express bowling Posted May 6 Author Share Posted May 6 Anshul Kamboj bowling 132 to 138 k. Mosher and Suhaan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tapandrun Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 Kamboj looks slippery, some tennis ball like action and transitions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tapandrun Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 5 hours ago, express bowling said: The agenda is to maintain / develop some stars who will bring in the crowds / spectators which converts to money. Team India winning or developing high quality bowlers for the future is not that important to them. Some white ball batting stars will serve their purpose. There is high potential for Batters' marketability, its longterm and only requires initial investments and once that is done boards are sorted for long time. May be couple of decades in some cases, older a batter gets more marketable he is. Dhoni and Sachin are example. With bowlers first not every bowler is marketable, secondly even when a board do a initial investments on a bowlers they are not sure if that would last even 5 years and older the bowler gets less marketable they are. And in all Ind cricketing set-up has no idea how to care for a bowler, before Sastri and Kolhi they did not had any idea how to create a pace attack express bowling and JaFanatic 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted May 6 Author Share Posted May 6 Hardik bowled with fire after a long time. A good percentage of deliveries in the 135 k to 142 k range. And hit the deck hard and got bounce. 3 wickets as a result. Vijy, Mosher and Suhaan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted May 6 Author Share Posted May 6 (edited) Harsha suggesting that Umran was set to come in.as impact sub today .. but SRH batting crash meant a batter coming in. Edited May 6 by express bowling Mosher, Suhaan and Lone Wolf 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Wolf Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 1 minute ago, express bowling said: Hardik bowled with fire after a long time. A good percentage of deliveries in the 135 k to 142 k range. And hit the deck hard and got bounce. 3 wickets as a result. Pitch has plenty of pace and nip... Especially on those grassy patches.. Would have loved to see Umran today Mosher and express bowling 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Wolf Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 Just now, express bowling said: Harsha suggesting that Imran was set to come in.as impact sub today .. but SRH batting crash meant a batter coming in. Kangaali main aata geela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted May 6 Author Share Posted May 6 144 k cracking yorker by Bumrah. 1 Suhaan and Mosher 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singhvivek141 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 4 minutes ago, express bowling said: Harsha suggesting that Umran was set to come in.as impact sub today .. but SRH batting crash meant a batter coming in. Nahi hota bhai. SRH won't go beyond their beloved Unadkut...or maybe to Markande post seeing the turn from Piyush. express bowling and Lone Wolf 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted May 6 Author Share Posted May 6 Bumrah 4th over Slower Slower 144 143 142 142 All faster balls were yorkers and attempted yorkers. Suhaan and Mosher 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhaan Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 2 hours ago, express bowling said: Harsha suggesting that Umran was set to come in.as impact sub today .. but SRH batting crash meant a batter coming in. Good that they still lost JaFanatic and express bowling 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MK55 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 (edited) 6 hours ago, express bowling said: Harsha suggesting that Umran was set to come in.as impact sub today .. but SRH batting crash meant a batter coming in. Later on he said that Unadkad could not be brought in coz they utilized the impact sub. And that they possibly missed his services. Going by how SRH has been acting, extremely unlikely that Umran would have been brought in when both Unadkad and Marakande were in the impact subs. Umran should just forget about cricket. :( or at least the ipl Edited May 6 by MK55 tapandrun and express bowling 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tapandrun Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 Mohit Sharma , Sandeeep warrier have gone for 11+ runs per over , Unadkat and Bhuvi have gone for~10/10+ , Jansen is going for nearly 13 and got 1 wkt how bad can Umran and Tyagi go for. If high pace bowlers were going at around similar ER, commentators would have been buzzing with all the cliches -- Faster they bowl faster it goes, compromising line and length for pace, only pace does not get you wkts etc but no heard anything on them yet. express bowling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MediumPacer Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 8 minutes ago, tapandrun said: Mohit Sharma , Sandeeep warrier have gone for 11+ runs per over , Unadkat and Bhuvi have gone for~10/10+ , Jansen is going for nearly 13 and got 1 wkt how bad can Umran and Tyagi go for. If high pace bowlers were going at around similar ER, commentators would have been buzzing with all the cliches -- Faster they bowl faster it goes, compromising line and length for pace, only pace does not get you wkts etc but no heard anything on them yet. Pace bowling techniques are more complicated than spin