Nikola Posted April 13, 2020 Author Posted April 13, 2020 12 minutes ago, velu said: he would murder bhuvi don't worry your favourite chahal will get him
zen Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 7 hours ago, Nikola said: I can quote you on public forum. Why don't you Ignore the thread? Immaturity on display here Rasgulla 1
Nikola Posted April 13, 2020 Author Posted April 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, zen said: Immaturity on display here Back again?
Rasgulla Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 Will take a handy allrounder over Tendiya anyday. Total team player Those hand picked stats don't mean anything.
Gollum Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 The strongest forearms in cricket, his short arm pulls had so much power. I remember how as kids we believed he had springs in his bat . His trump cards had the same demand as those of Sachin, Lara.... Even at this age looks like Popeye
Nikola Posted April 13, 2020 Author Posted April 13, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Gollum said: The strongest forearms in cricket, his short arm pulls had so much power. I remember how as kids we believed he had springs in his bat . His trump cards had the same demand as those of Sachin, Lara.... Even at this age looks like Popeye Nope, i won't be impressed till Sir Harsh Thakor writes big essay on how great he was. Edited April 13, 2020 by Nikola
zen Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Rasgulla said: Those hand picked stats don't mean anything. Novices playing around with cricinfo As for Jayasuriya, the article below captures many of elements of his role: Link "It is always a massive compliment to someone to say they changed the game, and his performance in the 1996 World Cup changed everyone's thinking about how to start an innings." Premier fast-bowler, Glenn McGrath had this to say about Sanath Jayasuriya when asked to list out the toughest batsmen he'd bowled to. To simply call Jayasuriya, a game-changer, would be a gross understatement. Jayasuriya didn't just change a game, he changed an ideology. Batting in ODI cricket, in the eighties and early nineties, followed a rehearsed pattern - Respect the new ball, conserve wickets, build a platform and then launch a late assault after the opposition bowlers had tired themselves out to a point where they longed to get back to the dressing room. Kiwi batsman, Mark Greatbatch broke this trend in 1992 with varied success. It wasn't until the mid-90s, did someone truly shake the established order. Just before the quadrennial event moved to the sub-continent in 1996, Sri Lanka experimented with an all-out attack approach in the first fifteen overs of fielding restriction (There was no separate batting powerplay then) during a series against Australia. Sanath Jayasuriya was then given the license to go berserk at the top of the order. And berserk he went! At a time when 60 runs was considered par at the 15-over mark, Sri Lanka got 117 against India, 123 versus Kenya and 121 against England in the quarter finals. Jayasuriya, in particular, was severe on anything fractionally short, and employed the cut and the pull to clear the infield. In a group game against India, chasing a steep 273, Jayasuriya and opening partner, Romesh Kaluwitharana, scored 42 runs of their first three overs. Such was the brutality of Jayasuriya's hitting that Indian medium-pacer, Manoj Prabhakar, resorted to bowling off-spinners in his second spell. In their next game, the southpaw tore into the Kenyan new-ball bowlers on his way to 44 off 27 and enabled Sri Lanka to post, the then world-record of 398 in their 50 overs. In Faisalabad for the quarter-final against England, Jayasuriya went one better. He blitzed his way to 82 off just 44 deliveries with 13 hits to the fence and 3 over it. By the time England realized what hit them, Sri Lanka had chased down 236 in 41 overs and had checked in to their hotel rooms in Kolkata for the semi-finals. Mohammad Azharuddin's decision to field first in the semifinals on an Eden Garden's surface that crumbled in the second-half of the match was perhaps the greatest testament to Jayasuriya's exploits in the '96 World Cup. Jayasuriya was dismissed in the very first over but came on to bowl and ended with figures of 3/12. There wasn't to be a Jayasuriya special against Australia in the final either. but he had done his bit with a wicket and a couple of catches as Sri Lanka completed a historic World Cup win. In six innings, Jayasuriya had aggregated 221 runs at an average of 36.83. Not lofty by any standards. But it wasn't the runs that mattered anymore. It was the way he got them. Striking at 131.54, Jayasuriya had softened the ball and the bowlers before Aravinda de Silva and Arjuna Ranatunga walked in. His contributions, however, didn't end with just terrorizing the opposition bowlers into submission. He doubled up as a useful bowler and a safe fielder, taking 7 wickets and 5 catches. He was named the player of the tournament and ODI cricket was never the same again. Edited April 13, 2020 by zen Rasgulla 1
rkt.india Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 20 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: if the game is played in Asia yes .....if outside asia ill consider my options Even for Asia, we have much better openers than him
rkt.india Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 (edited) 14 hours ago, Gollum said: That 2006 SL-Eng match was one of my favorites growing up, Lanka made a mockery of the huge target, that kind of hitting was unheard of back then...chasing 320+, they were going at 9rpo till the 32nd over. I have no doubt in my mind that had he been playing under these new ICC regulations and on these pattas, even 300 wouldn't be beyond him. That England bowling was pedestrian and pitch was absolute patta. Most countries have better bowling attack now than they had then. Also he thrived against trundlers, come genuine pacers he would struggle. Teams didn't have many genuine quick bowlers in 2000s like they have now. Every top side has multiple bowlers hitting 90 mph. Edited April 13, 2020 by rkt.india
rkt.india Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 13 hours ago, zen said: I followed most of my cricket in the 90s. I have not seen any batsman perform at such a dominating level in LOIs at his peak. Best performances in the 90s from what I recall (in no particular order): M Crowe in 92 WC Lara played many memorable knocks in his first 100 ODIs Jayasuriya at his peak starting with the 96 WC Tendulkar's Desert Storm innings Klusener in 99 WC Jausuriya could dominate on his day but he was inconsistent.
