Chakdephatte Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 (edited) Inspired by Khota and Maniac's post, I am writing why I think India is going to lose in the World T20. Sir Don Pandya is not bowling, so we have only one all-rounder in top 7, Jadeja. If he is playing as a batsman, we will have only 5 bowling options. If two are those have a bad day, we will not have part timer to do the job. I can't rule out an allrounder coming out of nowhere to replace Pandya, but that is not a great idea. Venkatesh Iyer has a lot to prove, is not an international ready player, Dube, Washi, don't even think. We have no replacements ready despite him being injured for so long. Hardik does not provide the balance that he used to. In fact, he only disturbs it by not bowling. Can't win with him, can't win without him. Edited October 7, 2021 by Chakdephatte Sunil_narine024 and maniac 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuarantineTormentino Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 How can you forget Lord Thakur??? If SDP cannot bowl then play Sir at no. 6 and Lord at 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chakdephatte Posted October 7, 2021 Author Share Posted October 7, 2021 (edited) 25 minutes ago, QuarantineTormentino said: How can you forget Lord Thakur??? If SDP cannot bowl then play Sir at no. 6 and Lord at 7 He was not in the original squad. Moreover, he is seen as a no.8. Might perform better than SDP though, even as a batsman. Edited October 7, 2021 by Chakdephatte Sunil_narine024 and QuarantineTormentino 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuarantineTormentino Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 Also I don’t see why Venkatesh Iyer cannot make the squad if required. The likes of Rampaul, Inglis, Mills etc. have all made wt20 squads on the back of domestic t20 performances express bowling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chakdephatte Posted October 7, 2021 Author Share Posted October 7, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, QuarantineTormentino said: Also I don’t see why Venkatesh Iyer cannot make the squad if required. The likes of Rampaul, Inglis, Mills etc. have all made wt20 squads on the back of domestic t20 performances He is mighty impressive. I rate him. But anyone can look impressive in 4-5 innings. Harshal would be a better choice, I wish RCB use him better as a batsman. Why does Dan Cristian or even Jamieson, bat higher than him? Edited October 7, 2021 by Chakdephatte Sunil_narine024 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maniac Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 (edited) I have a different take. Having no-rounders and fake-allrounders is going to cost us more. Dube hasn’t bowled Pandya hasn’t bowled Jadeja outside of minnows is probably the allrounder who got the longest rope in T20 cricket for not doing anything. Please don’t throw his test stats or one off Odi performances please. Krunal Pandya- enough said Sundar is injured but haven’t seen him do anything with the bat in T20 Lord Thakur is a good bowler who can bat and his batting is a huge bonus but not sure if I will trust him in a 60/6 situation with the bat. Chahar has potential but again hasn’t done anything with the bat except that 1 odi knock Bhuvi- first let him last 3 high intensity games in a row Axar is decent and a fine bowler but more like a wildcard and not a consistent player Have never seen Harshal bat. His bowling well enjoy the ride but it’s going to come crashing shortly Vijay Shankar - well need I say more? we are better off with specialists than such allrounders. A couple of names in the above list are good enough as specialists in one skill but they can’t be called allrounders. It’s a stretch. Edited October 7, 2021 by maniac nevada 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 yes ideally you need atleast 6 bowling options and batting till 8 in T20 Hardik's bowling is crucial for us express bowling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 6 hours ago, Chakdephatte said: Inspired by Khota uske hisaab ye breed exist nhin krti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chakdephatte Posted October 7, 2021 Author Share Posted October 7, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: uske hisaab ye breed exist nhin krti Hahaha. I meant, his thread, " Not selecting Dhawan will cost....". My title was inspired by it Edited October 7, 2021 by Chakdephatte Lord 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 54 minutes ago, maniac said: Lord Thakur is a good bowler who can bat and his batting is a huge bonus but not sure if I will trust him in a 60/6 situation with the bat. at 60/6 , thakur is better than thala or sdp express bowling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 (edited) 1. Goods LOI teams would have 3 all-rounders from 6 to 8, with a batsman keeper in the top 5. 