Temujin Khaghan Posted May 12, 2008 Posted May 12, 2008 Based on the people's views here... Mishra should be used now. Chawla should be developed for later, when he primes up.
youngindia Posted May 12, 2008 Posted May 12, 2008 But Indian selectors' crazy obsession with youth where someone past 23 is considered too old to have a long term career will mean that Mishra will hardly ever be picked. one of the stupidest comments i have ever seen. the quality of chawla's line and length is easily superior right from the juniors. It immediately caught my eye when i watched him first.amit's quality makes no such impression. contrary to what you think, indian selectors waste a lot of time giving chances to guys of distinctly mediocre talent like dinesh mongia based "on FC". name any over 25 FC batting talent equal to rohit. or any FC bowling talent equal to ishant. you can easily see why youth is preferred. because the fringe players like mongia and sriram have long proved to be flops.
varun Posted May 12, 2008 Posted May 12, 2008 one of the stupidest comments i have ever seen. Hyperbole much ?
The Outsider Posted May 12, 2008 Author Posted May 12, 2008 one of the stupidest comments i have ever seen. the quality of chawla's line and length is easily superior right from the juniors. It immediately caught my eye when i watched him first.amit's quality makes no such impression. Alright, to me Mishra's leg break appeared to have much more in it than Chawla's. I had also seen him in a couple of ODIs he played after the 2003 WC. Not sure what's so impressive about Chawla, he is a decent bowler and has pulled in a handful of good ODI performances at the international level but was pretty tripe in the 2 tests he played on pitches which were a spinner's wet dream. So much so, that the respective skippers hardly used him.
Zakhmi Posted May 12, 2008 Posted May 12, 2008 Learn your GD facts dude... Mishra's also played a bit of international cricket back when Chawla was still trying to break into the U19 side. Oops, my mistake...I didn't know that. But onething is for sure...if PC is given time and tips, he will emerge as a productive bowler who could bat a bit, too. If Mishra is so effective then he would also have been re-considered by now as Jumbo doesn't have much time with him.
youngindia Posted May 12, 2008 Posted May 12, 2008 Not sure what's so impressive about Chawla' date=' he is a decent bowler and has pulled in a handful of good ODI performances at the international level [/quote'] :omg: , the biomechanics as well the line and length. The superior quality stands out. Look at ishant. There is a superior quality to his action as well as line and length. you don't get to play so early and so often if you aint' impressive. but was pretty tripe in the 2 tests he played on pitches which were a spinner's wet dream. So much so, that the respective skippers hardly used him. he is just a rookie ! tailor your expectations accordingly. how was warne in the 2 tests in 1991?
gator Posted May 12, 2008 Posted May 12, 2008 :omg: , the biomechanics as well the line and length. The superior quality stands out. Look at ishant. There is a superior quality to his action as well as line and length. you don't get to play so early and so often if you aint' impressive. he is just a rookie ! tailor your expectations accordingly. how was warne in the 2 tests in 1991? Warnie still turned the ball a great deal in 1991.... it has been 2 years since piyush made his debut, he still cant turn his leg break more than yuvraj.... Amit is one of the bigger turners i have seen and in the end, tht is the critical thing for a wrist spinner unless u r a freak like kumble... Piyush, if he doesnt learn to turn the ball more, will be found out at the international level.....
The Outsider Posted May 12, 2008 Author Posted May 12, 2008 the biomechanics as well the line and length. The superior quality stands out. Okay, I am not any biomechanics expert. As for line and length, he is alright but more importantly doesn't have a lot of work on his leg break. He might become another Kumble ie. successful without turning it a lot but Kumble has been more of an exception as far as successful leg spinners go. he is just a rookie ! tailor your expectations accordingly. how was warne in the 2 tests in 1991? I am not expecting him to rip through line ups at such an early stage, but just feel that as of today Mishra is a much better bowler and deserves to be selected ahead of Chawla.
The Outsider Posted May 12, 2008 Author Posted May 12, 2008 Regarding the comparison with Warne, he did not get his first couple of chances on raging turners like Chawla did and neither did Chawla have to bowl to the likes of Shastri and Tendulkar on debut.
kumble_rocks Posted May 12, 2008 Posted May 12, 2008 In the couple of matches , I saw Misra bowl , I can definitely agree that he still has the stuff. But the issue is , is he mentally strong enough . His last over yesterday in tight situation certainly didn't seem like stuff from a mentally strong bowler.
flamy Posted May 12, 2008 Posted May 12, 2008 name any over 25 FC batting talent equal to rohit. or any FC bowling talent equal to ishant. you can easily see why youth is preferred. because the fringe players like mongia and sriram have long proved to be flops. Badrinath. :two_thumbs_up:
The Outsider Posted May 13, 2008 Author Posted May 13, 2008 In the couple of matches ' date=' I saw Misra bowl , I can definitely agree that he still has the stuff. But the issue is , is he mentally strong enough . His last over yesterday in tight situation certainly didn't seem like stuff from a mentally strong bowler.[/quote'] I am not saying Mishra is mentally strong - we just don't have evidence yet. Even Warne got hammered for 27 runs by Maharoof and they don't come much mentally stronger than Warne, such is the format of T20.
chanakya Posted May 13, 2008 Posted May 13, 2008 Chawla has a leg break? He bowls googlies most of the time
fineleg Posted May 13, 2008 Posted May 13, 2008 Chawla has a leg break? He bowls googlies most of the time he has one, but his leg break doesnt turn:dance:
varun Posted May 13, 2008 Posted May 13, 2008 Great over first up to Hussey. Had him totally bamboozled, and got a tough chance dropped off him by the keeper
Sachinism Posted May 13, 2008 Posted May 13, 2008 again didnt turn anything and then the googly that turned and the next ball which was dropped turned
umpire Posted May 13, 2008 Posted May 13, 2008 >another good over here by Legendary Dilli bowler. He doesn't play for Delhi in Ranji games? Is it?
Predator_05 Posted May 13, 2008 Posted May 13, 2008 He bats better than Chawla too, by the look of it.
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