Ashwin's YouTube channel

[Gollum]

Ashwin's insights about Pope's technique was very interesting, lots of nuggets in this one hour recap. If Eng have brains they will analyze the **** out of these kutty stories. Ashwin predicts Crawley to have a fine career going forth. 

 

From India he talked more about Gill, Jurel and Kuldeep than even Jaiswal. Gill seems to have impressed him the most because he has seen the lows and carries mental scars, the point about not judging youngsters until they have seen some lows, and how they find their way back, was spot on. Then that spell of Jaddu where he took just one wicket (Dharamsala day 1), or how Kuldeep's transformation is a 2 year long process. 

 

These small 20-25 minutes segments are way better than the careers of our other Indian commentators and experts. Hope post his career, Ashwin is part of Sky or Channel 7, he will be wasted alongside the likes of Bhogle, Murali Karthik, Deep Dasgupta and 80 year old Sunny G. Ashwin deserves to be surrounded by Atherton, Hussain, Ward, Ponting, Gilchrist. 

Edited March 15 by Gollum

[Kron]

2 hours ago, Gollum said:

From the videos, it seems India was indeed rattled by Bazball approach, and we were put under severe pressure. England *ed up by not being judicious enough after putting us under pressure, Ashwin too couldn't find logic in Root's approach before Ranchi. 

 

@Lone Wolf bro, some really interesting insights there confirming our suspicions before the series started. He also talked about the difficulty Crawley was causing by his long reach and playing in front of the wicket, in contrast to Duckett who is quite short and plays square of the wicket. And Bashir's inward drift which is a rarity, it seems he impressed Ashwin more than many of the ICFers. And how Rohit took down Hartley which changed the trajectory of his series. 

Pietersen

Cook

 

2 players who did well in 2012 series to help England win both 6'2 plus

 

Crawley 6'4

 

Hayden did well in one series back in 04 I think 

 

Seems like height is crucial for openers to succeed in India? For away teams atleast

 

Crawley played very well despite only averaging 40. 

 

 

[vvvslaxman]

3 hours ago, Gollum said:

Ashwin's insights about Pope's technique was very interesting, lots of nuggets in this one hour recap. If Eng have brains they will analyze the **** out of these kutty stories. Ashwin predicts Crawley to have a fine career going forth. 

 

From India he talked more about Gill, Jurel and Kuldeep than even Jaiswal. Gill seems to have impressed him the most because he has seen the lows and carries mental scars, the point about not judging youngsters until they have seen some lows, and how they find their way back, was spot on. Then that spell of Jaddu where he took just one wicket (Dharamsala day 1), or how Kuldeep's transformation is a 2 year long process. 

 

These small 20-25 minutes segments are way better than the careers of our other Indian commentators and experts. Hope post his career, Ashwin is part of Sky or Channel 7, he will be wasted alongside the likes of Bhogle, Murali Karthik, Deep Dasgupta and 80 year old Sunny G. Ashwin deserves to be surrounded by Atherton, Hussain, Ward, Ponting, Gilchrist. 

It is very rare to have an analysis from an active player as a fan. As he often said he is  a cricket fan first. While doing this video he was watching NZ vs Aus.  

[vvvslaxman]

1 hour ago, Kron said:

Pietersen

Cook

 

2 players who did well in 2012 series to help England win both 6'2 plus

 

Crawley 6'4

 

Hayden did well in one series back in 04 I think 

 

Seems like height is crucial for openers to succeed in India? For away teams atleast

 

Crawley played very well despite only averaging 40. 

 

 

Applies to us also. Jiaswal is 6 feet, Gill is close to 6 feet. Laxman 6 feet

[putrevus]

On 3/13/2024 at 3:25 AM, Gollum said:

Subtitles are there dude, for both videos. 

Subtitles don't always do justice for subtleties.  