2. Good teams would have a backup for all critical positions. 6. Hardik ... backup Venkatesh 7. Jadeja ... backup Axar 8. Shardul ... backup Chahar Backups could be in the main squad or in the reserves. This would be ideal. 1. Rohit 2. Venkatesh 3. Kohli 4. Rahul 5. Pant 6. Hardik 7. Jadeja 8. Chahar Can be our line-up if Hardik is not bowling. Venkatesh' s inexperience should not be an issue. We have seen youngsters like Yuvraj, Zaheer, Joginder play crucial roles as rookies in big tournaments. Edited October 7, 2021 by express bowling tweaker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 Every player serves a particular purpose , if u dnt have that player find another player who can do the role of the guy he can replace Dnt look at this in a way that we are missing all rounder-look at what role ur missing and find a player for it or make 2 players do that role Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chakdephatte Posted October 7, 2021 Author Share Posted October 7, 2021 (edited) 46 minutes ago, express bowling said: Venkatesh' s inexperience should not be an issue. We have seen youngsters like Yuvraj, Zaheer, Joginder play crucial roles as rookies in big tournaments. You must have seen him bowling in domestic, I haven't. T20 is the most testing format for 6th bowlers. That's why I am not sure about him. He inspires confidence with his body language though. Don't compare with Yuvraj. He played in a different era. Part timers were successful in those times. Iyer will not have Ganguly and Sachin at the other end to bowl. Edited October 7, 2021 by Chakdephatte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamant Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 42 minutes ago, express bowling said: 1. Goods LOI teams would have 3 all-rounders from 6 to 8, with a batsman keeper in the top 5. 2. Good teams would have a backup for all critical positions. 6. Hardik ... backup Venkatesh 7. Jadeja ... backup Axar 8. Shardul ... backup Chahar Backups could be in the main squad or in the reserves. This would be ideal. 1. Rohit 2. Venkatesh 3. Kohli 4. Rahul 5. Pant 6. Hardik 7. Jadeja 8. Chahar Can be our line-up if Hardik is not bowling. Venkatesh' s inexperience should not be an issue. We have seen youngsters like Yuvraj, Zaheer, Joginder play crucial roles as rookies in big tournaments. Not sure how Venkatesh will do at no. 6, I don't think including him just to get 2 overs is a good move, we shoul play 5 bowlers instead. All they need to bowl is a 24 balls. We can have a specialist batsman at 6 that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 Just now, Adamant said: Not sure how Venkatesh will do at no. 6, I don't think including him just to get 2 overs is a good move, we shoul play 5 bowlers instead. All they need to bowl is a 24 balls. We can have a specialist batsman at 6 that way. you need 6 bowling options in case one gets hit/injured. express bowling and Sunil_narine024 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamant Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Chakdephatte said: You must have seen him bowling in domestic, I haven't. T20 is the most dangerous format for 6th bowlers. That's why I am not sure about him. Don't compare with Yuvraj. He played in a different era. Part timers were successful in those times. Iyer will not have Ganguly and Sachin at the other end to bowl. What has Yuvraj done in t20is, I mean as a bowler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamant Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 Just now, Lord said: you need 6 bowling options in case one gets hit/injured. That happens once in a blue moon, especially in a t20, can't make a lineup based on that, just ask Rohit or Virat to bowl one over each in that case, remember Kohli bowled in t20 Wc 2016 too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chakdephatte Posted October 7, 2021 Author Share Posted October 7, 2021 (edited) On 10/7/2021 at 9:30 PM, Adamant said: What has Yuvraj done in t20is, I mean as a bowler. Read the comment I was replying to. It's not about Yuvi. I was talking about 6th bowler in general. Edited December 12, 2021 by Chakdephatte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, Adamant said: That happens once in a blue moon, especially in a t20, can't make a lineup based on that, just ask Rohit or Virat to bowl one over each in that case, remember Kohli bowled in t20 Wc 2016 too. 1 bowler getting smashed is common. We'll forced to complete his overs which can cost us even more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 6 minutes ago, Lord said: you need 6 bowling options in case one gets hit/injured. i hve been one of the biggest advocate of 6th bowling option here for yrs now but ill go for specialist , im not at all convinced by Venkatesh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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