rkt.india Posted January 8, 2023 Posted January 8, 2023 12 minutes ago, putrevus said: I think window for Bumrah being a top tier bowler might have closed.He is getting injured very often. He needs to be fit for BG trophy and hopefully ICC test finals where he will finally deliver in a crunch match. Bumrah is just 29. He still has a long career ahead and injuries are part of a fast bowler's career. They don't necessarily hinder a fast bowler from becoming a top bowler if he works hard. Vijy and express bowling 2
putrevus Posted January 8, 2023 Posted January 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Bumrah is just 29. He still has a long career ahead and injuries are part of a fast bowler's career. They don't necessarily hinder a fast bowler from becoming a top bowler if he works hard. I hope you are right but since 2020 he has been more out than in for Indian team.As injuries keep mounting coming from them becomes harder.
rkt.india Posted January 8, 2023 Posted January 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, putrevus said: I hope you are right but since 2020 he has been more out than in for Indian team.As injuries keep mounting coming from them becomes harder. At the age of 28-29, by around 2010, Anderson had gone through similar injury issues and no one could thought he would take 600 wickets in test cricket. He wasn't as good back then as Bumrah is now at around the same age. Bumrah can still have 5-6 good years ahead. Vijy 1
putrevus Posted January 8, 2023 Posted January 8, 2023 1 minute ago, rkt.india said: At the age of 28-29, by around 2010, Anderson had gone through similar injury issues and no one could thought he would take 600 wickets in test cricket. He wasn't as good back then as Bumrah is now at around the same age. Bumrah can still have 5-6 good years ahead. Four things work in his favor 1. Anderson is freak . 2. He plays in England where his ability to swing plays more important role than his speed. 3.England play more test cricket than any other team. 4. Unlike Bumrah Anderson plays only test cricket so he has enough time to recoup from niggles before they turn into injuries. Bumrah with reduced pace might not be as effective as Anderson in Indian conditions and he plays all formats along with IPL. Too much work load.
express bowling Posted January 8, 2023 Posted January 8, 2023 35 minutes ago, putrevus said: I think window for Bumrah being a top tier bowler might have closed.He is getting injured very often. He needs to be fit for BG trophy and hopefully ICC test finals where he will finally deliver in a crunch match. Bumrah has had just 3 injuries in his 7 year long career so far. 2016, 2019, 2022. Pretty normal for a quick bowler. Mosher 1
MK55 Posted January 8, 2023 Posted January 8, 2023 I think Bumrah will be fine. He definitely won’t compromise on pace that I’m sure off. That’s just life these days as a fast bowler as a byproduct of the volume of cricket that’s been played. Yes, he’s probably more susceptible coz of his action. but if he gets injured again, it’s gonna be the same drill. Rest, recover and come back strong one more time. express bowling 1
MK55 Posted January 8, 2023 Posted January 8, 2023 It is tougher to come back when you still haven’t made a mark at the international stage. But for someone like Bumrah, that’s not the case. express bowling 1
Vijy Posted January 8, 2023 Posted January 8, 2023 I think bumrah still has about 4 years left in him at the top level. however, it is necessary to start prepping likes of kartik tyagi to take over. up to 19-20, tyagi was a better bowler than bumrah was at the same age. and tyagi has only just turned 22. express bowling 1
Need4Speed Posted January 8, 2023 Posted January 8, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, ZEIV said: Sir Don has shown enough skills with the ball to replace Bumrah to be our front-choice bowler. Notice how he has now developed an outswinger and in swinger which he can use when he bowls his full quota of overs when the match is dead, He is good for a spell or so but anytime he puts more back..it concerns me about hurting his back again.. Pandya has yet to prove a lot if he wants to replace Bumrah.. Bumrah is still miles ahead of him.. But yes he is easily closing doors for Bhuvi.. Edited January 8, 2023 by Need4Speed express bowling 1
SRT100 Posted January 8, 2023 Posted January 8, 2023 9 hours ago, express bowling said: The only way to be match fit and stay that way, is to play lots of matches. Agree. What really should be happening with Bumrah is that he slowly builds up to bowling 10 overs per match. First match should be used to bowl 6-8 overs, then 8 overs than 10 overs. The result of the meaningless irrelevant bilateral series is insignificant. The 6th bowler in the team should be bowling whatever Bumrah does not bowl. Thats how you condition and bring a player back. express bowling 1
Vijy Posted January 8, 2023 Posted January 8, 2023 1 hour ago, SRT100 said: Agree. What really should be happening with Bumrah is that he slowly builds up to bowling 10 overs per match. First match should be used to bowl 6-8 overs, then 8 overs than 10 overs. The result of the meaningless irrelevant bilateral series is insignificant. The 6th bowler in the team should be bowling whatever Bumrah does not bowl. Thats how you condition and bring a player back. that's why he should play ranjis and/or county cricket. SRT100 1
speedracer Posted January 8, 2023 Posted January 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Vijy said: that's why he should play ranjis and/or county cricket. County would do him wonders. He should look to play county. Zak khan was average before he played counties. He used to average around 37 before playing counties. Then he averaged around 25 from 2005-2011. Vijy 1
Vijy Posted January 8, 2023 Posted January 8, 2023 Just now, speedracer said: County would do him wonders. He should look to play county. Zak khan was average before he played counties. He used to average around 37 before playing counties. Then he averaged around 25 from 2005-2011. yes, zaheer improved after playing counties. boom does not need to improve, but it will be useful bowling practice.
SRT100 Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 4 hours ago, Vijy said: that's why he should play ranjis and/or county cricket. Indian Cricket has reached a stupid stage, where players are now too proud to play for their state.
speedracer Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Vijy said: yes, zaheer improved after playing counties. boom does not need to improve, but it will be useful bowling practice. He is an atg bowler. Yes. But county us easier on the body. Good weather. Good pitches. Or play ranji on dead wickets. Ranji makes you strong and fit.
Vijy Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 1 hour ago, SRT100 said: Indian Cricket has reached a stupid stage, where players are now too proud to play for their state. too big for their boots, as we say. at least in the case of fast bowlers, I understand why they may not play - workload management - but batters have no excuses SRT100 1
Vijy Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 1 hour ago, speedracer said: He is an atg bowler. Yes. But county us easier on the body. Good weather. Good pitches. Or play ranji on dead wickets. Ranji makes you strong and fit. not undercutter, harshal, dhawal kulkarni, rishi dhawan, booba, et.c all of whom are not strong
gattaca Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 Man BCCI has serious issues regarding fitness. They need make some changes to whoever gives a pass for fitness. express bowling 1
speedracer Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 2 hours ago, SRT100 said: Indian Cricket has reached a stupid stage, where players are now too proud to play for their state. Definitely. Yet you see aussie players play shield. Vijy 1
gattaca Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, SRT100 said: Indian Cricket has reached a stupid stage, where players are now too proud to play for their state. Not too proud. Where is the time ? We play IPL like 4 months , tests , Odis and t20s. These guys have families apart from cricket. If cricket takes like 9 months of their life in year. I am ok with them spending time with family. Edited January 9, 2023 by gattaca
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