rkt.india Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 4 hours ago, The Dark Horse said: Problem is it takes 7 to 14 days for it to get detected. Which means if your immune system is strong, there's no problem but likely to pass it on to someone with less immunity/kids/elders. It is mostly affecting 30+. Kids are safer than older people. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 1 hour ago, ganeshran said: This is plain wrong. The growth rate of the cases is exponential. It can spread very very quickly. USA had 15 cases just a week or so back. today it crossed 1000 The only unknown is the spread of the virus in the heat. We dont know whether it will die down because of the heat. Lets hope it does but prepare for the worst case scenario either way Mortality rate is 3%. Most of the affected people have recovered. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 5 hours ago, Lannister said: https://www.deccanherald.com/amp/national/coronavirus-wont-disappear-like-the-flu-in-summer-who-812613.html?__twitter_impression=true Coronavirus won't disappear like the flu in summer: WHO Did you even read it? Nothing is confirmed yet but there is no reason to believe it won't die due to heat like other influenza viruses. Link to comment
Khota Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 14 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Mortality rate is 3%. Most of the affected people have recovered. That is x30 of flu. Extremely high. R0 is 2.5, this is some deadly crap. Link to comment
Khota Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Do it like LaLiga. Play it in empty stadiums. Link to comment
Zero_Unit Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 India is very crowded, how does one stop corona type of virus when millions are walking almost shoulder to shoulder on the street, taking the bus, train, etc. Cricket matches might be the last concern in this type of situation. This is one of those double edge swordish situation - to stop spreading it, stop all activity and stay home and let the economy crumble or go do your thing, do what's necessary to stay safe. Can't have it both ways. Sgattick10 1 Link to comment
The Dark Horse Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 27 minutes ago, Zero_Unit said: India is very crowded, how does one stop corona type of virus when millions are walking almost shoulder to shoulder on the street, taking the bus, train, etc. Cricket matches might be the last concern in this type of situation. This is one of those double edge swordish situation - to stop spreading it, stop all activity and stay home and let the economy crumble or go do your thing, do what's necessary to stay safe. Can't have it both ways. People have to do what they do to earn money, but going to stadiums, movies, functions, etc. can be avoided at least for now as a precautionary measure. Link to comment
cowboysfan Posted March 11, 2020 Author Share Posted March 11, 2020 4 hours ago, Malcolm Merlyn said: More people travel on local trains in mumbai than those who attend a cricket match. The OP has little idea about India. Sent from my HD1901 using Tapatalk those people have no choice.people from all over the country come to watch the cricket match,if some of them catch the virus then we are making it easier for it to spread it all over country when those people go home. ganeshran 1 Link to comment
The Dark Horse Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 49 minutes ago, rkt.india said: It is mostly affecting 30+. Kids are safer than older people. In the link I posted above, among the three affected recently in Kerala are a 3 year old and the rest 2 are 80+. Link to comment
ganeshran Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 1 hour ago, rkt.india said: Mortality rate is 3%. Most of the affected people have recovered. 3% is massive for a virus which spreads this quickly ( Even 1-2% is huge for a disease which could impact millions). It also risks overwhelming the medical system with not enough isolation wards or ICU beds available. In a developing country without social safety net, people will go to work and end up spreading the virus everywhere. The hot weather is pretty much the only hope right now Link to comment
R!TTER Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 43 minutes ago, ganeshran said: 3% is massive for a virus which spreads this quickly ( Even 1-2% is huge for a disease which could impact millions). It also risks overwhelming the medical system with not enough isolation wards or ICU beds available. In a developing country without social safety net, people will go to work and end up spreading the virus everywhere. The hot weather is pretty much the only hope right now Yeah like I said the ignorance about this is astounding, especially in India It might slow down the spread but as many have said before, there's no indication nCoV spread will be affected by Summer or even moderately high temps. The Dark Horse and ganeshran 2 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 18 minutes ago, R!TTER said: Yeah like I said the ignorance about this is astounding, especially in India It might slow down the spread but as many have said before, there's no indication nCoV spread will be affected by Summer or even moderately high temps. There is also no evidence it won't in heat if you see previous record of such viruses. Link to comment
mani sha Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 7 hours ago, Lannister said: https://www.deccanherald.com/amp/national/coronavirus-wont-disappear-like-the-flu-in-summer-who-812613.html?__twitter_impression=true Coronavirus won't disappear like the flu in summer: WHO Virus mutate with positive and negative mutations I will be surprised if it is there in summer . It will never go away but we will all have some baseline herd immunity ... right now we lack that The Who is right . Summer in one hemisphere is winter ❄️in some parts of another hemishpere . Stay calm . The fact that india is not affected is reassuring nevada 1 Link to comment