bowling and since Ind are low on iq, it's difficult for us to figure out. Even in terms of tactics ,field placements, pace bowling is more complicated than slow bowling ,as the ball flies off the bat ,specially in these conditions. singhvivek141 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MediumPacer Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 https://www.cricbuzz.com/cricket-news/130354/the-point-of-difference-what-the-bowling-community-needs nice points by ryan harris. Guess aus will now search for weird action pacers for t20s and keep the normal pacers for tests ,odis might be a mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singhvivek141 Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 (edited) 37 minutes ago, MediumPacer said: https://www.cricbuzz.com/cricket-news/130354/the-point-of-difference-what-the-bowling-community-needs nice points by ryan harris. Guess aus will now search for weird action pacers for t20s and keep the normal pacers for tests ,odis might be a mix. Just having a weird action won't cut it. As he explained, bowlers need to find out a stock ball even in T20s and use slower ones as a surprise. What we see a trend here is bowlers are using slower balls as their stock deliveries while using pace up option as their surprise weapon. That gimmick can work for some time but not in a long run. Mohit used this gimmick for 2 years, now getting pasting everynow and then. Jaydev used this slower ball gimmick and was successful in 2017, Harshal in 2020/21...now both of them are getting belted left and right. Now no one can say what's their stock ball is, on which they have 100% mastery...I am sure they themselves don't know it now. Bumrah in comparison is still sticking to traditional pacy deliveries and yorkers while bowling slower ones as a surprise. Execution is the key and Bumrah has an edge on it in comparison to others. Shami too is an old school pacer who has gotten success without resorting to these gimmicky slower ones and has stick to what works for him. What works for Pathirana is his ability to bowl pin point yorkers at pace..similar to Malinga. Tushara has a different action but doesn't have that consistency yet..hence he often goes for runs.. Edited May 7 by singhvivek141 express bowling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 1 minute ago, singhvivek141 said: Just having a weird action won't cut it. As he explained, bowlers need to find out a stock ball even in T20s and use slower ones as a surprise. What we see a trend here is bowlers are using slower balls as their stock deliveries while using pace up option as their surprise weapon. That gimmick can work for some time but not in a long run. Mohit used this gimmick for 2 years, now getting pasting everynow and then. Jaydev used this slower ball gimmick and was successful in 2017, Harshal in 2020/21...now both of them are getting belted left and right. Now no one can say what's their stock ball is, on which they have 100% mastery...I am sure they themselves don't know it know. Bumrah in comparison is still sticking to traditional pacy deliveries and yorkers while bowling slower ones as a surprise. Execution is the key and Bumrah has an edge on it in comparison to others. Shami too is an old school pacer who has gotten success without resorting to these gimmicky slower ones and has stick to what works for him. What works for Pathirana is his ability to bowl pin point yorkers at pace..similar to Malinga. Tushara has a different action but doesn't have that consistency yet..hence he often goes for runs.. Tushara doesn't have the pace Pathirana but he swings the new ball which is a wicket taking option in PP and the reason for the wickets he is getting now. singhvivek141 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singhvivek141 Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 1 hour ago, MediumPacer said: Pace bowling techniques are more complicated than spin bowling and since Ind are low on iq, it's difficult for us to figure out. Even in terms of tactics ,field placements, pace bowling is more complicated than slow bowling ,as the ball flies off the bat ,specially in these conditions. That's why Ganguly is tactically regarded as the best captain. All 3 Indian pacers were clocking 140+ in 2003 WC...he maintained good captaincy and allowed them to bowl quick traditional pace deliveries. MS was a brilliant reader and his placement vs spin is top notch. But he can't manage pace well, Kohli managed pace in longer formats well but struggled to manage them in white ball format. Pitches too play a key role...same Wankhede yesterday was looking like a bowlers paradise. Flat patta will put everyone on the backfoot looking for defensive options. express bowling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MediumPacer Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 36 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said: Just having a weird action won't cut it. Of course, not just gimmicky ones but ones with the necessary pace ,then the stock ball can be used even in these conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MediumPacer Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 39 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said: Shami too is an old school pacer who has gotten success without resorting to these gimmicky slower ones and has stick to what works for him. Shami used to get hammered in ipl for a long time ,he improved in the later years.His action too isnt suited for t20s . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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