Young upcoming fast bowlers thread.

[rkt.india]

9 minutes ago, Sgattick10 said:

Why not also have a upcoming spin bowler thread 

You can make that.

[Suhaan]

Wierd conclusion by quoting speeds clocked in FC and stating it in midst of T20 conversation

Arshdeep certainly has increased his pace if you see him this IPL,

Im certain about a poster here who would have given same speed figures for Umran had he not played this IPL based on YT videos,it happens to be true in both senses,a said uncapped bowler may bowl faster than your assumption or he may bowl at lesser speeds than what you claimed

Akash was never branded as such, offcourse some may have said he looks like a 140+ bowler ,but it doesn't mean all of us have claimed that way

And Akash hasn't finished yet,he will certainly bowl much quicker than today

Infact most of us even today don't give hyperbolic speed assumptions for uncapped players

[Sgattick10]

3 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

You can make that.

Not much of an expert or regular watcher. We hve a dearth of good spinners 

[Suhaan]

7 minutes ago, Mesky99 said:

 

And he even undakat would look quick from a certain angle, Nikhil kohli's basics are all over the place with a non fluent run up, all these under 23 bowlers look quick in these clips, pitches in CK nayudu are bowling friendly and most of these matches are played in tier 3/4 grounds. Harishankar Reddy in some of his videos looks express too but in reality that ain't the case.

Anything to prove your illogical point,huh?

[rkt.india]

16 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

Wierd conclusion by quoting speeds clocked in FC and stating it in midst of T20 conversation

Arshdeep certainly has increased his pace if you see him this IPL,

Im certain about a poster here who would have given same speed figures for Umran had he not played this IPL based on YT videos,it happens to be true in both senses,a said uncapped bowler may bowl faster than your assumption or he may bowl at lesser speeds than what you claimed

Akash was never branded as such, offcourse some may have said he looks like a 140+ bowler ,but it doesn't mean all of us have claimed that way

And Akash hasn't finished yet,he will certainly bowl much quicker than today

Infact most of us even today don't give hyperbolic speed assumptions for uncapped players

Akash has hit 140 on occasions. An 18-19 year old hitting low 140s even if occasionally isn't bad by any means.

Edited November 8, 2021 by rkt.india

[rkt.india]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CPdgTO4gdgi/?utm_medium=copy_link

 

Rajasthan Royals have their own u19 squad. Ashok Pradhan is one of them.

Edited November 8, 2021 by rkt.india

[Mesky99]

58 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Sushant and Arjun Tendulkar are the best left prospect right now. Khaleel is also improving. Arjun will take time but will eventually get there. He is a hard worker. A left arm fast bowler must have inswing against right handers. Both Sushant and Arjun have that. Akash is young and is a good prospect too. Has touched 140 on occasions. 

How do you rate a seamer? What credidentials does akash have? He ain't even good enough right now to make the Rajasthan team, Aniket chowdoury plays ahead of him, akash runs in well and as some intensity but I highly doubt he would be good enough for international cricket, the likes of irfan Pathan, rp Singh and nehra were playing for India aged 20/21 and they were a lot superior compared to the likes of arshdeep, akash etc but at the end all three failed at the higher level and only in glimpses did well, none of these young pacers have even set domestic cricket on fire bar siraj. We have to be realistic, the reason I pointed out Sushant was because he puts in a lot of effort and has been quite successful hitting the pitch hard, sadly he ain't tall enough.

 

 

 

 

[Jay]

Tbf even boomrah was only bowling 133-137 when he debuted for MI.

He developed after the first year. 

[rkt.india]

4 minutes ago, Mesky99 said:

How do you rate a seamer? What credidentials does akash have? He ain't even good enough right now to make the Rajasthan team, Aniket chowdoury plays ahead of him, akash runs in well and as some intensity but I highly doubt he would be good enough for international cricket, the likes of irfan Pathan, rp Singh and nehra were playing for India aged 20/21 and they were a lot superior compared to the likes of arshdeep, akash etc but at the end all three failed at the higher level and only in glimpses did well, none of these young pacers have even set domestic cricket on fire bar siraj. We have to be realistic, the reason I pointed out Sushant was because he puts in a lot of effort and has been quite successful hitting the pitch hard, sadly he ain't tall enough.

 

 

 

 

Not everyone will make domestic cricket on fire at 19. Siraj had barely played much cricket till 19. He came into fore very late. Aniket is preferred because of experience. He is an average bowler and will soon make way for new generation. Akash will get his chances in VH trophy and Ranji trophy. Akash too gets inswing going. 

[rkt.india]

1 minute ago, Jay said:

Tbf even boomrah was only bowling 133-137 when he debuted for MI.

He developed after the first year. 

Yes. 

