AuxiliA Posted April 8, 2021 Posted April 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, zen said: That is playing against "only" Eng though ... In the last 20 years, NZ has been up and down as a test side iirc Yeah past records don't matter and this is arguably the best NZ team ever. But the same logic also applies to India. I posted this to dispel the myth that NZ do very well in English conditions compared to us. I feel the only advantage NZ have is that they are playing a series in ENG just before the final. Otherwise they have chinks in their armour too.
zen Posted April 8, 2021 Author Posted April 8, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, AuxiliA said: Yeah past records don't matter and this is arguably the best NZ team ever. But the same logic also applies to India. I posted this to dispel the myth that NZ do very well in English conditions compared to us. I feel the only advantage NZ have is that they are playing a series in ENG just before the final. Otherwise they have chinks in their armour too. Unfortunately, those records do not dispel the "myth" as they may have played shorter series involving 3 or less tests (players could be in different form from both sides), while Ind may have played more series involving 4 ot 5 tests (also played twice as many games in that period), allowing it to do relatively better ... based on past records, Ind would have not hoped to do well in the 1983 WC in Eng for e.g. ... what matters is the current form Edited April 8, 2021 by zen
AuxiliA Posted April 8, 2021 Posted April 8, 2021 7 minutes ago, zen said: Unfortunately, those records do not dispel the "myth" as they may have played shorter series involving 3 or less tests (players could be in different form from both sides), while Ind may have played more series involving 4 ot 5 tests (also played twice as many games in that period), allowing it to do relatively better ... based on past records, Ind would have not hoped to do well in the 1983 WC in Eng for e.g. ... what matters is the current form Short series are a double edged sword. SL won a 2 test series in England in 2014. Don't think they would have won a 5 match series. Hell even we would have won 1-0 in 2014, if it had been a short series. Agree with rest of your points.
zen Posted April 8, 2021 Author Posted April 8, 2021 1 minute ago, AuxiliA said: Short series are a double edged sword. SL won a 2 test series in England in 2014. Don't think they would have won a 5 match series. Hell even we would have won 1-0 in 2014, if it had been a short series. Agree with rest of your points. Again it would not tell much as there can be various factors. what matters is the current form ... NZ has been an up and down test team. Even in the 80s, it won mainly because of Hadlee ...
AuxiliA Posted April 8, 2021 Posted April 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, zen said: Again it would not tell much as there can be various factors. what matters is the current form ... NZ has been an up and down test team. Even in the 80s, it won mainly because of Hadlee ... Who do you think is in better form rn. Ind or NZ?
zen Posted April 8, 2021 Author Posted April 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, AuxiliA said: Who do you think is in better form rn. Ind or NZ? If NZ play more tests in Eng, it would be better prepared ... also depends upon conditions Good thing is that a draw would mean both teams sharing the title
Vilander Posted April 9, 2021 Posted April 9, 2021 (edited) 5 million vs 1300 million India the team of a billion hearts, a billion players want to play for India. aight done with some nice cliches for your reading pleasure, bye Edited April 9, 2021 by Vilander
zen Posted June 13, 2021 Author Posted June 13, 2021 So far the Kiwis have been brilliant, even beat Eng at home
zen Posted June 23, 2021 Author Posted June 23, 2021 Some 40 overs remain in the WTC final ... Kiwis need 117 runs to be the only winner or a draw to be a joint winner
zen Posted June 23, 2021 Author Posted June 23, 2021 Oh boy, Kiwis in 2021! ... my precognization was accurate
zen Posted September 14, 2021 Author Posted September 14, 2021 Now that Kiwis cashed in, can they make three ICC world events final in a row -> ICC ODI WC 2019, WTC (winner) 2021, and now the T20WC?
cricketfan28 Posted September 14, 2021 Posted September 14, 2021 Looks like that , hope they crash I will support any team against them.
Jay Posted September 15, 2021 Posted September 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Aiden said: Even Pakistan? Absolutely. I would certainly support the might green army against Kiwis or even the poms.
cricketfan28 Posted September 15, 2021 Posted September 15, 2021 12 hours ago, Aiden said: Even Pakistan? yes man .. kiwis has spoiled the party for us too many times.
zen Posted November 6, 2021 Author Posted November 6, 2021 Let's see if Kiwis go to the knockouts of another world cup tournament. As mentioned, if it makes it to the final, it would have played 3 different teams in 3 finals: 2019 ODI Eng 2021 WTC Ind 2021 T20 Aus/Pak
Norman Posted November 6, 2021 Posted November 6, 2021 (edited) Bracing myself for pain when @zen eventually bumps this thread in the evening after..... Edited November 6, 2021 by Norman
zen Posted November 6, 2021 Author Posted November 6, 2021 Just now, Norman said: Bracing myself for the pain when @zen eventually bumps this thread in the evening after..... NZ has had its trophy in 2021. Only thing to see is can it do it in back to back tournaments and that too in one year (pushing its luck).
Norman Posted November 6, 2021 Posted November 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, zen said: NZ has had its trophy in 2021. Only thing to see is can it do it in back to back tournaments and that too in one year (pushing its luck). No way they're beating England and Australia/Pakistan in the knockouts with that iffy batting lineup.
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