cricspirit Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Sen is min 140's this match and last match. He probably can touch 150 with a bit more effort. Mayank is in the next league. These guys need to stay fit and keep focus and commitment both. Life as a top level sports person is not easy. You have to make sacrifices and constantly work hard for excellence. Can't relax after getting some money and success. Then the career and achievements will stay unfulfilled. Can already see Siraj, Avesh etc in the take it easy after success mode. tapandrun, express bowling, Kron and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singhvivek141 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Just now, cricspirit said: Sen is min 140's this match and last match. He probably can touch 150 with a bit more effort. Mayank is in the next league. These guys need to stay fit and keep focus and commitment both. True Mayank & Umran are quickest. Mayank is more consistent with his pace. Tyagi was behind Umran but based on SMAT I think he had leapfrogged or atleast is toe to toe with Umran. Sen is behind those 3. vishalvirsingh, cricspirit and express bowling 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted April 13 Author Share Posted April 13 (edited) 28 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said: He can bowl well in death too, last game he was bowling slower ones which isn't his forte. He can bowl yorkers/low fulltosses and he should have stick to that. Want a larger sample size to form an opinion. Can he execute his yorkers regularly when under pressure ? Good middle over bowling is something we have seen in 2022 and now 2024. Edited April 13 by express bowling tapandrun and Mosher 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted April 13 Author Share Posted April 13 Sen 142 k outswinger. Dot ball. Mosher 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singhvivek141 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 (edited) 3 minutes ago, express bowling said: Want a larger sample size to form an opinion. Can get execure his yorkers regularly when under pressure ? Good middle over bowling is something we have seen in 2022 and now 2024. Agree, sample size is small. But on his debut game as well, when he had to bowl to Stoinis. He bowled yorkers and finished the game at the first 3 balls itself. He has the ability, maybe rhythm an issue as he is not playing regularly from last 1.5 years. Edited April 13 by singhvivek141 express bowling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted April 13 Author Share Posted April 13 Sen 144 k indipper. Mosher 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikhil_cric Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Sen bowled better today. Bowled a bit too full and straight at the end. He'll be better suited to ODI's anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted April 13 Author Share Posted April 13 2 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said: Agree, sample size is small. But on his debut game as well, when he had to bowl to Stoinis. He bowled yorkers and finished the game at the first 3 balls itself. He has the ability, maybe rhythm an issue as he is not playing regularly from last 5 years. Knowing which ball to bowl to which batter, taking into account the pitch, is very important. Does Sen have that quality ? He bowled the last 2 deliveries in the swinging arc of Livingstone. Not a smart thing to do. Mosher 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singhvivek141 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 1 minute ago, express bowling said: Knowing which ball to bowl to which batter, taking into account the pitch, is very important. Does Sen have that quality ? He bowled the last 2 deliveries in the swinging arc of Livingstone. Not a smart thing to do. He is not using bouncers too, used to get good bounce, maybe still not 100% confident. Couple of more games might clear the picture. express bowling and Mosher 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tapandrun Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 16 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said: He isn't that quick...usually hovers around 142-146 mark. 150 he has hit few times but not consistently. Consistant 140+ kmph is good pace, not every1 is 150 bowler. cricspirit, Mosher and singhvivek141 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cricspirit Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 128K from Avesh. He has definitely slowed down overall from 2 seasons ago. His attitude Tell me that he has decided IPL is enough. Rest is bonus. express bowling and singhvivek141 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhaan Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 1 minute ago, cricspirit said: 128K from Avesh. He has definitely slowed down overall from 2 seasons ago. His attitude Tell me that he has decided IPL is enough. Rest is bonus. He was quick for just one season in 2018 but there too he slowed down mid season after getting belted by Butler He used to clock high 140s Mosher 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tapandrun Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 