Test cricket tests your technique, temperament, patience, character ....it is the the "real" test. What is the basis of this judgement by cricket old-timers and aficionados ?

[rangeelaraja]

4 minutes ago, Adamant said:

Out of the three you listed only one actually transformed from odi to tests player, that explains a lot about your intellectual honesty. 

David Warner ka example hi ghumate raho har jagah bas. 

 

 

Looks like Arnold's glasses have made you blind.

 

Sehwag too was drafted as an ODI specialist when he made his India debut.  He never even opened in first class cricket.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Jay]

8 hours ago, Adamant said:

Arreeh

Yes my theory compared specialist test players with physicists 

Dunno why you aren't getting it. 

Yes I get it but tests players get paid well lol. U seen English players and Aussies? All 1 Mil plus contracts. He'll indian test players get multiple bonuses plus notoriety and add money. 

[Jay]

3 hours ago, rangeelaraja said:

 

Looks like Arnold's glasses have made you blind.

 

Sehwag too was drafted as an ODI specialist when he made his India debut.  He never even opened in first class cricket.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

A player who has most shots in his arsenal can play well in any format as long as he has the power and patience game. Stokes for example. 

[rangeelaraja]

1 hour ago, Jay said:

A player who has most shots in his arsenal can play well in any format as long as he has the power and patience game. Stokes for example. 

Agreed 100 %.

 

Which is why with a limited stroke arsenal - one can succeed a great deal in Test cricket with good technique.
 

But one cannot succeed a great deal in modern LOI with a limited arsenal of strokes.

 

 

[Jay]

1 hour ago, rangeelaraja said:

Agreed 100 %.

 

Which is why with a limited stroke arsenal - one can succeed a great deal in Test cricket with good technique.
 

But one cannot succeed a great deal in modern LOI with a limited arsenal of strokes.

 

 

Short ball is key. Play that well then you are half way there to becoming either a test or odi player. 

 

Then you need power, patience. 

 

Odi, since its played on pattas with only one short ball rule per over, makes it a bit easier imo. However, to excel? You need stroke play ability, power and ability to clear boundaries. 

 

The latter not so necessary for tests because you need more endurance rather than power. In tight scoring games perhaps power can come into play in tests. But not absolutely necessary. 

 

Moving ball is to do with temperament. You either have it or you don't unfortunately. Maybe county stint can help. 

[YixingLao]

Hmm I kind of agree to that based on what I have observed. If you haven't noticed, there are a lot of drama around Test cricket as well. It is as if it is a huge part of the cricket culture... you know, that there is a drama with every league or even match. Well, this is one of the reasons why there are a lot of articles about cricket games.

[Vilander]

On 10/10/2021 at 2:40 AM, rangeelaraja said:

1) Technique, Temperament,  Patience, Character  = Test cricket

 

 

2) Temperament to break down a run chase targeting specific bowlers,  skill to slog successfully at will, skill to  steal a game with quick singles and twos, skills to play scoop shot, switch hit ..etc    = LOI cricket ( ODIS + T20 )

 

 

 

If  1  is more valuable than  2  ( I wonder what is the basis of this judgement by cricket old-timers and aficionados )

 

........then the likes of VVS, Steve Waugh, Justin Langer..perhaps Dravid...all great Test batsmen should have been smash hits on LOI cricket.  But they were ok to mediocre. ..

 

The reality is that  the brute batting skills/talent required for LOI are significantly more than Test cricket.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 10/10/2021 at 2:58 AM, Chakdephatte said:

Bull's eye. This is a cliché statement used by buddhas(not in a bad taste) who, at best, played or watched cricket in the '80s. Some people say it just to sound intellectual. "Cricket is not for entertainment" is their only defense, which, if you ask me, is BS.

 

Limited overs cricket forces one to change his natural style. You may need to chase 250 in 50 overs someday and 350 the other. In tests, you can play the way you want to. In tests, you need technique and temperament, and not talent. Even bowlers need to keep evolving, otherwise they will become predictable. Test format is more testing and requires better stamina, but not the hardest to adapt.

 

I like test cricket but these cricket pundits are unnecessary disrespecting LOI cricket. Sooner or later, LOI will take precedence for everyone.

 

not same pitch

not same ball

no field restrictions 

no constraint on number of overs from best bowler

 

not same game 

 

still rookies.

[Gollum]

No other format comes close. 

[New guy]

So apparently, this is a thread on ICF