zen Posted February 22, 2020 Posted February 22, 2020 Many fans underrate NZ as it does not have the depth on paper that some of the other teams possess. However, NZ cricket is not about depth (because of limited pool) but how its key players perform. If we go back to the 80s, NZ was among the top test sides. It was able to compete because its super-players raised their hand. For e.g.: View overall figures [change view] Primary team New Zealand Start of match date between 1 Jan 1985 and 1 Jan 1992 Qualifications wickets taken greater than or equal to 20 Ordered by bowling average (ascending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 7 of 7 First Previous Next Last Return to query menu Cleared query menu Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns Overs Mdns Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 5 10 Sir RJ Hadlee 1985-1990 36 59 1532.5 364 3985 196 9/52 15/123 20.33 2.59 46.9 18 5 EJ Chatfield 1985-1989 27 44 1100.4 340 2425 75 6/73 10/124 32.33 2.20 88.0 1 1 JG Bracewell 1985-1990 29 45 1012.5 252 2626 73 6/32 10/106 35.97 2.59 83.2 3 1 W Watson 1986-1991 9 15 398.0 109 1000 27 6/78 6/90 37.03 2.51 88.4 1 0 DK Morrison 1987-1991 22 35 749.1 134 2650 70 5/69 6/133 37.85 3.53 64.2 5 0 MC Snedden 1985-1990 15 23 512.5 122 1380 35 5/68 5/82 39.42 2.69 87.9 1 0 SL Boock 1985-1989 10 15 373.5 106 1030 20 5/117 5/84 51.50 2.75 112.1 1 View overall figures [change view] Primary team New Zealand Start of match date between 1 Jan 1985 and 1 Jan 1992 Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 1000 Ordered by batting average (descending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 7 of 7 First Previous Next Last Return to query menu Cleared query menu Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s MD Crowe 1985-1991 40 66 8 3391 299 58.46 7443 45.55 12 12 3 399 8 AH Jones 1987-1991 20 36 5 1703 186 54.93 4213 40.42 5 6 1 134 8 JV Coney 1985-1987 19 29 5 1041 111* 43.37 2230 46.68 2 5 0 102 3 MJ Greatbatch 1988-1991 19 31 5 1105 146* 42.50 3133 35.26 2 5 1 123 2 JG Wright 1985-1991 40 73 4 2907 185 42.13 7722 37.64 7 14 3 341 7 Sir RJ Hadlee 1985-1990 36 49 8 1304 151* 31.80 2495 52.26 1 6 3 141 13 IDS Smith 1985-1991 43 59 10 1265 173 25.81 1941 65.17 1 6 4 163 5 As we can see above, it is basically a Hadlee-Crowe team. With Jones also supporting Crowe in batting. Others chipped in here and there. But NZ 's super players are so good that they can make their team competitive even when playing against the best teams like the WI of 80s. Hadlee is probably the biggest match winner in tests, while Crowe was the best averaging batsman among those with 2k or more runs in the above period. The performance of super players is one of the NZ's secret of success. In tests, if one of your batsmen gets a big score and if one of the bowlers gets bucket load of wkts, the team is set. Which is one of the reasons, I put NZ AT11 in the top half along with WI, Aus and SA. On paper, they may lack depth (underrated) but it is their super players that can make the difference. Hadlee-Bond-Crowe-Williamson-etc is what I look at. And you know these guys are going to step it up "big time" to cover for any lack of depth. On the other hand, Ind's (and also Pak's) super players can disappoint even though the team can look good on paper. Many times, ppl complain about "a lack of support", when it is relatively much better. We also focus on fringe players. If Ind has to do well on consistent basis away , the super players would need to step up big time. In the series against Aus, we saw Pujara step up. In Pak, we saw Sehwag do it. In WI, we saw Gavaskar do it. We need more such performances on a consistent basis by our key players! diehardpacer 1
zen Posted February 23, 2020 Author Posted February 23, 2020 In this test too, key players Williamson got an 80 odd and Boult cleaned out Pujara and Kohli, the two best test batsmen
SrinjayDutta Posted February 23, 2020 Posted February 23, 2020 Nz plays with character, but their players are not extraordinary barring williamson, Taylor and boult. India's players are definitely more talented, but gutless. Just intelligent bowling with correct field setting has brought them wickets today. zen 1
Deleted_User_1 Posted February 23, 2020 Posted February 23, 2020 (edited) NZ has always been a team of few talents, but the talented ones have put their hand up and done their done their job. From Glenn Turner in the 1970s, Hadlee in 70/80s, Martin Crowe during 80s/90s, Shane Bond in the 2000s, they have had some quality players. Heck, India won in NZ in mid 70s with just spin and this Bewda/Chokohli led team! Edited February 23, 2020 by Audiophile zen 1
cricketpitch Posted February 23, 2020 Posted February 23, 2020 (edited) Key to success is playing at home like all the other teams in the recent past. If this series was in India they would have struggled as well. India has been extremely poor and NZ have just done what they do best at home. Nothing to look here. They have always been a good side at home and someone who are a difficult team to beat in their own conditions. Edited February 23, 2020 by cricketpitch Cricket_Fan 1
Cricket_Fan Posted February 23, 2020 Posted February 23, 2020 55 minutes ago, cricketpitch said: Key to success is playing at home like all the other teams in the recent past. If this series was in India they would have struggled as well. India has been extremely poor and NZ have just done what they do best at home. Nothing to look here. They have always been a good side at home and someone who are a difficult team to beat in their own conditions. Finally someone gets it. They got thrashed in Australia few weeks back and even lost a Test in Srilanka who are practically minnows now. Now, they’re playing at home. Let them win some series outside their home and then we can hype them up.
Vilander Posted February 24, 2020 Posted February 24, 2020 Won toss. All margin calls went their way. Slow bowlers suited to the condition. Luck. Patience. Skill and execution.
Adi_91 Posted February 24, 2020 Posted February 24, 2020 Off late, their keys to success has been to play India. diehardpacer 1
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