Kohli - Greatest player in white-ball cricket!!!

[Kron]

2 minutes ago, Adamant said:

Obviously, why the fk is it even debatable?

 

The GOAT white ball player bar none.

Also the GOAT ASIAN TEST CAPTAIN

 

And that’s the bottom line

Yes he is the goat test captain. No doubt. Not just India's. He is top 3 goat test captain easy. His team is greater than smith's team of 2005 to 2013 era

 

But in LOI he wasn't a good captain. 

 

Goat white ball player? Better than richards, abd, bevan and GreenRidge? 

[Adamant]

1 hour ago, Kron said:

Yes he is the goat test captain. No doubt. Not just India's. He is top 3 goat test captain easy. His team is greater than smith's team of 2005 to 2013 era

 

But in LOI he wasn't a good captain. 

 

Goat white ball player? Better than richards, abd, bevan and GreenRidge? 

Richards is in contention for sure.

 

Pls take a look at abd’s t20 international record.

 

Even in odis Kohli has Abd beat coz of yhe number of iconic knocks, worldcup and Champions trophy performances.

 

Bevan? He is not in contention bro

 

Greenidge record in odis is not that great, look at his str rate,Zaheer Abbas was a better odi bat, again not in contention.

 

 

[Kron]

40 minutes ago, Adamant said:

Richards is in contention for sure.

 

Pls take a look at abd’s t20 international record.

 

Even in odis Kohli has Abd beat coz of yhe number of iconic knocks, worldcup and Champions trophy performances.

 

Bevan? He is not in contention bro

 

Greenidge record in odis is not that great, look at his str rate,Zaheer Abbas was a better odi bat, again not in contention.

 

 

Anant narayan of cricinfo did a stat check for greatest odi players. Think kohli came third. This was in 2022

 

But might have changed after the WC. 

 

Yea zaheer abbas is underrated. Statistically he had insane numbers. But he was weak vs bounce. I remember very well him struggling vs pace and bounce. 

 

Kohli abd is close in odi. Virat had better teams in 2019 and 2023

 

But abd had a better team in 2015

 

India were slightly better in 2011. Hard to compare. Both great players. 

 

In tests yes kohli is goat Asian captain. Greater than imran Khan easily. 

Probably top 3 of all time. Only punter and Lloyd are better

 

It's a shame kohli couldn't win a wtc although is a joke format tbh. 

[Need4Speed]

Kohli is a chasemaster for sure and has good mental strength…I have been his admirer…He fights and is agressive..

However, He shouldnt have played the last T20 wcup imo at the place of Jswal..

He was POTM in finals and I am very happy for him and us but still he wouldnt be in my t20 xi..

 

[Praveen 06]

Definitely loi atg

 

Only player to win 3 icc trophies n 3 Pott in icc tournaments. 

 

[Praveen 06]

kohli legacy bigger than anyone in international cricket.

 

Odis 

 

wc+ct 

Pott in wc

Most runs in single wc

Highest score in 2013 ct final

50 centuries 

No1 rank ( as a batsman n his team)

 

T20is

 

t20 wc 

2 Pott in t20 wc

Most runs in one tournament 

Motm in finals

Highest score in 2014 n 24 finals

No1 rank (as a batsman n his team)

 

Tests

 

Test maces

No1 rank( as a batsman n team)

 

 

Icc awards bonus

 

Drawbacks

 

Loi captaincy 

2015 sf n 19 sf

 

As a club cricketer not much successful.. he need to win the ipl trophy 

 

 

 

 

Edited July 25, 2024 by Praveen 06

[Adamant]

1 hour ago, Praveen 06 said:

kohli legacy bigger than anyone in international cricket.

 

Odis 

 

wc+ct 

Pott in wc

Most runs in single wc

Highest score in 2013 ct final

50 centuries 

No1 rank ( as a batsman n his team)

 

T20is

 

t20 wc 

2 Pott in t20 wc

Most runs in one tournament 

Motm in finals

Highest score in 2014 n 24 finals

No1 rank (as a batsman n his team)

 

Tests

 

Test maces

No1 rank( as a batsman n team)

 

 

Icc awards bonus

 

Drawbacks

 

Loi captaincy 

2015 sf n 19 sf

 

As a club cricketer not much successful.. he need to win the ipl trophy 

 

 

 

 

In test matches Kohli is below:

Sachin

Gavaskar

Dravid

 

Kohli needs to up his game in tests now, in SA we saw a glimpse but he needs to score big in home conditions now, hopefully the pitches aren’t a lottery this time.

 

The likes of Root, Williamson are filling up their stats by scoring against hapless teams like Pakistan on highways and against weak team in home, Kohli needs to go big against the Bangladeshs, I wish we get some grass on the pitch and some help for the pacers.

 

 

[Praveen 06]

4 minutes ago, Adamant said:

In test matches Kohli is below:

Sachin

Gavaskar

Dravid

 

Kohli needs to up his game in tests now, in SA we saw a glimpse but he needs to score big in home conditions now, hopefully the pitches aren’t a lottery this time.

 

The likes of Root, Williamson are filling up their stats by scoring against hapless teams like Pakistan on highways and against weak team in home, Kohli needs to go big against the Bangladeshs, I wish we get some grass on the pitch and some help for the pacers.