[Jay]

11 minutes ago, Mesky99 said:

How do you rate a seamer? What credidentials does akash have? He ain't even good enough right now to make the Rajasthan team, Aniket chowdoury plays ahead of him, akash runs in well and as some intensity but I highly doubt he would be good enough for international cricket, the likes of irfan Pathan, rp Singh and nehra were playing for India aged 20/21 and they were a lot superior compared to the likes of arshdeep, akash etc but at the end all three failed at the higher level and only in glimpses did well, none of these young pacers have even set domestic cricket on fire bar siraj. We have to be realistic, the reason I pointed out Sushant was because he puts in a lot of effort and has been quite successful hitting the pitch hard, sadly he ain't tall enough.

 

 

 

 

You need patience with young ins bro. Give them one season to develop. 

[Suhaan]

56 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Akash has hit 140 on occasions. An 18-19 year old hitting low 140s even if occasionally isn't bad by any means.

I don't doubt his ability to bowl 140s,yes i saw him bowl a couple at u19,even in IPL his sample size is too too small ,he will surely develop

But i was talking about a certain poster who was quoting some of here about predicting Akash as 140+ bowler when he wasn't in his first season in IPL and was generalizing things here and very conveniently saying it for all uncapped pacers based on YT clips

[Mesky99]

1 hour ago, Suhaan said:

Anything to prove your illogical point,huh?

How is it illogical? Watch nikhil's landing carefully, observe his non braced front leg, he looses all his little momentum just before release due his jump, he does not even jump forward and slows down before his jump, his action is all over the place, with these basics in play no one is going to bowl above 140kph let alone express pace, it will be clear when Nikhil plays a televised domestic game, he ain't express. That is far stretched 

[rkt.india]

4 minutes ago, Mesky99 said:

How is it illogical? Watch nikhil's landing carefully, observe his non braced front leg, he looses all his little momentum just before release due his jump, he does not even jump forward and slows down before his jump, his action is all over the place, with these basics in play no one is going to bowl above 140kph let alone express pace, it will be clear when Nikhil plays a televised domestic game, he ain't express. That is far stretched 

Action and run-up are one thing, look at the deliveries. He is a knee dominant bowler. Run-up isn't that important for all such bowlers. Some of them can generate pace without proper run-up.  Their pace comes from longer backfoot contact utilising muscle power.  Not all bowlers generate pace same way. Look at Shaun Tait. He would just jog in and hit 145+. Another knee dominant bowler.

[Mesky99]

Am pretty sure Nikhil kohli ain't express but this young lad yashraj malap is very impressive, great energy to the crease. 

 

[Suhaan]

1 hour ago, Mesky99 said:

How is it illogical? Watch nikhil's landing carefully, observe his non braced front leg, he looses all his little momentum just before release due his jump, he does not even jump forward and slows down before his jump, his action is all over the place, with these basics in play no one is going to bowl above 140kph let alone express pace, it will be clear when Nikhil plays a televised domestic game, he ain't express. That is far stretched 

The things which you have mentioned comes later in fast bowling,the foremost important thing is how you approach crease,action is determined by your lower body position and pace also depends on upper and lower body sync,preturn

How do you run to the crease,most bowlers run in fast in the beginning and loose it in their impulse stride these are basics and the most important aspect of fast bowling is fast twitch fibres

Braced front leg ,follow through all come in to play later

Nikhil has above all ,

So what if he doesn't have braced leg it isn't all even Akhter didn't have it,but he had basic things right

Nikhil may not be express but he's quick,maybe he is express we don't know untill he's clocked

If he's not slowing down before jumo means he's matching the last stride approach with his start or maybe he's putting in effort at the last moment

Problem occurs when you have a mismatch which i have mentioned above,you can't be at your peak pace or match your capability

[rkt.india]

2 hours ago, Mesky99 said:

Am pretty sure Nikhil kohli ain't express but this young lad yashraj malap is very impressive, great energy to the crease. 

 

I know about him for a long time now. Had posted about him long time back but he is obviously slower than Nikhil Kohli. He is short fast medium type bowler. Pace depends a lot on fast twitch fibers. Everything else is secondary and are added advantages. Some bowlers can generate pace effortlessly like Archer, Umesh in his younger days. 

[Suhaan]

There was a Goan pacer named Rex @rkt.india
 you once mentioned about him,a story on Stephan Jones's insta,you said he was one of the fastest ,is he playing SMAT for Goa this season?

[rkt.india]

12 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

There was a Goan pacer named Rex @rkt.india
 you once mentioned about him,a story on Stephan Jones's insta,you said he was one of the fastest ,is he playing SMAT for Goa this season?

Craig Brendan. Not playing SMAT. 

[rkt.india]

https://youtu.be/jdYcZRz01AE

 

Umran Malik, 4 wicket haul.

Edited November 9, 2021 by rkt.india