10 pilgrims killed as terrorists open fire at bus in J&K's Reasi

[coffee_rules]

43 minutes ago, FischerTal said:

 

budget should be increased for more Capex funding, not for more troops. the 2 lakh troops general bakshi is demanding will blow a major hole in our wallet. although I agree with you on one thing. agniveer retention rate should be increased to 45-50 percent. 25 percent doesnt cut it. also age of recruitment should be slightly increased. 

There is talk of increasing Agniveer term to 8-9 years to keep them in the force for longer time

[Lone Wolf]

Salute to these brave civilian VDG's ..  Terrorists trying to break their resolve by these acts.  Just imagine living under constant threat of militants 

 

 

[Lone Wolf]

@Gollum BAT attack in LoC...  Ye dekho Inka Ceasefire 

 

[Gollum]

2 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

@Gollum BAT attack in LoC...  Ye dekho Inka Ceasefire 

 

Can't think of a more lackluster regime in this country. Making UPA 2 look competent, deserve to get kicked out in 2029. 

[FischerTal]

13 hours ago, Gollum said:

Can't think of a more lackluster regime in this country. Making UPA 2 look competent, deserve to get kicked out in 2029. 

this will continue. I fully expect another 15-20 soldiers to die before snowfall starts in J&K. maybe more.

[Lone Wolf]

This is undeclared war on us ..  hundreds of Pak SSG have infiltrated    This regime has left India as unsafe as ever @Gollum  

 

[Gollum]

1 hour ago, Lone Wolf said:

This is undeclared war on us ..  hundreds of Pak SSG have infiltrated    This regime has left India as unsafe as ever @Gollum  

 

Un*ingbelievable. This is an open declaration of war. Godi media, BJ P trying to divert attention, cowards. 

[New guy]

On 7/27/2024 at 3:46 PM, Gollum said:

Can't think of a more lackluster regime in this country. Making UPA 2 look competent, deserve to get kicked out in 2029. 

It's easy to talk big while sitting in the opposition. In the end every party and government has been cowards. 

 

Also if this had been just before the election we would have seen lots of chest thumping and some action, because they only care about life of our soldiers and citizens when it's election time. Balakot airstrikes happened just before elections in 2019.

 

Edited July 29, 2024 by New guy

[randomGuy]

All one has to do is to post data from 25 yrs, serves as a slap to rumour mongers on the thread trying to down a govt. that has been nothing short of fantastic for internal and external security in this war infested world.

 

These guys blabbering in this thread are not even fit to polish the shoes of Ajit dobhal , are shameless enough to ask for his sacking... shameless individuals who deserve nothing.

 

 

And just FYI, 90% of civilian casualty are unfortunately Muslims as per data shared by satp.org since Muslim are residing in those areas.

[New guy]

28 minutes ago, randomGuy said:

All one has to do is to post data from 25 yrs, serves as a slap to rumour mongers on the thread trying to down a govt. that has been nothing short of fantastic for internal and external security in this war infested world.

 

These guys blabbering in this thread are not even fit to polish the shoes of Ajit dobhal , are shameless enough to ask for his sacking... shameless individuals who deserve nothing.

 

 

And just FYI, 90% of civilian casualty are unfortunately Muslims as per data shared by satp.org since Muslim are residing in those areas.

Wait, are you saying muslim lives dont matter? And are you serious here? You are playing bargaining over lives taken? How many army lives do you think are acceptable? 100? 1000? They are straight up targeting and attacking our army men here, have some shame.

 

See this is the exact thing i say about being a cult. Normal people, will criticize EVERY government regardless of which party they belong to when something like this happens. People in a cult care for their own party and leader more than their own country. Cults are literal brainwash parties. 

Edited July 29, 2024 by New guy

[randomGuy]

29 minutes ago, New guy said:

Wait, are you saying muslim lives dont matter? And are you serious here? You are playing bargaining over lives taken? How many army lives do you think are acceptable? 100? 1000? They are straight up targeting and attacking our army men here, have some shame.

 

See this is the exact thing i say about being a cult. Normal people, will criticize EVERY government regardless of which party they belong to when something like this happens. People in a cult care for their own party and leader more than their own country. Cults are literal brainwash parties. 

Abey chewtiye did you not read 'unfortunate' intentionally? every citizen life matters. satp.org shares civilian casualty religion wise, hence I shared FYI.

