Lord Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: i hve been one of the biggest advocate of 6th bowling option here for yrs now but ill go for specialist , im not at all convinced by Venkatesh he did land yorkers consistently enough. for 2 overs hes okay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamant Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: i hve been one of the biggest advocate of 6th bowling option here for yrs now but ill go for specialist , im not at all convinced by Venkatesh Yes, and specially we don't know how he will do at no. 6. I am also not buying into the hype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, Lord said: he did land yorkers consistently enough. for 2 overs hes okay his batting doesnt convince me , bowling is fine for these pitches even if he had to bowl 4 overs he ll pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamant Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, Lord said: he did land yorkers consistently enough. for 2 overs hes okay So in order to have one extra trundler, you are bargaining on our lowerd order strength when people are already doubting our top orders Intent. Venkatesh shouldn't be there in the squad. Just play Samson at 6 and ask him to go gung ho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Adamant said: So in order to have one extra trundler, you are bargaining on our lowerd order strength when people are already doubting our top orders Intent. Venkatesh shouldn't be there in the squad. Just play Samson at 6 and ask him to go gung ho. no it'll either be him or Hardik.Hardik if hes bowling. Samson is not an intl level player yet.Failed all his chances.Rightly dropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Adamant said: Yes, and specially we don't know how he will do at no. 6. I am also not buying into the hype. he does bat all over the order but Wc will be a diff ball game- international quality attacks + on these pitches batting in middle wud be tough coz its not easy to come n get ur timing right . Add to it he has now had habbit of opening for a month so we dnt knw if he ll be able to adjust quickly and by the time he does we wud have already played few games. Knowing our top order he neways will get a chance to bat in middle once in 3-4 games n then he ll have to adjust to middle order role n international attack....yea so just nothing convinces me in his case Edited October 7, 2021 by Ankit_sharma03 Adamant 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majestic Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 It is a tricky situation for India if Pandya doesn't bowl. If you play Jadeja at 6, Thakur at 7 and D Chahar at 8, then maybe that spot gets covered up. I don't have faith on Venky Iyer or Harshal yet. Rahul Rohit Kohli Pant SKY Jadeja Lord D Chahar Varun C Yuzi C/Rahul C Bumrah Batting might have weakened a bit but bowling is certainly improving here. D Chahar can be a new bowl specialist and Lord can be used in different phases of the game and he can be that wicket taker when it matters for India. Lord 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedheat Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 11 minutes ago, Adamant said: That happens once in a blue moon, especially in a t20, can't make a lineup based on that, just ask Rohit or Virat to bowl one over each in that case, remember Kohli bowled in t20 Wc 2016 too. The 6th bowler is crucial since it is quite normal in T20 cricket for one bowler to have a bad day, in that case the 6th bowler can be deployed efficiently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Cricspin said: I thought Hardik is ruled out as far as bowling is concerned. What was that report last week. Even if he bowls, he cant suddenly be a great T20 bowler taking wickets and stopping runs. he'll be required for 2 overs. That should be okay. 6th bowler job is to stop runs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamant Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Lord said: no it'll either be him or Hardik.Hardik if hes bowling. Samson is not an intl level player yet.Failed all his chances.Rightly dropped. Samson has failed, I admit that. I have been his biggest critic but atleast he is not in two minds nowadays. We all know he has the potential and we don't have anyone better, he is definitely a better batsman than out of form Pandya so I"ll take him. Also he has made quite a few runs this IPL. Having runs under the belt always helps, he has all the shots and at this moment he is basically a Andhon mai Kaana Raja. Edited October 7, 2021 by Adamant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majestic Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 Honestly, given the stats padder we have got in top three, the absence of Pandya at 6 isn't a big deal. Jadeja is doing great currently and Thakur can play the cameos of 12 ball-25 if required. Problem is they gotta play DC instead of Bhuvi which I don't see Indian TM going with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamant Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Majestic said: . Problem is they gotta play DC instead of Bhuvi which I don't see Indian TM going with. Why though? Bhuvi has definitely performed better as a bowler this IPL and I dont think Chahar's batting adds any value in t20s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, Adamant said: Samson has failed, I admit that. I have been his biggest critic but atleast he is not in two minds nowadays. We all know he has the potential and we don't have anyone better, he is definitely a better batsman than out of form Pandya so I"ll take him. Also he has made quite a few runs this IPL. Having runs under the belt always helps, he has all the shots and at this moment he is basically a Andhon mai Kaana Raja. he's also top order player. At 6 you need someone used to that or similar position.Kishan/DK can be tried. Gaikwad and Mayank are also among runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majestic Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 Just now, Adamant said: Why though? Bhuvi has definitely performed better as a bowler this IPL and I dont think Chahar's batting adds any value in t20s. Deepak Chahar is a better striker than Bhuvi. Bhuvi has been awful in IPL this year, look at his stats. Chahar has been better, although nothing extraordinary either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 (edited) del Edited October 7, 2021 by Ankit_sharma03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, Adamant said: Why though? Bhuvi has definitely performed better as a bowler this IPL and I dont think Chahar's batting adds any value in t20s. bhuvi batting has no power, he can play grounded shots Chahar has can play lofted shots much better although he also is no Shardul As bowler , bhuvi is clearly far away from his best infact very harmless . If these tracks wud have been patta he wud have had gotten some severe bashing by now. These tracks have actually proved better for hit the deck bowlers so even chahar hasnt looked that threating in UAE both this n last time . So Siraj, Avesh, Thakur are much better options now as bowlers About extra batting apart from Thakur none of them are providing enough that u compromise on bowling. Thakur is making a case with ball to as these conditions are working for his bowling big time. Even next yr australian condition will help shardul bowling (as i have always said best use of thakur bowling in LOI is longer grounds, two pace or spongy wkts) Chahar is a much better bowling option then thakur in India Edited October 7, 2021 by Ankit_sharma03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 7 hours ago, Lord said: Samson is not an intl level player yet.Failed all his chances.Rightly dropped. Talent to zabaradast hai usme lekin wo akela kaafi nhin. Neways he wont work from 4-7 in any spot. Will be as inconsistent as rohit was , like rohit 1-3 is best for him His s/r in IPL at 6 is 105 . Guys like kishen n pant are much more versatile players then as they can bat from 1-7 anywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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