Real McCoy Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 12 hours ago, Khota said: It seems you are the one getting worked up since you responded to your own post 3 hours ago, Khota said: Since when has most posters replaced sound scientific reasoning? 17 hours ago, Khota said: What do you guys think? No stats to back it up but uses the fancy term "scientific reasoning" prefaced with the topic heading shown above. Asking a question is asking others to give their opinion and opinions are not facts. Thereby I question your "scientific reasoning" raki05 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Would it be fair to say Khota has outdumbed himself? Ankit_sharma03 and Real McCoy 2 Link to comment
raki05 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 16 hours ago, Khota said: The insecurity of this poster is real. If Ashwin is better he will get more wkts. Why are you so insecure? Every match? Isn't it true for Kohli ,Pujara and Mayank also, if they are better they should have scored more than Umesh. Real McCoy 1 Link to comment
Khota Posted October 22, 2019 Author Share Posted October 22, 2019 1 hour ago, raki05 said: Every match? Isn't it true for Kohli ,Pujara and Mayank also, if they are better they should have scored more than Umesh. The point I am driving home is that thisone test is not an anamoly. Nadeem along with half a dozen others can out prrform Ashwin. Link to comment
Khota Posted October 22, 2019 Author Share Posted October 22, 2019 2 hours ago, rkt.india said: Would it be fair to say Khota has outdumbed himself? Would it be fair to say so many posters are biased and overlook other talent? Link to comment
Khota Posted October 22, 2019 Author Share Posted October 22, 2019 6 hours ago, gakgupta said: yes..he was better than ashwin and also jadeja... I feel the management is slowly sidelining Ashwin...somehow, i got this feeling after this match... If this is so, then its a huge mistake... Ashwin is no:1 spinner in the world and only improved in last 3 to 4 years.. He is not no. 1 in India. That does not make him no 1 in the world. Link to comment
Khota Posted October 22, 2019 Author Share Posted October 22, 2019 5 hours ago, Real McCoy said: It seems you are the one getting worked up since you responded to your own post No stats to back it up but uses the fancy term "scientific reasoning" prefaced with the topic heading shown above. Asking a question is asking others to give their opinion and opinions are not facts. Thereby I question your "scientific reasoning" Nadeem almost half the overs and twice the wkts. I would say he is better. Link to comment
Khota Posted October 22, 2019 Author Share Posted October 22, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, raki05 said: Every match? Isn't it true for Kohli ,Pujara and Mayank also, if they are better they should have scored more than Umesh. This will be more like a trend if Nadeem gets an opportunity. Edited October 22, 2019 by Khota Link to comment
Khota Posted October 22, 2019 Author Share Posted October 22, 2019 The sad thing is before the first ball was bowled I was about to start a thread stating that Nadeem will outperform Ashwin. I never got around to it. beetle 1 Link to comment
raki05 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 10 minutes ago, Khota said: The point I am driving home is that thisone test is not an anamoly. Nadeem along with half a dozen others can out prrform Ashwin. That's just your assumption not even potentially true as the other person whom you are talking about is fastest to reach 350 wickets. Now have you said they can perform better than him would have still not make sense but it had potential. Link to comment
raki05 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, Khota said: This will be more like a trend if Nadeem gets an opportunity. Than it would be awesome I want him to perform as well but more in overseas test coz in home test Ashwin and jadega are real beast. Link to comment
Khota Posted October 22, 2019 Author Share Posted October 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, raki05 said: Than it would be awesome I want him to perform as well but more in overseas test coz in home test Ashwin and jadega are real beast. Atleast you are open minded and I applaud that. As far as home conditions are concerned I think there are 5 better than Ashwin. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 12 minutes ago, Khota said: Nadeem almost half the overs and twice the wkts. I would say he is better. atleast let me him play 50% of what ashwin has played u dnt get 350+ wkts in record number of time like that easily..... if one games starts to decide better bowler well as i shown above sehwag, yuvi outbowled bhajji many times. It isnt that in that one game also he ran through the batting lineup..... If someone has to make a headline for this game it shud be seamers outbowls spinner or better seamers didnt leave much for spinners Link to comment
Khota Posted October 22, 2019 Author Share Posted October 22, 2019 Bowler A: Fewer overs, x4 more wkts, better economy. Bowler B: x2 more overs, 1/4th wkts, worse economy. Who is better? Conventional wisdom: Bowler A ICF experts: Bowler B Bowler B is Ashwin and Bowler B is Nadeem. I am sitting and laughing. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Khota said: Atleast you are open minded and I applaud that. As far as home conditions are concerned I think there are 5 better than Ashwin. u cant even name those 5 yet no ones domestic record comes close to his international record Link to comment
Khota Posted October 22, 2019 Author Share Posted October 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: atleast let me him play 50% of what ashwin has played u dnt get 350+ wkts in record number of time like that easily..... if one games starts to decide better bowler well as i shown above sehwag, yuvi outbowled bhajji many times. It isnt that in that one game also he ran through the batting lineup..... If someone has to make a headline for this game it shud be seamers outbowls spinner or better seamers didnt leave much for spinners Planets were aligned for him properly. Your arguments are just that, arguements. Link to comment
Khota Posted October 22, 2019 Author Share Posted October 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: u cant even name those 5 yet no ones domestic record comes close to his international record You just saw one. I was confident enough that he will outperform Ashwin before the first ball was on. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Just now, Khota said: Bowler A: Fewer overs, x4 more wkts, better economy. Bowler B: x2 more overs, 1/4th wkts, worse economy. Who is better? Conventional wisdom: Bowler A ICF experts: Bowler B Bowler B is Ashwin and Bowler B is Nadeem. I am sitting and laughing. BOWLING O M R W ECON WD NB JN Gillespie 15 1 47 0 3.13 0 0 NM Hauritz 22 4 87 2 3.95 0 0 GD McGrath 12 6 29 2 2.41 0 0 MS Kasprowicz 13 5 29 0 2.23 0 0 MJ Clarke 6.2 0 9 6 1.42 0 0 BOWLING O M R W ECON WD NB Z Khan 6 0 10 1 1.66 0 1 Harbhajan Singh 21 4 53 0 2.52 0 0 A Kumble 19 0 90 5 4.73 0 0 M Kartik 15.3 1 44 4 2.83 0 3 By ur logic- michael clarke was a better bowler then - kumble , bhajji, kartik Vilander 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Khota said: Planets were aligned for him properly. Your arguments are just that, arguements. so 350+ wkts are taken by planet alignment more then line n length alignement yea my argument is record, what else does matter Link to comment
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