coffee_rules Posted February 1, 2021 Author Share Posted February 1, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, ash said: Those are not freebies. Every kid in the state has a laptop now to study. Free cycle, uniforms, mixie grinder , TV are all social justice measures. People like you are the ones who think poor people are just lazy and if they work hard and they will get rich, conveniently forgetting the caste and class barrier. Mr. SJW, Dont quote yourself as how I think. Keep to the topic, I think that is the model for HDI and that the model for HDI can’t be emulated elsewhere. These Mai baap Govt sops will be upgraded for next election and the parties swap roles every election. Edited February 1, 2021 by coffee_rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ash Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 34 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Mr. SJW, Dont quote yourself as how I think. Keep to the topic, I think that is the model for HDI and that the model for HDI can’t be emulated elsewhere. These Mai baap Govt sops will be upgraded for next election and the parties swap roles every election. Don't know what the f maai baap is , stick to English. It can be emulated if the govt and the leaders have social justice as their agenda and not just economic development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McCoy Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 The handing out of laptops, grinders, mixies is just pre-election gimmickery. It started with the dravida parties. The last true leader of Tamil nadu was Kamarajar who didn't issue handouts to win elections and that was the reason why Tamils didn't go for him later on. Its the fault of Tamils as a whole because of their short term gains, they missed out on long term gains. I say as a whole because that's how a democracy operates. Minority opinion even if it serves the right purpose gets squashed by the loudmouthed majority. And with the national IQ of 85 or thereabouts, we will always be this way. This is how the nations destroyed after ww2 such as germany and japan are doing better than us because their average iq is better. Vilander 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ash Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 4 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: The handing out of laptops, grinders, mixies is just pre-election gimmickery. It started with the dravida parties. The last true leader of Tamil nadu was Kamarajar who didn't issue handouts to win elections and that was the reason why Tamils didn't go for him later on. Its the fault of Tamils as a whole because of their short term gains, they missed out on long term gains. I say as a whole because that's how a democracy operates. Minority opinion even if it serves the right purpose gets squashed by the loudmouthed majority. And with the national IQ of 85 or thereabouts, we will always be this way. This is how the nations destroyed after ww2 such as germany and japan are doing better than us because their average iq is better. Nope I disagree this is a very privileged point of view. We cannot understand the major social shift that these laptops and grinders gave to the underprivileged. The last true leader argument is also false, all the Dravidian leaders right from Anna to JJ have done their part in lifting the state, with their own set of faults. The Dravidian agenda is arguably the best in the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 20 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: The handing out of laptops, grinders, mixies is just pre-election gimmickery. It started with the dravida parties. The last true leader of Tamil nadu was Kamarajar who didn't issue handouts to win elections and that was the reason why Tamils didn't go for him later on. Its the fault of Tamils as a whole because of their short term gains, they missed out on long term gains. I say as a whole because that's how a democracy operates. Minority opinion even if it serves the right purpose gets squashed by the loudmouthed majority. And with the national IQ of 85 or thereabouts, we will always be this way. This is how the nations destroyed after ww2 such as germany and japan are doing better than us because their average iq is better. Its not even laptops etc.. its more biryani and quarter dude. Not short term immediate term. Lulz. velu and Real McCoy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Hey in TN every school going kid gets a multivitamin and zinc tablet hehe there is governance there and it is working in their own way. But there is freebie culture and biryani quarter culture as well. Real McCoy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 1 hour ago, coffee_rules said: Mr. SJW, Dont quote yourself as how I think. Keep to the topic, I think that is the model for HDI and that the model for HDI can’t be emulated elsewhere. These Mai baap Govt sops will be upgraded for next election and the parties swap roles every election. Debate based on facts not your emotions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 I assume a random up guy looks pretty like this.. Stan AF, coffee_rules, Real McCoy and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted February 1, 2021 Author Share Posted February 1, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, ash said: The Dravidian agenda is arguably the best in the country. Pray, tell us, how does it best serve the country? Pitting others as Aryans and developing a failed and false Dravidian identity developed by a British missionary Caldwell, how is it best in the country? BTW, Mai Baap Sarkaar maane, Welfare State! Stop your Hindi hate. I know most urbans from TN know Hindi. Edited February 1, 2021 by coffee_rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ash Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 14 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Pray, tell us, how does it best serve the country? Pitting others as Aryans and developing a failed and false Dravidian identity developed by a British missionary Caldwell, how is it best in the country? BTW, Mai Baap Sarkaar maane, Welfare State! Stop your Hindi hate. I know most urbans from TN know Hindi. I am from Chennai , the most urban area from TN. I don't know Hindi . We don't hate Hindi , we just don't give a rat's ass about it. We thrive here without Hindi, why should we learn it? Dravidian identity is different from the agenda. By agenda I mean the Dravidian ideology over the last 50 which has given proper social justice measures breaking the caste barrier. If you want proof, Google it and burn seeing TN at top five in literally every development index in India Vilander 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 31 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Pray, tell us, how does it best serve the country? Pitting others as Aryans and developing a failed and false Dravidian identity developed by a British missionary Caldwell, how is it best in the country? BTW, Mai Baap Sarkaar maane, Welfare State! Stop your Hindi hate. I know most urbans from TN know Hindi. The whole dravid aryan is bull **** something I can agree on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 12 minutes ago, ash said: Dravidian identity is different from the agenda. By agenda I mean the Dravidian ideology over the last 