Adamant Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Rasgulla said: He was owned by Anderson more than anyone. All these sachin faced bowled better bowlers is BS. Even steyn owned him at that time lol Actually Tendu did well against Steyn, he avgd 49 vs him. Edited August 31, 2021 by Adamant Vijy 1
New guy Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 The average calculation in OP is completely wrong. Its just using cricinfo average vs a player. But this calculation only takes into account the innings where you are out by a bowler. If a batsman scores 100 and then gets out to another bowler, its not calculated in average For example, if i just filter for averages for player when involving anderson, that will give a true picture. In that case, kohlis average when anderson plays is 45, sachins is 35, etc
Ankit_sharma03 Posted August 31, 2021 Author Posted August 31, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, New guy said: The average calculation in OP is completely wrong. Its just using cricinfo average vs a player. But this calculation only takes into account the innings where you are out by a bowler. If a batsman scores 100 and then gets out to another bowler, its not calculated in average For example, if i just filter for averages for player when involving anderson, that will give a true picture. In that case, kohlis average when anderson plays is 45, sachins is 35, etc i did check on one more site cricmetric which basically has batsman vs bowler numbers n it was same for dhoni Overall TEST Total 297 534 6 404 47 1 55.6 49.5 Year Runs Balls Outs Dots 4s 6s SR Avg 2006 4 18 0 14 0 0 22.2 - 2007 54 82 1 53 6 0 65.9 54.0 2008 8 5 1 3 2 0 160.0 8.0 2011 92 138 1 105 17 1 66.7 92.0 2012 43 104 1 81 6 0 41.3 43.0 2014 96 187 2 148 16 0 51.3 48.0 In england MS DHONI VS JAMES ANDERSON Batsman: MS DhoniBowler: James Anderson TEST Total 242 407 4 306 39 1 59.5 60.5 Year Runs Balls Outs Dots 4s 6s SR Avg 2007 54 82 1 53 6 0 65.9 54.0 2011 92 138 1 105 17 1 66.7 92.0 2014 96 187 2 148 16 0 51.3 48.0 Edited August 31, 2021 by Ankit_sharma03
New guy Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Adamant said: Ok now I think it's time to show you some stats. http://www.cricmetric.com/matchup.py?batsman=SR+Tendulkar&bowler=JM+Anderson&groupby=year&start_date=2002-01-01&end_date=2009-12-31&start_over=0&end_over=9999 From 1 jan 2001 to 31 dec 2009- Sachin avgd 19.2 against James Anderson. Actually Tendu avgd lesser at his peak against Anderson than he did in his last few years. As i said in the next post, that average calculation is completely flawed. It only calculated the innings where a batsman got out to anderson. If a batsman gets out to another bowler, its not calculated. For example, check the 2008 series, sachin is said to average 18 against anderson. In second test he scored 31 runs, out of which 18 was against anderson and got out. In first test he scored 103 but got out to Collingwood so the runs he scored there doesnt count towards the average calculation In truth anderson only got him out once that series, he got out to other bowlers. His overall average in 2008 series was 52 which gives a truer picture Edited August 31, 2021 by New guy Rasgulla 1
New guy Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: i did check on one more site cricmetric which basically has batsman vs bowler numbers n it was same for dhoni Overall TEST Total 297 534 6 404 47 1 55.6 49.5 Year Runs Balls Outs Dots 4s 6s SR Avg 2006 4 18 0 14 0 0 22.2 - 2007 54 82 1 53 6 0 65.9 54.0 2008 8 5 1 3 2 0 160.0 8.0 2011 92 138 1 105 17 1 66.7 92.0 2012 43 104 1 81 6 0 41.3 43.0 2014 96 187 2 148 16 0 51.3 48.0 In england MS DHONI VS JAMES ANDERSON Batsman: MS DhoniBowler: James Anderson TEST Total 242 407 4 306 39 1 59.5 60.5 Year Runs Balls Outs Dots 4s 6s SR Avg 2007 54 82 1 53 6 0 65.9 54.0 2011 92 138 1 105 17 1 66.7 92.0 2014 96 187 2 148 16 0 51.3 48.0 Yeah but you can understand how this is a flawed concept right? Lets says rohit sharma played 5 innings against anderson. He gets out once to him after scoring 25 runs, part of a 100 score. In the other 4 innings he gets out to other bowlers for 0 first ball His average against anderson is 25 Now second batsman pujara plays same 5 innings and scores 3 30s, getting out to anderson 3 times and 0 other two times by other bowlers. Who was really troubled by anderson? Pujara got out 3 times to anderson but averages 30 there compared to sharmas 25 Edited August 31, 2021 by New guy
rkt.india Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 15 minutes ago, New guy said: As i said in the next post, that average calculation is completely flawed. It only calculated the innings where a batsman got out to anderson. If a batsman gets out to another bowler, its not calculated. For example, check the 2008 series, sachin is said to average 18 against anderson. In second test he scored 31 runs, out of which 18 was against anderson and got out. In first test he scored 103 but got out to Collingwood so the runs he scored there doesnt count towards the average calculation In truth anderson only got him out once that series, he got out to other bowlers. His overall average in 2008 series was 58 which gives a truer picture 2008 series in India?
New guy Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, rkt.india said: 2008 series in India? Yep
Adamant Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, New guy said: As i said in the next post, that average calculation is completely flawed. It only calculated the innings where a batsman got out to anderson. If a batsman gets out to another bowler, its not calculated. For example, check the 2008 series, sachin is said to average 18 against anderson. In second test he scored 31 runs, out of which 18 was against anderson and got out. In first test he scored 103 but got out to Collingwood so the runs he scored there doesnt count towards the average calculation In truth anderson only got him out once that series, he got out to other bowlers. His overall average in 2008 series was 58 which gives a truer picture Del Edited August 31, 2021 by Adamant
Adamant Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 27 minutes ago, New guy said: As i said in the next post, that average calculation is completely flawed. It only calculated the innings where a batsman got out to anderson. If a batsman gets out to another bowler, its not calculated. For example, check the 2008 series, sachin is said to average 18 against anderson. In second test he scored 31 runs, out of which 18 was against anderson and got out. In first test he scored 103 but got out to Collingwood so the runs he scored there doesnt count towards the average calculation In truth anderson only got him out once that series, he got out to other bowlers. His overall average in 2008 series was 58 which gives a truer picture Thanks for pointing this out. I see, this site is totally crap then. Lol Only counting a player's run when he gets out. Also, the OP is also totally wrong then. Even I was wondering how some site has better data than cricinfo(regarding player matchups). Looks like we can only look at averages when Anderson was playing.
Ajju Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 You can Filter N no of combinations finally DHONI will be top
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