Vijy Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 21 hours ago, speedracer said: Pant is better than all of them barring gavaskar in my opinion. Don't think we will ever have 50 plus averaging guys and it's better than way. Don't want superstars. Rather a bunch of team players who average lower than 50 but are match winners and not stat padders. why should we not aim for or have batters with 50+ avg who are matchwinners? there are quite a few in history - Viv (and barry) richards, greg chappati, kallis, stewie smith, etc. SRT100 1
Chakdephatte Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, Vijy said: why should we not aim for or have batters with 50+ avg who are matchwinners? there are quite a few in history - Viv (and barry) richards, greg chappati, kallis, stewie smith, etc. Why do I think you intentionally missed some popular names. Sachin, Lara, Dravid, Border, etc.
Vijy Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Chakdephatte said: Why do I think you intentionally missed some popular names. Sachin, Lara, Dravid, Border, etc. one can cite every batter above 50 if one wants. also sunny G, ponting, bradman, sobers, etc. Chakdephatte 1
Chakdephatte Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 Just now, Vijy said: one can cite every batter above 50 if one wants. also sunny G, ponting, bradman, sobers, etc. Was just curious to know your definition of 'matchwinner'. Haha. For me, every batsman averaging this high must have more than match winning innings. Matchwinners with middling averages are rare. Vijy 1
Vijy Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Chakdephatte said: Was just curious to know your definition of 'matchwinner'. Haha. For me, every batsman averaging this high must have more than match winning innings. Matchwinners with middling averages are rare. yes, most batters with > 50 avg usually have higher-than-career avgs in wins. drabid at some point had an avg of nearly 70 in wins. sanga also had a high avg.
Majestic Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 On 1/4/2023 at 6:28 PM, Adamant said: I think Jaiswal is the prime contender here. On 1/4/2023 at 9:03 PM, Vijy said: none as far as I can tell - jasiwal is perhaps the closest. I still have hopes sarfaraz can be a very good player, albeit not a great player. From Gill and Shaw, people have moved on now to Jaiswal. 2-3 years later, it will be Yash Dhull. Actually Yash Dhull isn't even rated as highly for his batting prowess as Gill/Shaw/Jaiswal used to be so maybe we will have to wait to see whom we can move on to.
Chakdephatte Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, Majestic said: From Gill and Shaw, people have moved on now to Jaiswal. 2-3 years later, it will be Yash Dhull. Actually Yash Dhull isn't even rated as highly for his batting prowess as Gill/Shaw/Jaiswal used to be so maybe we will have to wait to see whom we can move on to. He is just as good. In fact, Varma and Jaiswal were the weakest bunch, ability wise, for LOIs. Turns out they hsd the best temperament as well.
Vijy Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Majestic said: From Gill and Shaw, people have moved on now to Jaiswal. 2-3 years later, it will be Yash Dhull. Actually Yash Dhull isn't even rated as highly for his batting prowess as Gill/Shaw/Jaiswal used to be so maybe we will have to wait to see whom we can move on to. priyanshu moliya is 17, started well in ranjis and bowls quite a bit. too early of course to tell how his career will develop Chakdephatte 1
Chakdephatte Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 Just now, Vijy said: priyanshu moliya is 17, started well in ranjis and bowls quite a bit. too early of course to tell how his career will develop Being a gujrati means the path can be smooth for him. If he performs, off course.
Vijy Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 musheer khan is another 17 y.o. who has promise (and also bowls to an extent). didn't go well in his first ranji match, but was not completely bad either - against a strong team on a bowling-friendly pitch.
rkt.india Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 an unsettled team is unlikely to create great batsmen. either you have great batsmen or journeyman first class cricketers. cant have both.
speedracer Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 3 hours ago, Vijy said: why should we not aim for or have batters with 50+ avg who are matchwinners? there are quite a few in history - Viv (and barry) richards, greg chappati, kallis, stewie smith, etc. We won't have any.
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