rkt.india Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 5 hours ago, Gollum said: He would have been a useful part timer, high IQ bowler. But as you said his batting would have become even more devastating, I guess 40 avg and 125 SR. ...Jason Roy on steroids with better spin playing ability. He was initially selected as a bowling all rounder, then more regarded for bowling. When he first came in the late 80s he would come in at #7 or #8, sometimes even lower. Only after 80-100 matches did the SL TM start using him as a top order batsman. Look at his stats from circa 1994 or '95. Likewise he carried on till too late, should have retired after the 2008 Asia Cup when he was already 39. Hence his overall stats have taken a beating, at his peak he wasn't 'too inconsistent' as you put it, for his high risk game he was pretty consistent. Of course Sanath or Viru are never going to have the consistency of Kohli or Rohit because of the way they approach the game, but in an all time XI which has plenty of great batsmen the idea is to maximize output during PP rather than going the Rohit way, because the MO won't be filled with Rayudus and Karthiks. Sanath won't be in my world XI because of Gilly, but in Asia XI I will have him partnering Sachin. Jausuriya didn't have an all-round game like Roy, so not sure. He was bottom handed preferred leg side and struggled against genuine pace.
rkt.india Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 3 hours ago, Jimmy Cliff said: Look at his record against India in the 90s: https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/49209.html?class=2;filter=advanced;opposition=6;orderby=default;spanmax1=31+Dec+1999;spanmin1=01+Jan+1990;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting Only had a couple of great years in 96 and 97. Otherwise was mostly ordinary. He was over rated because he could score 30 ball 50.
zen Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, rkt.india said: Jausuriya could dominate on his day but he was inconsistent. 1996-2011, he was better than other top SL batsmen w/ the bat and that too when trying to play impact knocks: View overall figures [change view] Primary team Sri Lanka Opposition team Australia or England or India or New Zealand or Pakistan or South Africa or Sri Lanka or West Indies Start of match date between 1 Jan 1996 and 1 Jan 2012 Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 2000 Ordered by batting average (descending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 10 of 10 First Previous Next Last Return to query menu Cleared query menu Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s PA de Silva 1996-2003 119 115 13 3717 134 36.44 4615 80.54 6 25 11 329 31 KC Sangakkara 2000-2011 243 230 20 7621 138* 36.29 10285 74.09 7 53 8 728 40 A Ranatunga 1996-1999 81 76 12 2282 131* 35.65 3036 75.16 2 13 9 184 18 MS Atapattu 1996-2007 218 213 19 6909 132* 35.61 10292 67.12 9 47 10 589 12 ST Jayasuriya 1996-2011 290 286 12 9584 189 34.97 10273 93.29 21 50 24 1098 195 DPMD Jayawardene 1998-2011 286 274 26 8189 144 33.02 10817 75.70 12 51 20 675 45 RP Arnold 1997-2007 147 134 34 3226 91* 32.26 4526 71.27 0 23 7 238 16 TM Dilshan 2000-2011 175 157 21 4312 160 31.70 5072 85.01 6 17 6 450 28 WU Tharanga 2005-2011 99 94 4 2836 120 31.51 4001 70.88 7 13 7 325 13 RS Kaluwitharana 1996-2004 135 132 8 3006 102* 24.24 3966 75.79 1 21 17 338 10 Among key high SR openers: View overall figures [change view] Opposition team Australia or England or India or New Zealand or Pakistan or South Africa or Sri Lanka or West Indies Start of match date between 1 Jan 1996 and 1 Jan 2012 Batting position between 1 and 3 Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 2000 and batting average greater than or equal to 34 Ordered by batting strike rate (descending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 27 of 27 First Previous Next Last Return to query menu Cleared query menu Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 V Sehwag (ICC/INDIA) 2001-2011 179 176 5 6267 219 36.64 6065 103.33 13 27 10 AC Gilchrist (AUS) 1997-2008 223 222 4 7699 154 35.31 7963 96.68 14 44 16 ST Jayasuriya (SL) 1996-2011 286 282 10 9509 189 34.95 10185 93.36 21 50 24 inning per 100 -> Sehwag 13.5, Gilly 15.9 , Jayasuriya 13.4 (lowest) 1 hour ago, rkt.india said: He was over rated because he could score 30 ball 50. a 30 ball 50 in an era when SL went at around 5 RPO is not bad at all! View overall figures [change view] Opposition team Australia or England or India or New Zealand or Pakistan or South Africa or Sri Lanka or West Indies Start of match date between 1 Jan 1996 and 1 Jan 2012 Totals in terms of batting team Ordered by win/loss ratio (descending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 21 of 21 First Previous Next Last Return to query menu Cleared query menu Overall figures Team Span Mat Won Lost Tied NR W/L Ave RPO Inns HS LS Australia 1996-2011 383 242 123 5 13 1.967 35.74 5.18 381 434 93 South Africa 1996-2011 326 197 114 5 10 1.728 33.82 4.97 324 438 83 Sri Lanka 1996-2011 359 172 169 3 15 1.017 29.31 4.89 353 411 78 Pakistan 1996-2011 367 175 183 1 8 0.956 28.93 4.86 367 371 75 India 1996-2011 439 199 211 2 27 0.943 32.03 5.10 430 418 54 Edited April 13, 2020 by zen
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