U19 WC 2024 Discussion thread

[SRT100]

Another generation of absolute chokers for India being harvested for future World Cup's.

 

Shameless.

[Suhaan]

Did anyone listen to the Aussie kid?

He said had been preparing for this since last 1 year going to Eng and places

 

And we barely assembled as side since  starting August,no tours as far as I remember

This lot looks to be most unprepared,the sudden change of venue also played it's part

Original SL would have been a little more help

[Frustrated]

https://youtube.com/shorts/u8A4NrXbvyY?si=KCqxxD3e8D7HttAN.   Deep roasting of our entire generation of epic chokers....

[Frustrated]

Entire link ---> https://youtu.be/Ul72B8WGbhg?si=Mh46lhkpQw0xhrRl.  

[SRT100]

1 hour ago, Suhaan said:

Did anyone listen to the Aussie kid?

He said had been preparing for this since last 1 year going to Eng and places

 

And we barely assembled as side since  starting August,no tours as far as I remember

This lot looks to be most unprepared,the sudden change of venue also played it's part

Original SL would have been a little more help

 

I have said it before on here, performing at the right time in sport is so well ingrained into kids in Australia.

 

It stems from winter sports in particular Rugby, AFL and Soccer, where they understand the need to first qualify and then take their "game" to another level in finals.

 

With India its really just cricket as the main and only sport, I know there are others, but none are at the level of cricket. In Australia, kids get the opportunity in winter sports to perform in tournaments then in finals, so they carry this mindset and philosophy into summer cricket time. In many ways, kids in Australia grow up with multiple opportunities to test themselves in  finals in various fields before the cricket season has even begun.

 

That burden and choking mentality of performing in Cricket Finals is not an issue because kids have grown up with it from a very early stage.

[rollingstoned]

This team did well to make it to the finals so we should not be too harsh on them, also keeping in mind how the think tank chose to hamstring itself by not planni g properly or selecting the right players for the conditions. We did not deserve to win this one as we never looked like a team that is worthy of winning it. I will remember Dhas's batting fondly from this tournament, he was almost but not quite as conspicuous as Jaiswal was in that 2020 team as being the only one on whom the batting collectively relied on. 

[Soldier]

1 hour ago, SRT100 said:

Another generation of absolute chokers for India being harvested for future World Cup's.

 

Shameless.

tbf 2 - 1 h2h in u 19 in finals. india has the wood overall. 

[Soldier]

26 minutes ago, SRT100 said:

 

I have said it before on here, performing at the right time in sport is so well ingrained into kids in Australia.

 

It stems from winter sports in particular Rugby, AFL and Soccer, where they understand the need to first qualify and then take their "game" to another level in finals.

 

With India its really just cricket as the main and only sport, I know there are others, but none are at the level of cricket. In Australia, kids get the opportunity in winter sports to perform in tournaments then in finals, so they carry this mindset and philosophy into summer cricket time. In many ways, kids in Australia grow up with multiple opportunities to test themselves in  finals in various fields before the cricket season has even begun.

 

That burden and choking mentality of performing in Cricket Finals is not an issue because kids have grown up with it from a very early stage.

and tbf this was a crap team. dint get chances to integrate and gel. 

aussies came prepared. it is what it is. 

 

100% right. we are top notch at wasting resources. 

we never plan well for anything

 

have we ever planned for wtc finals?

twice we had the chance, we played no prep games. and lost

same with t20. no prep. just ipl and tired legs after. 

Edited February 12 by Soldier

[SRT100]

8 minutes ago, rollingstoned said:

This team did well to make it to the finals so we should not be too harsh on them, also keeping in mind how the think tank chose to hamstring itself by not planni g properly or selecting the right players for the conditions. We did not deserve to win this one as we never looked like a team that is worthy of winning it. I will remember Dhas's batting fondly from this tournament, he was almost but not quite as conspicuous as Jaiswal was in that 2020 team as being the only one on whom the batting collectively relied on. 

 

This is exactly the problem with Indian Cricket.

This the Dravid Mentality. We shouldnt be too harsh on them.

They choked, they lost. It doesnt matter, everything else is irrelevant.

 

 

Edited February 12 by SRT100

[rollingstoned]

Just now, SRT100 said:

 

This is exactly the problem with Indian Cricket.

This the Dravid Mentality. We shouldnt be too harsh on them.

They choked, they lost. It doesnt matter, everything else is irrelevant.

 

 

One needs to be realistic. I never expected them to win this from the time the tournament began. When you're not upto scratch there is no question of choking. 

[SRT100]

5 minutes ago, rollingstoned said:

One needs to be realistic. I never expected them to win this from the time the tournament began. When you're not upto scratch there is no question of choking. 

This is not directed at you, Im just sick and tired of every excuse India makes when losing.

Losing is never ever an option nor acceptable.

[rollingstoned]

2 minutes ago, SRT100 said:

This is not directed at you, Im just sick and tired of every excuse India makes when losing.

