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Lack of all-rounder options is going to cost India the World T20


Chakdephatte

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Inspired by Khota and Maniac's post, I am writing why I think India is going to lose in the World T20. Sir Don Pandya is not bowling, so we have only one all-rounder in top 7, Jadeja. If he is playing as a batsman, we will have only 5 bowling options. If two are those have a bad day, we will not have part timer to do the job.

 

I can't rule out an allrounder coming out of nowhere to replace Pandya, but that is not a great idea. Venkatesh Iyer has a lot to prove, is not an international ready player, Dube, Washi, don't even think. We have no replacements ready despite him being injured for so long.

 

Hardik does not provide the balance that he used to. In fact, he only disturbs it by not bowling. Can't win with him, can't win without him.

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25 minutes ago, QuarantineTormentino said:

How can you forget Lord Thakur??? If SDP cannot bowl then play Sir at no. 6 and Lord at 7

He was not in the original squad.

 

Moreover, he is seen as a no.8. Might perform better than SDP though, even as a batsman.

 

 

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6 minutes ago, QuarantineTormentino said:

Also I don’t see why Venkatesh Iyer cannot make the squad if required. The likes of Rampaul, Inglis, Mills etc. have all made wt20 squads on the back of domestic t20 performances

He is mighty impressive. I rate him. But anyone can look impressive in 4-5 innings. Harshal would be a better choice, I wish RCB use him better as a batsman. Why does Dan Cristian or even Jamieson, bat higher than him?

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I have a different take. Having no-rounders and fake-allrounders is going to cost us more.

 

Dube hasn’t bowled

 

Pandya hasn’t bowled

 

Jadeja outside of minnows is probably the allrounder who got the longest rope in T20 cricket for not doing anything. Please don’t throw his test stats or one off Odi performances please.

 

Krunal Pandya- enough said

 

Sundar is injured but haven’t seen him do anything with the bat in T20

 

Lord Thakur is a good bowler who can bat and his batting is a huge bonus but not sure if I will trust him in a 60/6 situation with the bat.

 

Chahar has potential but again hasn’t done anything with the bat except that 1 odi knock


 

Bhuvi- first let him last 3 high intensity games in a row 

 

Axar is decent and a fine bowler  but more like a wildcard and not a consistent player 

 

Have never seen Harshal bat. His bowling well enjoy the ride but it’s going to come crashing shortly 

 

Vijay Shankar - well need I say more?

 

we are better off with specialists than such allrounders. A couple of names in the above list  are good enough as specialists in one skill but they can’t be called allrounders.

It’s a stretch.

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1.  Goods LOI teams would have 3 all-rounders from 6 to 8, with a batsman keeper in the top 5.

 

2.  Good teams would have a backup for all critical positions.

 

6. Hardik ... backup Venkatesh

7. Jadeja ... backup Axar

8. Shardul ... backup Chahar

 

Backups could be in the main squad or in the reserves.

 

This would be ideal.

 

1. Rohit

2. Venkatesh

3. Kohli

4. Rahul

5. Pant

6. Hardik

7. Jadeja

8. Chahar

 

Can be our line-up if Hardik is not bowling.

 

Venkatesh' s inexperience should not be an issue. We have seen youngsters like Yuvraj, Zaheer, Joginder play crucial roles as rookies in big tournaments.

 

 

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Every player serves a particular purpose , if u dnt have that player find another player who can do the role of the guy he can replace

Dnt look at this in a way that we are missing all rounder-look at what role ur missing and find a player for it or make 2 players do that role 

 

 

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46 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Venkatesh' s inexperience should not be an issue. We have seen youngsters like Yuvraj, Zaheer, Joginder play crucial roles as rookies in big tournaments.

 

 

You must have seen him bowling in domestic, I haven't. T20 is the most testing format for 6th bowlers. That's why I am not sure about him. He inspires confidence with his body language though.

 

Don't compare with Yuvraj. He played in a different era. Part timers were successful in those times. Iyer will not have Ganguly and Sachin at the other end to bowl.

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42 minutes ago, express bowling said:

1.  Goods LOI teams would have 3 all-rounders from 6 to 8, with a batsman keeper in the top 5.

 

2.  Good teams would have a backup for all critical positions.

 

6. Hardik ... backup Venkatesh

7. Jadeja ... backup Axar

8. Shardul ... backup Chahar

 

Backups could be in the main squad or in the reserves.

 

This would be ideal.

 

1. Rohit

2. Venkatesh

3. Kohli

4. Rahul

5. Pant

6. Hardik

7. Jadeja

8. Chahar

 

Can be our line-up if Hardik is not bowling.

 

Venkatesh' s inexperience should not be an issue. We have seen youngsters like Yuvraj, Zaheer, Joginder play crucial roles as rookies in big tournaments.

 

 

Not sure how Venkatesh will do at no. 6, I don't think including him just to get 2 overs is a good move, we shoul play 5 bowlers instead. All they need to bowl is a 24 balls. 

We can have a specialist batsman at 6 that way. 

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Just now, Adamant said:

Not sure how Venkatesh will do at no. 6, I don't think including him just to get 2 overs is a good move, we shoul play 5 bowlers instead. All they need to bowl is a 24 balls. 

We can have a specialist batsman at 6 that way. 

 

you need 6 bowling options in case one gets hit/injured.

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1 minute ago, Chakdephatte said:

You must have seen him bowling in domestic, I haven't. T20 is the most dangerous format for 6th bowlers. That's why I am not sure about him.

 

Don't compare with Yuvraj. He played in a different era. Part timers were successful in those times. Iyer will not have Ganguly and Sachin at the other end to bowl.

What has Yuvraj done in t20is, I mean as a bowler. 

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Just now, Lord said:

 

you need 6 bowling options in case one gets hit/injured.

That happens once in a blue moon, especially in a t20, can't make a lineup based on that, just ask Rohit or Virat to bowl one over each in that case, remember Kohli bowled in t20 Wc 2016 too. 

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4 minutes ago, Adamant said:

That happens once in a blue moon, especially in a t20, can't make a lineup based on that, just ask Rohit or Virat to bowl one over each in that case, remember Kohli bowled in t20 Wc 2016 too. 

 

1 bowler getting smashed is common. We'll forced to complete his overs which can cost us even more.

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