India's current batting stops at 7

[Lord]

3 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

I can show even in India too 

New kookabura under light will always do rest depends on pitch how much zip it will give. A place like sydney wont but perth wud 

 

 

Even if opposition is batting 1st they always have the pressure to make huge score

and as far defending low total goes for that u need someone who can blow away a team which once even binny did 

Its not that easy anyways even starc-hazelwood cudnt defend their low total against Zimbabwe recently 

 

 

now look at eco diff

 

Bhuvi 6.95

boult 8.08 (not a death bowler but he hurts his team in death unlike bhuvi which RR found out)

hazelwood 7.23

starc 7.55 (he takes a lot of wkts at death )

 

 

All names play in much better home condition for fast bowling apart from bhuvi , Eco is very important in t20 bhuvi is giving you.  U gave condition ki excuse in england but also swings in australia and nz then consider that advantage for those 3 guys whose home condition is that

 

He is falling short but he is still giving u advantage of economy 

 

Again where is he hurting you  and who are these better option who ll give wkts and also maintain the eco . Starc , hazelwood ki baaten to hum aise karte jaise humare pass hai

The right thing is to compare them to shami and siraj since u want to bring on starc-hazelwood logic 

 

And I never denied his economy or that he's bad bowler or should be dropped.hes in our best two easily

 

Point was about wicket taking especially with new ball only.

 

Bhuvi swings the ball, so its not about conditions or lack of swing at all. Its about utilising it to take wickets or build dots.First one will concede more runs but also can cause land crucial blows early on. 

 

Why should I compare with Shami/Siraj when my whole point was that we dont have new ball wicket takers. Never said we dont have economical bowlers or they dont have their advantages.

 

Did I say I have a better solution?

3 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

 

Nattu 1 season hi raha

Steyn was on off kind of bowler in t20

Rashid is the only one but bhuvi builds pressure 1st and then rashid comes 

 

 

U have a better solution then them ??

 

Bumrah has 69 wkts in 58 games but u wont call him wkt taker , starc ull call with 63 in 51

 

Already said Bumrah started very well. But 'offlate' hes also doing same thing. 10 wickets in 8 games in last 2 years if you want to look at numbers.Again not denying the eco value they bring

 

Maybe its team strategy but safety first approach.You need someone to sustain pressure with this approach which rarely works in Intl.

3 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

 

They bowl defensively in ODI not t20 , dont mix formats 

 

They bowl similarly. It works in T20 because batsmen have less time to take risk of playing them out

3 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

 

Hardik is doing it and i dont see anyone better then him in India currently for that job 

Siraj se acha wo job bumrah karlega 

 

Problem with siraj has been his bad days are so bad so bad that u just cant hide him. His overall t20 record overshadows his 2 good seasons to scare anyone 

 

 

bhuvi-bumrah- arshdeep are all phase

harshal - 2 phase

Chahar - one phase 

avesh - 3 phase (not in form ) vs siraj 3 phase ( not in form in IPL ) ....................buri form men sab gande dikhte hai 

 

Dont have much hopes from Avesh even if he hits form. Siraj OTOH can win games on his own.

3 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

 

 

Their is no rule that axar cant go ahead , if axar can do better then him why not 

DK cant do that , dont even try ...............he has issues against leggies so dont throw him against them. He has been bought in this team to counter high pace hard length which hardik cant so keep him for that . If he falls to spin the ploy has no meaning

 

DK is not that bad vs spin.

 

Axar also ended up wasting deliveries whenever he was promoted ahead of DK.DK can also rotate strike atleast vs them.

3 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

 

Short ball wasnt very comfertable , even if you see his 100 in SA ull see when he pulled wasnt in total command. 

Brutal vs spin only when in slot. teams started bowling away from him which is why he started failing in IPL.........

 

 

Reflexes went off late his downfall started within in few years coz he didnt grow and teams worked him out . 

 

hardik - samad these are the best power players rest are mostly range players or strong vs one particular type of bowling 

Yes we dont have 'beasts' Samad should have been developed better.

[vvvslaxman]

55 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Bishnoi is a brilliant fielder. Need to continue to work on his batting.

 

With his frame he is not going to be a powerful hitter. He can chip in here and there, hold his own defending balls unless he evolves like Abhishek sharma

[Ankit_sharma03]

9 hours ago, Lord said:

DK is not that bad vs spin.

currently he is , RCB use to keep him in hut till leggies were done 

dont be surprised if you see adil rashid coming in death to bowl against him in future since Cricviz works with england they were the one who cracked his best entry point 

[Lord]

8 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

With his frame he is not going to be a powerful hitter. He can chip in here and there, hold his own defending balls unless he evolves like Abhishek sharma

 

Abhishek was always a batting AR.

 

Bishnoi at best can play at 8.

[vvvslaxman]

3 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

currently he is , RCB use to keep him in hut till leggies were done 

dont be surprised if you see adil rashid coming in death to bowl against him in future since Cricviz works with england they were the one who cracked his best entry point 

 

He is not terrible. He has back cut and sweep shot. Probably not as fluent with lofted shots as he has to make the power.  He can hold his own. But can't expect big overs from him against spin. 

[Ankit_sharma03]

10 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

He is not terrible. He has back cut and sweep shot. Probably not as fluent with lofted shots as he has to make the power.  He can hold his own. But can't expect big overs from him against spin. 

he is tentative now, he was actually good but being tentative doesnt help which was dhoni problem also who use to hit spinners for fun

[Suhaan]

3 minutes ago, MultiB48 said:

They also need to be mentally tough ,down the order you will invariably be under pressure ,even top batsmen want to avoid  those situations.

True,but these guys are capable of bowling opening overs and can hit big

Up until now we lacked this kind of bowlers who could tonk too

Chahr Thakur come to mind but they look format specific

 

There is a massive phase difference between u19 domestics and internationals but still you have got the resources and we don't need to loose their extra ability with the bat in their road to national team

[IndianRenegade]

14 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Ur two dimensional hacks also cant be avg coz bowling looses u games . Thakur for all his batting is a geniune match looser with ball

is he worse than Avesh? at least thakur can bat.

[Ankit_sharma03]

10 hours ago, IndianRenegade said:

is he worse than Avesh? at least thakur can bat.

Avesh is in horrible form , in bad form every one is terrible 

In that case to an answer to someone worse cant be a lill less worse guy, better options are there