Losing is never ever an option nor acceptable.

Should also add lack of expectation is also because of a lack of faith in the coaching staff who I had no hope in making sure the kids punch beyond their weight to an extent that they can win the whole thing like what Shastri did in BGT 21.

[Suhaan]

46 minutes ago, SRT100 said:

 

I have said it before on here, performing at the right time in sport is so well ingrained into kids in Australia.

 

It stems from winter sports in particular Rugby, AFL and Soccer, where they understand the need to first qualify and then take their "game" to another level in finals.

 

With India its really just cricket as the main and only sport, I know there are others, but none are at the level of cricket. In Australia, kids get the opportunity in winter sports to perform in tournaments then in finals, so they carry this mindset and philosophy into summer cricket time. In many ways, kids in Australia grow up with multiple opportunities to test themselves in  finals in various fields before the cricket season has even begun.

 

That burden and choking mentality of performing in Cricket Finals is not an issue because kids have grown up with it from a very early stage.

No I meant they as a team have been preparing for this since last 1 year

[Suhaan]

7 minutes ago, rollingstoned said:

Should also add lack of expectation is also because of a lack of faith in the coaching staff who I had no hope in making sure the kids punch beyond their weight to an extent that they can win the whole thing like what Shastri did in BGT 21.

The camp was set itself in mid July to August

This was most underprepared u19 unlike batches before

Still I think they played well for the conditions as much wasn't expected either

[sensible-indian]

12 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

It's enjoyable for a time, but what to do when even these loses stop to have any effect on the TM.

After a while, you simply tune out and stop following.

 

I didn't even turn on the TV for India vs Pak Asia cup games.

 

Such is my apathy.

[Haarkarjeetgaye]

1 hour ago, SRT100 said:

 

I have said it before on here, performing at the right time in sport is so well ingrained into kids in Australia.

 

It stems from winter sports in particular Rugby, AFL and Soccer, where they understand the need to first qualify and then take their "game" to another level in finals.

 

With India its really just cricket as the main and only sport, I know there are others, but none are at the level of cricket. In Australia, kids get the opportunity in winter sports to perform in tournaments then in finals, so they carry this mindset and philosophy into summer cricket time. In many ways, kids in Australia grow up with multiple opportunities to test themselves in  finals in various fields before the cricket season has even begun.

 

That burden and choking mentality of performing in Cricket Finals is not an issue because kids have grown up with it from a very early stage.

To another level in the finals is the difference. India do not have such players. We go the other end in fact. prime example K L Rahul Jhanjhariya Anjali Dhadkan

[Vijy]

On 2/11/2024 at 10:20 AM, putrevus said:

You need secondary skills but it cannot come at the expense of your primary skill.

 

Bits and pieces players don't win anything in any format.

we have plenty of specialists who have won diddly squat like the choker bumrah. also fatman in LOIs.

 

first, we need good primary skill (agreed), but they need to develop a second string. and also be mentally strong

Edited February 13 by Vijy

[Vijy]

On 2/11/2024 at 10:07 AM, Frustrated said:

Musheer Khan is another highly overrated ****.   Flopped everytime the team needed him to stay at the crease. Proven choker in SF and Final.  

just like his brother. neither should be encouraged

[Vijy]

20 hours ago, SRT100 said:

 

I have said it before on here, performing at the right time in sport is so well ingrained into kids in Australia.

 

It stems from winter sports in particular Rugby, AFL and Soccer, where they understand the need to first qualify and then take their "game" to another level in finals.

 

With India its really just cricket as the main and only sport, I know there are others, but none are at the level of cricket. In Australia, kids get the opportunity in winter sports to perform in tournaments then in finals, so they carry this mindset and philosophy into summer cricket time. In many ways, kids in Australia grow up with multiple opportunities to test themselves in  finals in various fields before the cricket season has even begun.

 

That burden and choking mentality of performing in Cricket Finals is not an issue because kids have grown up with it from a very early stage.

the choker musheer and the choker saharan should not be near the ind team. fortunately, it will not happen

[nsareen]

let’s not be over critical of the boys, we need to cut some slack.. if it’s about choking in pressure games, let’s not forget the big contingent of team management who makes the decisions for these boys, they don’t have much autonomy at this level, they would have surely been told to curb instincts and play timidly till mid innings and that doesn’t always go well in crunch situations and against a quality bowling attack.. 

 

Irrespective it’s a collective failure and much of it should be attributed to pathetic preparations, selections and strategies by team management, if you don’t play players according to situations how can you expect the outcomes to be in your favour, till the semis it worked because every team they faced had 1 at the most 2 good bowlers, australia had 4 good seamers and 1 good spinner, chasing above 5 RPO never would have been easy, traditionally benoni has been a 1st batting wicket, out of 15 odd matches team batting  1st have won 10-12 of them.. enough said poor planning was faulty, boys are going to use this to improve from here on, i wouldn’t be surprised if a few of them become seriously good players and giants in the coming 3-5 years..