 

You and the other rats will do well to watch vids of Raja Muneeb n co. on def talks with Adi etc. to understand what sort of dire situation is there on other side of the border kpk, Balochistan, PoK etc. (probably have pity on pak. And admiration for Indian agencies) No matter what the rats on this thread do, India will win.

Edited July 29, 2024 by randomGuy

[Lone Wolf]

21 hours ago, randomGuy said:

Abey chewtiye did you not read 'unfortunate' intentionally? every citizen life matters. satp.org shares civilian casualty religion wise, hence I shared FYI.

 

You and the other rats will do well to watch vids of Raja Muneeb n co. on def talks with Adi etc. to understand what sort of dire situation is there on other side of the border kpk, Balochistan, PoK etc. (probably have pity on pak. And admiration for Indian agencies) No matter what the rats on this thread do, India will win.

Don't listen to those jhandu channels... Those guys struggle to differentiate even chenab valley Pir Panjal and Kashmir lol ..Watch this

 

Edited July 30, 2024 by Lone Wolf

[FischerTal]

On 7/28/2024 at 10:05 AM, Lone Wolf said:

This is undeclared war on us ..  hundreds of Pak SSG have infiltrated    This regime has left India as unsafe as ever @Gollum  

 

This is fake news. Even according to the army’s own internal assessment, there are around 50-60 terrorists in Jammu division.

[FischerTal]

21 hours ago, randomGuy said:

Abey chewtiye did you not read 'unfortunate' intentionally? every citizen life matters. satp.org shares civilian casualty religion wise, hence I shared FYI.

 

You and the other rats will do well to watch vids of Raja Muneeb n co. on def talks with Adi etc. to understand what sort of dire situation is there on other side of the border kpk, Balochistan, PoK etc. (probably have pity on pak. And admiration for Indian agencies) No matter what the rats on this thread do, India will win.

It used to be Muslims killing Muslims. Bow tactics have changed. They only target Hindus and after the Army deployment has increased, I expect them to target VDCs and Hindu villagers more because they are soft target.

[randomGuy]

41 minutes ago, FischerTal said:

This is fake news. Even according to the army’s own internal assessment, there are around 50-60 terrorists in Jammu division.

Rats lap up on everything to discredit the government....600 ssg aa gaye, china andar ghus gaya. Lol.

[Lone Wolf]

54 minutes ago, FischerTal said:

This is fake news. Even according to the army’s own internal assessment, there are around 50-60 terrorists in Jammu division.

Former DGP JKP SP vaid sir saying the same... I think numbers might be exaggerated but SSG involvement has been reported

 

 

[FischerTal]

33 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Former DGP JKP SP vaid sir saying the same... I think numbers might be exaggerated but SSG involvement has been reported

 

 

he is not wrong that Pakistan army behind attacks. im just disputing the numbers.

[Lone Wolf]

^^

Afaik SSG's won't directly attack they would likely set up tactics and logistics for terrorists & then go back to Pak.  So their numbers would be few

BAT action squads though do attack and then cross LoC instantly.

SP vaid sir also indicating GD Bakshi sir's point that not enough battalions are present... Due to Dhando salary bachao Yojana 

 

[FischerTal]

12 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

^^

Afaik SSG's won't directly attack they would likely set up tactics and logistics for terrorists & then go back to Pak.  So their numbers would be few

BAT action squads though do attack and then cross LoC instantly.

SP vaid sir also indicating GD Bakshi sir's point that not enough battalions are present... Due to Dhando salary bachao Yojana 

 

Bakshi wants a 1.8 lakh army. he is not in his senses.

 

guerilla tactics in this terrain are quite difficult to counter. only option is to hit back in PoK, which this govt does not want to do. 

[Lone Wolf]

1 hour ago, FischerTal said:

Bakshi wants a 1.8 lakh army. he is not in his senses.

 

guerilla tactics in this terrain are quite difficult to counter. only option is to hit back in PoK, which this govt does not want to do. 

Bakshi's strategy is a right one as he has actually served and fought and disposed terrorists in the region.  Drones don't actually work there per se... it's jungle warfare .The fact is folks like Gourav Arya too feel numbers are just not enough right now in Chenab valley and around.

Hitting back in PoK requires a dedicated 4.5 gen Squadron at least which we don't have.  IAF is in a very bad shape right now.

And with Chinese 5th Gen fighter planes in huge numbers sitting in Hotan base and Tibet we can't actually retaliate too much.

However we can always scrap Ceasefire and open heavy artillery and shelling.

That stupid Ceasefire is screwing us