randomGuy Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, coffee_rules said: Why only Chennai, most Indian cities will run out of water in the next ten years, if we don't link rivers or have measures of rain water harvesting or desalination plants. Where I lived in Delhi, you don't even need a filter, forget an RO. Water which comes to homes in this area from treatment plants happens to be clean. But I know this is not the situation even in 5% (true even for Delhi) of the country having lived in various places/cities. This should be the situation in 100% of the country because water is very very crucial. Water is the lifeline. The other lifeline is air. Air quality is even worse. Actually India has several great things in terms of living experience but air and water was very basic. Need MASSIVE improvement all across the country. Should be no. 1 priority in today's age. Edited May 30, 2019 by randomGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 India currently uses 645 cubic kms of fresh water per year. And we don't use enough of it for our people ( in terms of how many are forced to go without shower etc coz of water scarcity). Per capita we use about 585 cubic meters of water. USA uses 1600. So to get to USA's level, we are going to need to increase our water consumption by 2.75 times. Which yeilds around 1775 cubic kms of water. Now, india recieves approximately 1200 mm of rainfall across the country per annum, which yeilds about 3840 cubic kilometer of water per annum. We need to increase our consumption by 1130 cubic km, aka capture around 29-30% of the monsoon rains. River linking is a big part of it, since whatever water does not replenish ground systems or evaporate, ultimately ends up in the rivers most of the time. in this respect, NE India + Bengal will be critical for the entire country. NE recieves an average of 3800 mm of rain, ie, more than three times the rest of the nation. This means that out of 3840 cubic kilometers of water deposited on India per year, NE + Bengal gets 1330 cubic kilometers of water alone. Ie, 11% of the country by surface area receives 35% of the water. Linking rivers and harvesting rainwater from this region will not only help in the flood control situation of these regions ( plus Bangladesh), it will go a long way to end the water security threat in India. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Muloghonto said: India currently uses 645 cubic kms of fresh water per year. And we don't use enough of it for our people ( in terms of how many are forced to go without shower etc coz of water scarcity). Per capita we use about 585 cubic meters of water. USA uses 1600. So to get to USA's level, we are going to need to increase our water consumption by 2.75 times. Which yeilds around 1775 cubic kms of water. Now, india recieves approximately 1200 mm of rainfall across the country per annum, which yeilds about 3840 cubic kilometer of water per annum. We need to increase our consumption by 1130 cubic km, aka capture around 29-30% of the monsoon rains. River linking is a big part of it, since whatever water does not replenish ground systems or evaporate, ultimately ends up in the rivers most of the time. in this respect, NE India + Bengal will be critical for the entire country. NE recieves an average of 3800 mm of rain, ie, more than three times the rest of the nation. This means that out of 3840 cubic kilometers of water deposited on India per year, NE + Bengal gets 1330 cubic kilometers of water alone. Ie, 11% of the country by surface area receives 35% of the water. Linking rivers and harvesting rainwater from this region will not only help in the flood control situation of these regions ( plus Bangladesh), it will go a long way to end the water security threat in India. Why not invest in cheap desalination plants near the delta outflow area instead. Looks a permanent solution than the ecological nightmare of dams. Only need is power that has tobcome from thorium reactors. Hope they get the advanced hwr operational. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 Just now, Vilander said: Why not invest in cheap desalination plants near the delta outflow area instead. Looks a permanent solution than the ecological nightmare of dams. Only need is power that has tobcome from thorium reactors. Hope they get the advanced hwr operational. Because there is no such thing as a cheap desalination plant. In energy usage, desalination is one of the most energy hungry industrial processes known to mankind. Thorium reactor is a pipe dream. Sure, if it pans out in the future, we can halt the river linking project. But until it happens, we should look towards what is a proven technology - linking the rivers via canals and constructing reservoirs/dams etc. for water usage. We should still go through with river linking project because it will solve our 'floods in some parts and droughts in some parts' double whammy every damn year. Desalination plants do not solve the flood problem, river linkage does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 Chennai, your water woes will get over soon, thanks for not voting to NDA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 1 hour ago, coffee_rules said: Chennai, your water woes will get over soon, thanks for not voting to NDA. civic amenities are not out of gratitude, its based on tax income. Chennai will get what it is allotted to get, no one is doing any charity here. coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Muloghonto said: Because there is no such thing as a cheap desalination plant. In energy usage, desalination is one of the most energy hungry industrial processes known to mankind. Thorium reactor is a pipe dream. lol too many absolutes. very weak mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 3 hours ago, Vilander said: lol too many absolutes. very weak mind. Facts are absolutes. It is not weak-minded to say that desalination is more energy intensive than making rubber. Its a bloody fact. You keep thinking along lines of weak or strong mind, leave the actual problem solving to the ones who are willing to do what works in real life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackMamba Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 11 hours ago, coffee_rules said: Why only Chennai, most Indian cities will run out of water in the next ten years, if we don't link rivers or have measures of rain water harvesting or desalination plants. Yup the moment he digs a canal to connect Godavari with Cauvery, the left brigade, - liberals lwill pick up sickles and swords to come after Modi. These leftists are most self-centric idiots, with no juice in their brain cells to think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_B_ Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 Inida needs to investment in sewage recycling plants. 14 hours ago, coffee_rules said: Chennai, your water woes will get over soon, thanks for not voting to NDA. hmm i doubt this will be enough.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 8 hours ago, Muloghonto said: Facts are absolutes. It is not weak-minded to say that desalination is more energy intensive than making rubber. Its a bloody fact. You keep thinking along lines of weak or strong mind, leave the actual problem solving to the ones who are willing to do what works in real life. One of the most energy hungry known to man then a thorium plant being a pipe dream dude, go read plan litrature for Indias three stage nuke reactor development the whole thing is geared towards ahwr's. Very bombastic with no substance, i used to be impressed witu your quotes on history and context that you could bring out. Throughly disappointed in your recent low iq posts in most subjects either you replaced an earlier learned poster or you have progressively got polluted with arguments that you have in icf. Just use facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 2 hours ago, Vilander said: One of the most energy hungry known to man then a thorium plant being a pipe dream dude, go read plan litrature for Indias three stage nuke reactor development the whole thing is geared towards ahwr's. Its not ready. I have read the literature. When its ready and proven tech, we can talk. Till then, we are not going to wait around on a pipe dream. 2 hours ago, Vilander said: Very bombastic with no substance, i used to be impressed witu your quotes on history and context that you could bring out. Throughly disappointed in your recent low iq posts in most subjects either you replaced an earlier learned poster or you have progressively got polluted with arguments that you have in icf. Just use facts. Pfft. The guy who's main criticism of river linkage project, via proven tech, to solve India's water problem, is to wait around for Thorium reactors to work is calling others low IQ. Funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 17 minutes ago, Muloghonto said: The guy who's main criticism of river linkage project you have some issues - meaning its something else not related to IQ etc. show me where i have criticised river linkage project ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 20 minutes ago, Vilander said: you have some issues - meaning its something else not related to IQ etc. show me where i have criticised river linkage project ? LOL. When you bring up thorium reactor ( fictional tech as of now) as a response to RL project and its musings, then get abusive, its not fooling anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 1 1 minute ago, Muloghonto said: LOL. When you bring up thorium reactor ( fictional tech as of now) as a response to RL project and its musings, then get abusive, its not fooling anyone. ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vice Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 Great idea to have desalination plants and rain harvesting to have along the coastline. It would be a boom for the economy as well as help to the common people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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