mani sha Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 7 hours ago, R!TTER said: You're forgetting Italy, Iran then? There's also no indication that the nCoV has heat as a potential deterrent in it's wake, so this rumor needs to die down! In fact, as temps grow the number of cases are also growing exponentially, though that may also have to do with infected patients spreading it across the globe. Yes, but as you know we can only count fatalities from the number of confirmed cases. In that sense DJT is right that the absolute fatality "might" be lower but then again are we counting patients who've died of nCoV & not been reported or detected? In that sense it's a slippery road, one thing is clear though it is more deadly than most strains of influenza & highly contagious! That's interesting (is it a feature of all influenza/CoV strains?) because this is what killed people the most in Spanish flu. I wasn't aware that nCoV is also leading to this, but possibly in lesser number or % of people than the disease that killed well over 50 million over a century back? Just to be clear it's a 2 part statement & I guess you probably being in medicine(?) would know a lot more about it's genealogy & lifecycle. Temperature in Tehran right now is 17 degree celcius mumbai it’s 30 degree Celsius - big difference it’s a virus like common cold hence anybody can get it . But seems to have low case fatality in general . But issue is it’s overwhelming my er ... if u have more people coming in for corona virus , regular services get disrupted . People don’t get seen for other conditions . Kids don’t get regular vaccines .. people delay getting a stress chest ... so in that sense health systems get overwhelmed and non corona case fatalities. Start increasing . the ct scans of all young health people in icu with corona virus show severe cytokine stems . antiretroviral drugs are helping Link to comment
R!TTER Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 38 minutes ago, rkt.india said: There is also no evidence it won't in heat if you see previous record of such viruses. The closest incident, representing the scale of this thing, is the "Spanish Flu" & why do I keep going back to that? Because it got much, much worse before it got better. SARS belongs to the same family of viruses but it's almost as if this was "engineered" to be nearly as deadly as SARS though much more virulent & contagious, kinda like influenza. Link to comment
R!TTER Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, mani sha said: Temperature in Tehran right now is 17 degree We're talking entire Iran which is affected, then Italy. You're also forgetting that India does have like 3-4 months of cold weather & can get really chilly even in the monsoon, so it's not like we get free immunity just because we're near the tropics. 10 minutes ago, mani sha said: the ct scans of all young health people in icu with corona virus show severe cytokine stems . antiretroviral drugs are helping That sounds somewhat assuring, although I will add that we have yet to see the full brunt of it in India. The issue in India isn't just nCoV, the air is so polluted that any potential infection may cause other respiratory illnesses like a cascade & we obviously have no way to stop that. I for one, am of the opinion that Indians are at just as much risk because of our (much more) polluted environment especially air! Link to comment
The Dark Horse Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 (edited) We Indians try to solve everything by broscience. I hope we approach this scientifically. Edited March 11, 2020 by The Dark Horse Link to comment
Zero_Unit Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 7 hours ago, The Dark Horse said: People have to do what they do to earn money, but going to stadiums, movies, functions, etc. can be avoided at least for now as a precautionary measure. I am all for that. I myself have been trying to not go out if it doesn't require me to, and I live in CAN. My POV was, in a place like India, cricket matches or no cricket matches, it will spread like wildfire due to population crisis. While we are on that subject, seems like Asia v world has been put on hold for now which is the right decision. I donno why India is going on with these meaningless bileteral series when there is a possible outbreak Link to comment
mani sha Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 6 hours ago, R!TTER said: We're talking entire Iran which is affected, then Italy. You're also forgetting that India does have like 3-4 months of cold weather & can get really chilly even in the monsoon, so it's not like we get free immunity just because we're near the tropics. That sounds somewhat assuring, although I will add that we have yet to see the full brunt of it in India. The issue in India isn't just nCoV, the air is so polluted that any potential infection may cause other respiratory illnesses like a cascade & we obviously have no way to stop that. I for one, am of the opinion that Indians are at just as much risk because of our (much more) polluted environment especially air! True about pollution adding to respiratory illness . As I speak first two cases in my hometown mumbai . And India closes down travel ... v v interesting response . Think it’s a good move yes colder areas in India at risk .. my gut though feels that it’s gonna be ok .the cohort of Italian travellers in India would have by now infected more people . praying for India as it’s gonna be very difficult if indeed the virus takes a liking for us Link to comment
cowboysfan Posted March 11, 2020 Author Share Posted March 11, 2020 Here in the US all college sports are to be played in empty stadiums ,i hope bcci atleast does the same to limit spreading the virus. Link to comment
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