Tracking the progress of the Young Indian Special batsmen ( Gill, Pant, Jaiswal, Shaw .... names will be added )

[vvvslaxman]

4 minutes ago, Lord said:

Why this doesnt apply to Rohit? Captain can't be fat himself and ask for slim players

 

That guys is an established fat lol Upcoming fat will be treated differently 

[Vijy]

Sarfaraz is unfortunately quite useless vs 140K pace. I used to be a big supporter of him; now, I believe he is a lot more limited than I expected. can still avg around 45 by scoring heavily at home, in SC, and on flat pitches.

 

Moving on, Gill is truly demonstrating that he is a flat pitch expert. should not be opening in tests for sure, and might even not warrant a place in tests given his LOI excellence

[Jay]

5 hours ago, Vijy said:

Sarfaraz is unfortunately quite useless vs 140K pace. I used to be a big supporter of him; now, I believe he is a lot more limited than I expected. can still avg around 45 by scoring heavily at home, in SC, and on flat pitches.

 

Moving on, Gill is truly demonstrating that he is a flat pitch expert. should not be opening in tests for sure, and might even not warrant a place in tests given his LOI excellence

Middle order would do him good. 

[Vijy]

3 hours ago, Jay said:

Middle order would do him good. 

dunno, he seems like a sitting duck on most pitches with something in it for bowlers in tests

[Lord]

15 hours ago, Vijy said:

Sarfaraz is unfortunately quite useless vs 140K pace. I used to be a big supporter of him; now, I believe he is a lot more limited than I expected. can still avg around 45 by scoring heavily at home, in SC, and on flat pitches.

 

Moving on, Gill is truly demonstrating that he is a flat pitch expert. should not be opening in tests for sure, and might even not warrant a place in tests given his LOI excellence

 

That can be worked upon. What's the batting coach there for.

 

Otherwise hes quite good v spin and relatively free scoring player

[Vijy]

4 hours ago, Lord said:

 

That can be worked upon. What's the batting coach there for.

 

Otherwise hes quite good v spin and relatively free scoring player

not really. most Ind players who were bad vs quick pace (azhar, gangu, raina) remained bad for the most part

[Lord]

2 hours ago, Vijy said:

not really. most Ind players who were bad vs quick pace (azhar, gangu, raina) remained bad for the most part

still had good careers. Especially Gangu and Azhar in Tests

[Vijy]

4 minutes ago, Lord said:

still had good careers. Especially Gangu and Azhar in Tests

yes, but they did little of note in SA and Oz barring isolated knocks. I agree sarfaraz can be that kind of player too. should do well enough in SC, WI, and maybe Eng/NZ if not green pitches

[Lord]

Just now, Vijy said:

yes, but they did little of note in SA and Oz barring isolated knocks. I agree sarfaraz can be that kind of player too. should do well enough in SC, WI, and maybe Eng/NZ if not green pitches

Pujara/Rahane have also failed in 2 out of 4 SENA countries

[Vijy]

2 minutes ago, Lord said:

Pujara/Rahane have also failed in 2 out of 4 SENA countries

do you want a rahane level bat? that's not a high standard to aim for. it's a bit higher than chetan chauhan IMO

[Lord]

3 minutes ago, Vijy said:

do you want a rahane level bat? that's not a high standard to aim for. it's a bit higher than chetan chauhan IMO

no but should be enough to replace them. They played whole career like this

[Vijy]

15 minutes ago, Lord said:

no but should be enough to replace them. They played whole career like this

yes, sarfaraz is ok with me.

 

no. 1 ??

no. 2 jaiswal

no. 3 ??

no. 4 gill

no. 5 sarfaraz

no. 6 pant

 

would like to see sundar somewhere in the mix. if he can return well from injuries and rediscover batting form, he can even play in top order

[Vijy]

As expected, Gill makes a flashy 20(25). should play in MO (and maybe not even be persisted with in tests)

[Lord]

1 hour ago, Vijy said:

As expected, Gill makes a flashy 20(25). should play in MO (and maybe not even be persisted with in tests)

I am all for picking him and another youngsters instead of seniors

 

Jaiswal

Ruturaj

Gill

Sarfaraz

Rinku

 

That should be the order going forward. Thats the best we have.

[vvvslaxman]

6 hours ago, Lord said:

I am all for picking him and another youngsters instead of seniors

 

Jaiswal

Ruturaj

Gill

Sarfaraz

Rinku

 

That should be the order going forward. Thats the best we have.

 

These clowns Pujara/Rohit/Kohli/Rahane remotely achieved anything like Tendulkar/Dravid/Laxman/Sehwag in Tests. Why are they not phasing them out.  Ideally all can be kicked out the same time. An year back Pujara and Rahane were out of the side. Now they are back. Never in the wildest dreams i expected Rahane to come abck.

[Vijy]

3 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

These clowns Pujara/Rohit/Kohli/Rahane remotely achieved anything like Tendulkar/Dravid/Laxman/Sehwag in Tests. Why are they not phasing them out.  Ideally all can be kicked out the same time. An year back Pujara and Rahane were out of the side. Now they are back. Never in the wildest dreams i expected Rahane to come abck.

did you expect in your wildest dreams to see ishant, boobi, dhawan return? you may get to see 1-2 of these return too

[Vijy]

11 hours ago, Lord said:

I am all for picking him and another youngsters instead of seniors

 

Jaiswal

Ruturaj

Gill

Sarfaraz

Rinku

 

That should be the order going forward. Thats the best we have.

seems like it, although I am not sure abour ruturaj and rinku. what about sundar? If he is injury free, he can play at 5 or 6

[singhvivek141]

12 hours ago, Lord said:

I am all for picking him and another youngsters instead of seniors

 

Jaiswal

Ruturaj

Gill

Sarfaraz

Rinku

 

That should be the order going forward. Thats the best we have.

Is it for overseas tests ?

 

Then I will go with

Jaiswal

Rohan Kunnummal/Abhimanyu Easwaran

Ruturaj

Gill

No 5 can be from Rinku, Baba Indrajith or even Hanuma Vihari. 

Hanuma Vihari can set perfectly in a team which has stroke players 1-4 and at 6 (Pant).

[express bowling]

Jaiswal batting 143 in his first test.

[wazza]

On 6/11/2023 at 8:44 AM, vvvslaxman said:

 

These clowns Pujara/Rohit/Kohli/Rahane remotely achieved anything like Tendulkar/Dravid/Laxman/Sehwag in Tests. Why are they not phasing them out.  Ideally all can be kicked out the same time. An year back Pujara and Rahane were out of the side. Now they are back. Never in the wildest dreams i expected Rahane to come abck.

True statement. 

If it wasn't for India's peak bowling attack which was the best from 2015 to about 2022, we wouldn't have been no 1 for 5 years. 

 

Also you could imagine how good india would be in 2002-2011 era had those batsmen like Sachin and co had the support of that pace attack of bharat arun.