Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 31, 2018 Posted October 31, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, Khota said: Just give me a list of all the allrounders India has produced. I kow so little about this. I wasnt only talking about indian all rounders Edited October 31, 2018 by Ankit_sharma03
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 31, 2018 Posted October 31, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, Khota said: So you do feel that he is not fit to do his full quota of overs. Power hitting means nothing to me. It is run I lookfor. This ..... i dnt have to go beyond this to tell u that u hve no understanding of LOI game.....and test matches u hve admit u dnt watch At 7 a player wnt get a lot of balls, so u need someone who can make max of what he gets .....not someone like rahane In era of 350 ur saying powerhitting doesnt matter Edited October 31, 2018 by Ankit_sharma03 philcric 1
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 31, 2018 Posted October 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Khota said: I agree he is better than some and bowling is a bonus. He is not a proper bowler and that is what I was trying to convey. we played jadeja for many years who was a proper bowler , gr8 fielder n cud bat (fraud in LOI) that failed in LOI the diff wud always be those 20-30 runs which is why good fielder gr8 running btw the wkts power hitting are essential key component of odi's UrmiSinhaRay 1
philcric Posted October 31, 2018 Posted October 31, 2018 7 hours ago, Khota said: India is the starting point. We will start a new thread for legspinners but currently we are discussing all rounders. List please. Two. Vinoo Mankad, Kapil Dev. Do you have a point to make? UrmiSinhaRay 1
SUMO Posted October 31, 2018 Posted October 31, 2018 Can pandya play innings like butler... Or even like yusuf pathan, he had 2 great hundreds at no.7 Switchblade and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1
Global.Baba Posted October 31, 2018 Posted October 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, SUMO said: Can pandya play innings like butler... Or even like yusuf pathan, he had 2 great hundreds at no.7 Pandya is not even remotely close to Butler. However he is more useful than Yuseless Pathan with the ball and obviously as a fielder it is a no contest.
Khota Posted October 31, 2018 Posted October 31, 2018 6 hours ago, express bowling said: Chronologically ... Vinoo Mankad Kapil Dev Ravi Shastri Manoj Prabhakar Sourav Ganguly ( ODIs only ) Irfan Pathan Hardik Pandya Vinoo Mankad - Heard about it. Kapil Dev - Yes Ravi Shastri - You cannot be serious. Manoj Prabhakar - Must be kidding Saurav Ganguly - You are losing credibility Irfan Pathan - Now you have lost it Hardik Pandya - ????
Khota Posted October 31, 2018 Posted October 31, 2018 6 hours ago, philcric said: You wanted runs. Pandya got runs - 391 in 11 completed innings. Players batting at #7 are tailenders ? I did admit he is better than tailenders. What about his bowling- next you will prove he is better than other batsman. You end up proving nothing. Allrounders do not exist.
Khota Posted October 31, 2018 Posted October 31, 2018 5 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: This ..... i dnt have to go beyond this to tell u that u hve no understanding of LOI game.....and test matches u hve admit u dnt watch At 7 a player wnt get a lot of balls, so u need someone who can make max of what he gets .....not someone like rahane In era of 350 ur saying powerhitting doesnt matter Go re-read what I said. I never said power hitting does not matter.
Khota Posted October 31, 2018 Posted October 31, 2018 5 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: we played jadeja for many years who was a proper bowler , gr8 fielder n cud bat (fraud in LOI) that failed in LOI the diff wud always be those 20-30 runs which is why good fielder gr8 running btw the wkts power hitting are essential key component of odi's Good fielding and running between the wkts is a must for everyone. pandya can hit some, my concern is hid bowling. He is not the fifth option.
Khota Posted October 31, 2018 Posted October 31, 2018 2 hours ago, philcric said: Two. Vinoo Mankad, Kapil Dev. Do you have a point to make? You just made it for me. Thanks!
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 31, 2018 Posted October 31, 2018 6 minutes ago, Khota said: Good fielding and running between the wkts is a must for everyone. pandya can hit some, my concern is hid bowling. He is not the fifth option. In odi he can jst play for his s/r only 1st to hide his bowling then again ur facts are wrong coz he has very decent economy and check some high scoring games where he came n bowled really tight Check games in SA t20 games in eng infact a game against SL in Indore to , he came n bowled vey tight n got wkts to and those were other bowlers were going for a lot of runs. Why do u hve to hide someone with 5.5 eco....thats absolutely fine UrmiSinhaRay 1
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 31, 2018 Posted October 31, 2018 12 minutes ago, Khota said: Go re-read what I said. I never said power hitting does not matter. ye dekh tu hi to bola Powerhitting means nothing to me 12 hours ago, Khota said: Power hitting means nothing to me. It is run I lookfor.
Khota Posted October 31, 2018 Posted October 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: In odi he can jst play for his s/r only 1st to hide his bowling then again ur facts are wrong coz he has very decent economy and check some high scoring games where he came n bowled really tight Check games in SA t20 games in eng infact a game against SL in Indore to , he came n bowled vey tight n got wkts to and those were other bowlers were going for a lot of runs. Why do u hve to hide someone with 5.5 eco....thats absolutely fine If he can do all that you say then there is nothing more to ask for. Time and again with five bowlers his numbers are the worst.
Khota Posted October 31, 2018 Posted October 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: ye dekh tu hi to bola Powerhitting means nothing to me There is a difference. If you hit a six and are out the next ball you have done nothing for the team. In the end you do need to put runs on the board with the fewest balls played.
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 31, 2018 Posted October 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, Khota said: If he can do all that you say then there is nothing more to ask for. Time and again with five bowlers his numbers are the worst. nope his numbers are not the worst his eco is better then umesh and same as shami, so hows it worse bhuvi s/r is worse then him, so hows it worse What numbers are u talking about .....care to show
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 31, 2018 Posted October 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, Khota said: There is a difference. If you hit a six and are out the next ball you have done nothing for the team. In the end you do need to put runs on the board with the fewest balls played. that was afridi Pandya has played some really good knocks in ODi n no he is not a one hit wonder , at 7 he avg way higher then many in past as i wud have shown u the stats SO next time dnt go with ur myths Show me the numbers
Khota Posted October 31, 2018 Posted October 31, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: nope his numbers are not the worst his eco is better then umesh and same as shami, so hows it worse bhuvi s/r is worse then him, so hows it worse What numbers are u talking about .....care to show Like I said he is better than tailenders. 11 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: that was afridi Pandya has played some really good knocks in ODi n no he is not a one hit wonder , at 7 he avg way higher then many in past as i wud have shown u the stats SO next time dnt go with ur myths Show me the numbers Go look at the numbers for any series. there is no consistency. Edited October 31, 2018 by Khota
ShoonyaSifar Posted October 31, 2018 Posted October 31, 2018 Exactly who has got the accountability to groom seam bowlers who can bat decently? Should the selectors not be taking a lead to identify critical needs of the national side, prepare a plan and coordinate with NCA and state academies. Or are these bojos just to sign on dotted lines as told by Kohli-Shastri? UrmiSinhaRay 1
philcric Posted October 31, 2018 Posted October 31, 2018 43 minutes ago, Khota said: You just made it for me. Thanks! err, no. There's nothing to make it for you. You lack credibility to debate and discuss. You either go on tangents or give ridiculous excuses to not answer fairly logical and objective questions, when it doesn't suit you.
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