[Lone Wolf]

4 hours ago, Gollum said:

From the videos, it seems India was indeed rattled by Bazball approach, and we were put under severe pressure. England *ed up by not being judicious enough after putting us under pressure, Ashwin too couldn't find logic in Root's approach before Ranchi. 

 

@Lone Wolf bro, some really interesting insights there confirming our suspicions before the series started. He also talked about the difficulty Crawley was causing by his long reach and playing in front of the wicket, in contrast to Duckett who is quite short and plays square of the wicket. And Bashir's inward drift which is a rarity, it seems he impressed Ashwin more than many of the ICFers. And how Rohit took down Hartley which changed the trajectory of his series. 

I mentioned that Taller players with long reach tend to be very difficult customers for off spinners.  KP had similar attributes like Crawley & couple that with his unbelievable range.  He was a nightmare to deal with in 2012.

I like Ashwin's honesty about how difficult it was for him to tame Crawley. 

Crawley has clear weakness vs Pace which seems to be was only exploited by Akashdeep... And obviously Kuldeep whom BazBallers struggled to pick. 

Ashwin's analysis is very thoughtful I must say.   

He also was impressed by temperament and composure of Jurel which he would have seen even in RR camp. 

 

[vvvslaxman]

1 hour ago, Lone Wolf said:

I mentioned that Taller players with long reach tend to be very difficult customers for off spinners.  KP had similar attributes like Crawley & couple that with his unbelievable range.  He was a nightmare to deal with in 2012.

I like Ashwin's honesty about how difficult it was for him to tame Crawley. 

Crawley has clear weakness vs Pace which seems to be was only exploited by Akashdeep... And obviously Kuldeep whom BazBallers struggled to pick. 

Ashwin's analysis is very thoughtful I must say.   

He also was impressed by temperament and composure of Jurel which he would have seen even in RR camp. 

 

 

Indians are too late in identifying weakness. Sometimes even after identifying they use it veyr late like we bowled a bouncer to Head after he got to 100 in WTC final that too with no backward short leg where he fended a couple. Hartley looked like a deer caught in headlights even against Mukesh. But we kept feeding him spinners which is the only type of bowling he plays well. His partnership in the first test in both innings cost us valuable runs.

[Kron]

2 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

Applies to us also. Jiaswal is 6 feet, Gill is close to 6 feet. Laxman 6 feet

Interesting. You are right. Laxman 6'2

Dravid 5'11

Gill 6'0

JaiswL 6'0

[putrevus]

31 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

Indians are too late in identifying weakness. Sometimes even after identifying they use it veyr late like we bowled a bouncer to Head after he got to 100 in WTC final that too with no backward short leg where he fended a couple. Hartley looked like a deer caught in headlights even against Mukesh. But we kept feeding him spinners which is the only type of bowling he plays well. His partnership in the first test in both innings cost us valuable runs.

It falls on coach, captain and senior players.Not bowling bouncers when you had bowlers like Shami and Umesh was criminal.

 

But Arun and Shastri seemed to have worked and spotted Steve Smith's weakness along with other players in Australian tour.

[BacktoCricaddict]

1 hour ago, putrevus said:

It falls on coach, captain and senior players.Not bowling bouncers when you had bowlers like Shami and Umesh was criminal.

 

But Arun and Shastri seemed to have worked and spotted Steve Smith's weakness along with other players in Australian tour.

This is the primary responsibility of the coaching staff, no?  They have all sorts of analytics at their disposal. Other than this and correcting technical errors, what work do the batting and bowling coaches have?

[vvvslaxman]

1 minute ago, BacktoCricaddict said:

This is the primary responsibility of the coaching staff, no?  They have all sorts of analytics at their disposal. Other than this and correcting technical errors, what work do the batting and bowling coaches have?

The thing is Head was bounced out by Ishant in the Australian tour. Somehow they lost that intel. So when the coach changes they lose teh intel too?

