Pakistan tour of Netherlands, 2022 - 3 ODIs - Aug 16 - Aug 21

[Axl100mph]

3 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Naseem is certainly skiddy like Shami...  Has definately improved.   However I think bringing him in T20s is a bad idea.  Either way he does has new ball skill. 

He was 10 kphs quicker 2 years ago before undoing the action tweak that was made to save his back.

He didn't find that comfortable so went back to the old action which is less efficient.  

 

Pretty disappointed if you ask me. He looked a world beating talent when he was bowling at 141-143  average pace. 

[Lone Wolf]

This probably will go down to the wire as it should 

[Ankit_sharma03]

9 hours ago, Axl100mph said:

He was 10 kphs quicker 2 years ago before undoing the action tweak that was made to save his back.

He didn't find that comfortable so went back to the old action which is less efficient.  

 

Pretty disappointed if you ask me. He looked a world beating talent when he was bowling at 141-143  average pace. 

if he can move the ball and be consistent even at 140-145k is enough to trouble any batter

Lacking control at 150k or bowling gun barrel straight at that pace wont help much 

[Lone Wolf]

4 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

he went and played in different leagues around the world, exposure only improves a player 

and about new ball skills , he had that from day-1 .............lacked consistency, stamina and experience . Playing in different conditions will only improve these things 

he has played in CPL, hundred, county 

 

Yep that helps...  More exposure at young age in different conditions.  A crash course of sorts.  BCCI should learn & at least send our upcoming fast bowlers to these leagues & county.  They are being wasted as of now. 

[Axl100mph]

2 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

if he can move the ball and be consistent even at 140-145k is enough to trouble any batter

Lacking control at 150k or bowling gun barrel straight at that pace wont help much 

Not just about speed...his allignment wont allow him to move the ball from the right angles,  also it will tire him out overtime leading to a reduction in pace. 

Edited August 21, 2022 by Axl100mph

[Lone Wolf]

Tuk Tuk for too long.. Dutch will rue that in the end. 

[Lord]

14 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

  

 

this one ?

 

 

yeah already shared above

[Lord]

4 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Yep that helps...  More exposure at young age in different conditions.  A crash course of sorts.  BCCI should learn & at least send our upcoming fast bowlers to these leagues & county.  They are being wasted as of now. 

 

for BCCI its all about making money even if team keeps losing

[Ankit_sharma03]

9 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

Yep that helps...  More exposure at young age in different conditions.  A crash course of sorts.  BCCI should learn & at least send our upcoming fast bowlers to these leagues & county.  They are being wasted as of now. 

 

 

yea they shud be allowed to play atleast some leagues that doesnt clash with our domestic- like hundred , CPL and everyone who is not playing in off season for any team shud aim for county contract. Guys like prasidh, umran and all other will progress far quicker . Someone like a prasidh will run riot in county and his stamina will increase too. Umran variation set will improve very quickly for LOI 

Edited August 21, 2022 by Ankit_sharma03

[Lord]

nearly run a ball now.

 

Too much for them

[Lone Wolf]

It's Cooper or bust now... 

[Lone Wolf]

Naseem winning it fir Pak...  Amazing display today

[Lord]

1 minute ago, Lone Wolf said:

Naseem winning it fir Pak...  Amazing display today

 

should have played him safely

[nitinbwj]

If Netherlands had one more international player, they would have won atleast 2 games. Some of their players are playing The Hundred. 

[nitinbwj]

Cooper can hit but he won't as there is no one to score even 10 runs after him. 

[Lone Wolf]

Game set match...  Pak having a jail break...  Ball is reversing for sure.. Arid pitch. 

[nitinbwj]

Chalo.. Game done and dusted. 

[Norman]

46 minutes ago, Frustrated said:

Well, going by your logic, nothing gives a clearer picture.    Coz India and Pak play odi once in a blue moon (maybe in WC ie 4 years).  And don't play tests at all.      So, there is no way to properly find out which is the better team in longer formats.    If at all we consider ODI and test rankings, there is not much to choose between these 2 teams.  And ranking can often be misleading.   We saw what happened in 2017 CT Final when 7th ranked Poyz beat 2nd ranked India by 188 runs.  

 

 

Lol you're now talking exactly like those delusional poyzz fans now. 

 

We won 5 out of the last 6 ODIs against them. If that doesn't give a "clear picture", I don't know what does. And even after their defeat to Australia at home and draws to SL and WI, you think they're anywhere close to our test side? 

 

There's no need for two teams to play each other to know the gap in talent and potential. England and Zimbabwe haven't played an international game in decades, you're gonna say we "can't" properly find out which is the better team? 

 

 

[nitinbwj]

Naseem Shah and Md Waseem can be effective if tha ball does something. Naseem has pace and is very accurate.Can easily take out KL and Lolhi. 

[Lone Wolf]

Also means the three pacers which we will face are likely going to be Naseem Rauf Wasim Jnr..