 

 

Yes kohli test legacy not great. If we consider 3 formats, kohli ahead 

[Kron]

8 hours ago, Praveen 06 said:

Definitely loi atg

 

Only player to win 3 icc trophies n 3 Pott in icc tournaments. 

 

Goat Asian captain and the third greatest captain of all time in general. 

Test cricket he is only behind Lloyd and punter. 

He revolutionised the Indian bowling attack and made them fearsome 

 

It's so unfortunate that he couldn't win that stupid wtc thing though even if it's a farce tournament. 

[Kron]

6 hours ago, Adamant said:

In test matches Kohli is below:

Sachin

Gavaskar

Dravid

 

Kohli needs to up his game in tests now, in SA we saw a glimpse but he needs to score big in home conditions now, hopefully the pitches aren’t a lottery this time.

 

The likes of Root, Williamson are filling up their stats by scoring against hapless teams like Pakistan on highways and against weak team in home, Kohli needs to go big against the Bangladeshs, I wish we get some grass on the pitch and some help for the pacers.

 

 

Agreed. Get shami harshit mayank (if his body is ok)

Some game time on spicy pitches. 

 

Make it bouncy and spongy. 

 

Get their confidence up. Fly off to aus. 

 

If we go 2 nil up vs kiwis just give them a extremely spicy pitch for the third game lol to troll them.

[Kron]

6 hours ago, Praveen 06 said:

Yes kohli test legacy not great. If we consider 3 formats, kohli ahead 

Bur kohli is the goat Asian test captain. Also 3rd in all time. He is better than Graeme Smith. His record and team is better.

[Praveen 06]

42 minutes ago, Kron said:

Goat Asian captain and the third greatest captain of all time in general. 

Test cricket he is only behind Lloyd and punter. 

He revolutionised the Indian bowling attack and made them fearsome 

 

It's so unfortunate that he couldn't win that stupid wtc thing though even if it's a farce tournament. 

Wtc format is joke. Anyways it's icc trophy, winning icc trophy is good for legacy.

[Kron]

28 minutes ago, Praveen 06 said:

Wtc format is joke. Anyways it's icc trophy, winning icc trophy is good for legacy.

True. That too in fukn England. I blame bcci. Chutiya made us play in England right after IPL when we were tired. Had no prep. 

 

Anyway his team was number 1 for 5 years straight. 

 

5 test maces. That's >>> stupid wtc. I still want to win one lol though

Edited July 25, 2024 by Kron

[mikeypbadana86]

On 7/23/2024 at 4:25 AM, Kron said:

Don't recall him ever playing a series defining innings which helped us win in SA, aus or even England. 

 

But that could be due to poor bowling attack. Give sacchu 2015 to 2022 bowling attack of india and he would plunder and mutilate teams. He was much better technically than virat.

temperament wise? mental toughness wise? 

 

Sachin is ala roger Federer with tons of natural ability. kohli is more djokovich like, sheer endurance and mental toughness?

[Vk1]

Unfortunately Kohli might get trolled badly after retiring. Kohli made his biggest contribution in odi cricket and in another 5-10 years we will see quite a few batsmen with 60+ average( inevitable).

 Absolute nobody's are averaging close to 50 these days.  

Edited November 8, 2024 by Vk1

[Muloghonto]

On 7/24/2024 at 11:58 PM, Adamant said:

In test matches Kohli is below:

Sachin

Gavaskar

Dravid

 

Kohli needs to up his game in tests now, in SA we saw a glimpse but he needs to score big in home conditions now, hopefully the pitches aren’t a lottery this time.

 

The likes of Root, Williamson are filling up their stats by scoring against hapless teams like Pakistan on highways and against weak team in home, Kohli needs to go big against the Bangladeshs, I wish we get some grass on the pitch and some help for the pacers.

 

 

 

Kohli at this precise point is also definitely below Sehwag in test format and is neck and neck with VVS. 

If Kohli keeps this up, by the time he retires he will be equivalent of Ganguly in test cricket.

 

[cricketfan28]

Easily.

[jf1gp_1]

He is our best white ball player. 

[Ultimate_Game]

3 hours ago, Muloghonto said:

 

Kohli at this precise point is also definitely below Sehwag in test format and is neck and neck with VVS. 

If Kohli keeps this up, by the time he retires he will be equivalent of Ganguly in test cricket.

 

 

I rate VVS higher. He helped us chase a few targets and get us over the line. Kohli has never shown that ability.

Edited November 9, 2024 by Ultimate_Game

[Ultimate_Game]

3 hours ago, Vk1 said:

Unfortunately Kohli might get trolled badly after retiring. Kohli made his biggest contribution in odi cricket and in another 5-10 years we will see quite a few batsmen with 60+ average( inevitable).

 Absolute nobody's are averaging close to 50 these days.  

 

Problem with Kohli is same as Amla or ABDV. Averaging 60 is all well and good but in shorter formats, performances in ICC knockouts and finals matter much more. What's the point of averaging in 60 and chasing all those totals in bilaterals when you go missing at the crunch.

 

I would rather take a batsman averaging in 40s who shows up in big matches. Someone like Gambhir, Dhawan or Travis Head.