[BacktoCricaddict]

One thing that I learnt from Ashwin's analyses is that it is not easy to simply change your line and length while bowling to different batsmen. He said that Crawley and Duckett work well together because Crawley will simply reach and hit, and Duckett will hit the same balls square off the backfoot. It means that the bowlers' rhythm gets disrupted if they have to bowl completely different lengths to the two batsmen trying to avoid this. It may be obvious to some people, but I always thought these guys are international players, they should be able to land every ball at will on any spot on the pitch without fail.

[BacktoCricaddict]

3 hours ago, putrevus said:

Subtitles don't always do justice for subtleties.  

Mainay bhi woheech bola bhai. Great minds and all that ...

 

 

[vvvslaxman]

3 minutes ago, BacktoCricaddict said:

One thing that I learnt from Ashwin's analyses is that it is not easy to simply change your line and length while bowling to different batsmen. He said that Crawley and Duckett work well together because Crawley will simply reach and hit, and Duckett will hit the same balls square off the backfoot. It means that the bowlers' rhythm gets disrupted if they have to bowl completely different lengths to the two batsmen trying to avoid this. It may be obvious to some people, but I always thought these guys are international players, they should be able to land every ball at will on any spot on the pitch without fail.

 

Ashwin is a cricket fan first then cricketer. If some idea crosses our mind i am sure it would cross his mind too. 

[BacktoCricaddict]

1 minute ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

Ashwin is a cricket fan first then cricketer. If some idea crosses our mind i am sure it would cross his mind too. 

Or some ignorant, idiotic keyboard cricketer like me asked him "Why can't you change your length every ball according to the batsman? Should be easy for you test players, no?" 

[Kron]

22 minutes ago, BacktoCricaddict said:

Or some ignorant, idiotic keyboard cricketer like me asked him "Why can't you change your length every ball according to the batsman? Should be easy for you test players, no?" 

World class atg level players can adjust lengths at will

 

Ashwin can too but no denying it was hard.

Crawley takes a huge stride forward and duckett is shorter likes to play off Blackfoot rather

[Vijy]

On 3/15/2024 at 3:46 AM, Gollum said:

From the videos, it seems India was indeed rattled by Bazball approach, and we were put under severe pressure. England *ed up by not being judicious enough after putting us under pressure, Ashwin too couldn't find logic in Root's approach before Ranchi. 

 

@Lone Wolf bro, some really interesting insights there confirming our suspicions before the series started. He also talked about the difficulty Crawley was causing by his long reach and playing in front of the wicket, in contrast to Duckett who is quite short and plays square of the wicket. And Bashir's inward drift which is a rarity, it seems he impressed Ashwin more than many of the ICFers. And how Rohit took down Hartley which changed the trajectory of his series. 

doesn't take much to rattle dravidiot or fatman

[Kron]

Ashwin also mentioned that in second test and 5th test, it wasn't bad at all to bat. 

England just failed badly under pressure. Yea they got wrecked in test 5 but in second test if they applied themselves better they could have really pushed india there. They lost all key moments. He said we were actually short in terms of run also first test he mentioned we should have really scored 550 and put the game beyond reach. We failed. 

[vvvslaxman]

2 hours ago, Kron said:

Ashwin also mentioned that in second test and 5th test, it wasn't bad at all to bat. 

England just failed badly under pressure. Yea they got wrecked in test 5 but in second test if they applied themselves better they could have really pushed india there. They lost all key moments. He said we were actually short in terms of run also first test he mentioned we should have really scored 550 and put the game beyond reach. We failed. 

Atleast 2 tests were drawable tests. Australia did draw a test on a belter of  a wicket unlike England.

[Kron]

1 hour ago, vvvslaxman said:

Atleast 2 tests were drawable tests. Australia did draw a test on a belter of  a wicket unlike England.

This was india at 50% and ashwin on the decline yet he still averaged 24 lol. 

 

Imagine at full strength and everyone fully fit and firing