50 which has given proper social justice measures breaking the caste barrier. If you want proof, Google it and burn seeing TN at top five in literally every development index in India Dude its not dravedian its TNs socialist political agenda. Lets put it across that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 33 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: developing a failed How has TNs socialist economics failed ? Can you pray tell kannadiga ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted February 1, 2021 Author Share Posted February 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, ash said: I am from Chennai , the most urban area from TN. I don't know Hindi . We don't hate Hindi , we just don't give a rat's ass about it. We thrive here without Hindi, why should we learn it? So, you will live in Chennai throughout your life? Go talk in Tamil when you travel to Delhi, even English will not work. This sort of eggheadness will not be good for your mental state, learning a new language is a matter of your overall growth, you guys have made it an ego issue. Stay in your well. Good luck. 5 minutes ago, ash said: Dravidian identity is different from the agenda. By agenda I mean the Dravidian ideology over the last 50 which has given proper social justice measures breaking the caste barrier. If you want proof, Google it and burn seeing TN at top five in literally every development index in India But, the agenda is toxic, and you have social issues with people pitting one against the other. Why should I burn if TN is doing good in development index. But it is coming at a cost. The social issues that the agenda causes with caste differences, religious differences is one of the breaking nature. Also, other states have a growth model, which TN is falling behind. Kerala has mostly remittance growth and it is causing investment in only some sectors like private health sector, not in public health. TN has issues with growth, it is doing good with industries (auto, textiles), but other states are going past it in growth. Look at the GST collections for eg. The revenue you generate for India's GDP will not give you bragging rights to ask for more federal funds and representation in national legislature. There is no point in living till 70, if you stay poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McCoy Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 2 hours ago, ash said: Nope I disagree this is a very privileged point of view. We cannot understand the major social shift that these laptops and grinders gave to the underprivileged. The last true leader argument is also false, all the Dravidian leaders right from Anna to JJ have done their part in lifting the state, with their own set of faults. The Dravidian agenda is arguably the best in the country. The only thing they have done that is good is keep guys like randomguy out of TN dravidian leaders have spoilt the people from hard working citizens to dole receiving suckers who demand the govts to give it to them. its almost like a drug thing they have created. on top of that, now you have the cheap tasmac that serves poor alcohol down the throats of idiots who line up to receive their daily serving. Not denying that anna, mgr, kk, jj also did good things but that was more of a case of them becoming millionaires doing politics so that they can do some good now and then. Some did it to gain punniyam as most of them believe in god. coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Why should I burn if TN is doing good in development index. But it is coming at a cost. The social issues that the agenda causes with caste differences, religious differences is one of the breaking nature. Also, other states have a growth model, which TN is falling behind. Kerala has mostly remittance growth and it is causing investment in only some sectors like private health sector, not in public health. TN has issues with growth, it is doing good with industries (auto, textiles), but other states are going past it in growth. Look at the GST collections for eg. The revenue you generate for India's GDP will not give you bragging rights to ask for more federal funds and representation in national legislature. You burn because you are a kannada lol. TN has a larger base so it will grow slower double lol. Pls post facts which economic or social indicator is TN trailing or not doing well in the country. Hehe. Else keep yourself shut. Real McCoy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted February 1, 2021 Author Share Posted February 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Vilander said: How has TNs socialist economics failed ? Can you pray tell kannadiga ? Selective editing , huh, தமிழன்? I cleared said "failed and false Dravidian identity"? The identity politics is failed as it is based on false ideology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McCoy Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: So, you will live in Chennai throughout your life? Go talk in Tamil when you travel to Delhi, even English will not work. This sort of eggheadness will not be good for your mental state, learning a new language is a matter of your overall growth, you guys have made it an ego issue. Stay in your well. Good luck. But, the agenda is toxic, and you have social issues with people pitting one against the other. Why should I burn if TN is doing good in development index. But it is coming at a cost. The social issues that the agenda causes with caste differences, religious differences is one of the breaking nature. Also, other states have a growth model, which TN is falling behind. Kerala has mostly remittance growth and it is causing investment in only some sectors like private health sector, not in public health. TN has issues with growth, it is doing good with industries (auto, textiles), but other states are going past it in growth. Look at the GST collections for eg. The revenue you generate for India's GDP will not give you bragging rights to ask for more federal funds and representation in national legislature. There is no point in living till 70, if you stay poor. Why dont you worry about your own issues in KTK which is the same one you are discussing. jeez are you saying ktk doesnt have castes and other religions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 So some growth metrics like investment. Tamil Nadu has grabbed 16 per cent of the funds that came into the country during the first half of the financial year 2021 (H1FY21), according to CARE ratings. The State, which was ranked third during the same period last year, has now surged ahead to the top spot. Andhra Pradesh ranked the second garnering 11 per cent of the investments, while Maharashtra, Rajasthan and Karnataka have attracted seven per cent investments each, says CARE Ratings, sourcing CMIE data of November 1, 2020. https://www.newindianexpress.com/states/tamil-nadu/2020/nov/04/at-16-tn-tops-country-in-investments-received-in-first-half-2219020.html @coffee_rules industry is not just IT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Selective editing , huh, தமிழன்? I cleared said "failed and false Dravidian identity"? The identity politics is failed as it is based on false ideology. State facts unkil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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