1 minute ago, cricspirit said: 128K from Avesh. He has definitely slowed down overall from 2 seasons ago. His attitude Tell me that he has decided IPL is enough. Rest is bonus. Khaleel also seems to have similar outlook, he is only 2nd/3rd LAF bowler in Ind and still not pushing enough.. cricspirit, express bowling and singhvivek141 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhaan Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 7 minutes ago, express bowling said: Knowing which ball to bowl to which batter, taking into account the pitch, is very important. Does Sen have that quality ? He bowled the last 2 deliveries in the swinging arc of Livingstone. Not a smart thing to do. Those were not short nor full neither at pace nor slower or wide Nothing deliveries,he tends to bowl through motions when under the pump pace also reduces His biggest problem is his non bowling arm which is major factor of him erring in line so much Mosher and express bowling 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted April 13 Author Share Posted April 13 Avesh could have been a good white ball bowler if he wasn't a lazy chap. He understands match situations and batters' weaknesses. Is not predictable at the death. But drops down to 130 - 137 k and stops hitting the deck hard a bit too often. At that pace, even a ball bowled in supposedly good areas can get hit for 4s and 6s unless it's a perfect yorker. And the slower balls are less of a variation. Suhaan, Mosher and cricspirit 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tapandrun Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 20 minutes ago, Suhaan said: Those were not short nor full neither at pace nor slower or wide Nothing deliveries,he tends to bowl through motions when under the pump pace also reduces His biggest problem is his non bowling arm which is major factor of him erring in line so much This is common amongst all Ind bowler when batter are going after them they donot have a come back ball. Batters know they can get 3 boundaries, no one able to make a comeback, every 1 will get hit but need to bounce back. And in recent times all have started bowling wides/no-ball when under pressure rollingstoned 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Wolf Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Sen can be a gun test bowler... He has some attributes like Cummins... His fuller length is not at all floaty unlike Prasidh which is his biggest advantage. Can bowl at top of off with good accuracy unlike Tyagi and Umran. I am increasingly convinced with this guy... Kron, Mosher, tapandrun and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tapandrun Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Rabada bowing into 145 kmph now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted April 13 Author Share Posted April 13 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: Sen can be a gun test bowler... He has some attributes like Cummins... His fuller length is not at all floaty unlike Prasidh which is his biggest advantage. Can bowl at top of off with good accuracy unlike Tyagi and Umran. I am increasingly convinced with this guy... Sen's biggest issue is that he gives a boundary ball every other over. Doesn't have sufficient control over his lines even with the red ball. ( But then that is also the case with most of our so called accurate medium pacers like Mukesh ) Sen is like a taller Umesh with a better bouncer. Wants to bowl the channel and attack the stumps. Moves the ball away at pace, can seam the ball back in, can reverse the ball. Bowls some absolute jaffa ftom time to time and we would see some poor balls too. Sen will be handy on flat pitches in tests and ODIs where runs are being scored anyway but a sudden wicket or two can change things. While he may be a liability in low scoring matches. Not a T20I pacer yet. Edited April 13 by express bowling Mosher and rollingstoned 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Wolf Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 2 minutes ago, express bowling said: Sen's biggest issue is that he gives a boundary ball every other over. Doesn't have sufficient control over his lines even with the red ball. ( But then that is also the case with most of our so called accurate medium pacers like Mukesh ) Sen is like a taller Umesh with a better bouncer. Wants to bowl the channel and attack the stumps. Moves the ball away at pace, can seam the ball back in, can reverse the ball. Bowls some absolute jaffa ftom time to time and we would see some poor balls too. Sen will be handy on flat pitches in tests and ODIs where runs are being scored anyway but a sudden wicket or two can change things. While he may be a liability in low scoring matches. Not a T20I pacer yet. I already see improvement in Sen 2.0... Lot more tighter and accurate. In T20 maybe there is lot more going on & he can lose his radar (everyone does) Strictly Test and ODI cricket wise he is the way to go.. Mosher and express bowling 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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