G_B_ Posted January 3 Posted January 3 53 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: Chinese would have if they had the capability... They have been Trying to get out of the quagmire of SCS and Pacifics... US Navy has no such constraints. Obviously firepower wise they are second to none. Even the f22 raptor, and F35s on their carriers can launch Hypersonic "Mako" missile The chinese have trade..they dont need to. Would they have liked to, yes. They are equipping their j10 with a hypersonic missile. India needs to do same with brahmos 2. Truth is usa has canada and mexico as neighbours. China has to deal with india korea and japan. India needs to arm itself but its for the best china is pinned in scs
singhvivek141 Posted January 3 Posted January 3 30 minutes ago, pkmmamks said: Not being with China will make the pigs very vulnerable in the region Pooks cant go against USA, one step away and Asim Munir will get the end of Zia Ul Haq. China was a temporary arrangement coz US weren't supply them weapons, and Chinks badly needed someone to engage India and keep their western border free while they focus on Taiwan. But no one can match the ability of Pooks in selling themselves, they've already offered Pasni port to US, I wont be surprised if they ask US to setup military bases in Balochistan and KPK. G_B_ and raki05 2
G_B_ Posted January 3 Posted January 3 India also in catch 22 vs iran. Regime is rubbish abd clearly iran az country deserves better. But a USA friendly regime would supply pak with oil n gas during war. Let alone indian trade with central asia might be blocked. singhvivek141, raki05 and Lone Wolf 1 2
Lone Wolf Posted January 3 Posted January 3 (edited) 37 minutes ago, ravishingravi said: Still looking for those anyones who called this in April. Yeah this guy surely knows his geopolitics... His analysis is top draw when it comes to Trump and US, warned Indians when Trump won and don't celebrate his victory too.. No one saw that coming as well Edited January 3 by Lone Wolf
G_B_ Posted January 3 Posted January 3 Just now, singhvivek141 said: Pooks cant go against USA, one step away and Asim Munir will get the end of Zia Ul Haq. China was a temporary arrangement coz US weren't supply them weapons, and Chinks badly needed someone to engage India and keep their western border free while they focus on Taiwan. But no one can match the ability of Pooks in selling themselves, they've already offered Pasni port to US, I wont be surprised if they ask US to setup military bases in Balochistan and KPK. Pasni is not a deep port from what i know.. singhvivek141 1
singhvivek141 Posted January 3 Posted January 3 5 minutes ago, G_B_ said: The chinese have trade..they dont need to. Would they have liked to, yes. They are equipping their j10 with a hypersonic missile. India needs to do same with brahmos 2. Truth is usa has canada and mexico as neighbours. China has to deal with india korea and japan. India needs to arm itself but its for the best china is pinned in scs If I wear my selfish hat, then for me an ideal scenario is China invades Taiwan....that would flare up the situation and probably will bring China & US face 2 face with each other. In such scenario, no matter which party will lose, it will ensure both China & US would have lost significant amount of Military power, which might take ages to rebuild. Plus the loser might get a setback from which it might take it centuries to come out. Though, worldwide chip shortage, increased electronics prices and rare earth supply chain issues would cause havoc. Economies too may shatters and people would lose their jobs. G_B_ 1
singhvivek141 Posted January 3 Posted January 3 8 minutes ago, G_B_ said: Pasni is not a deep port from what i know.. At the moment yes, but Pak has proposed to US for the Dredging...worth 1.2 Billion USD.
Lone Wolf Posted January 3 Posted January 3 37 minutes ago, G_B_ said: India also in catch 22 vs iran. Regime is rubbish abd clearly iran az country deserves better. But a USA friendly regime would supply pak with oil n gas during war. Let alone indian trade with central asia might be blocked. Assets in Balochistan and KPK would go Kaput as soon as regime change happens in Iran. Not to mention INSTC corridor is gone for good as well. Mullah regime is blessing in disguise for India in so many ways. Someone give these guys decent fighter jets, they have MANPADS but their AD's & radars are gone for all money. Amphibious invasion is impossible thankfully. Mullahs need to curb the regime change ops as ruthlessly as possible... Go full Tianmen if need arises. G_B_ 1
G_B_ Posted January 3 Posted January 3 40 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said: If I wear my selfish hat, then for me an ideal scenario is China invades Taiwan....that would flare up the situation and probably will bring China & US face 2 face with each other. In such scenario, no matter which party will lose, it will ensure both China & US would have lost significant amount of Military power, which might take ages to rebuild. Plus the loser might get a setback from which it might take it centuries to come out. Though, worldwide chip shortage, increased electronics prices and rare earth supply chain issues would cause havoc. Economies too may shatters and people would lose their jobs. Usa wants india clash with pak/china China wants india pak clash India wants a usa china clash with japan and korea drawn in..
G_B_ Posted January 3 Posted January 3 19 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: Assets in Balochistan and KPK would go Kaput as soon as regime change happens in Iran. Not to mention INSTC corridor is gone for good as well. Mullah regime is blessing in disguise for India in so many ways. Someone give these guys decent fighter jets, they have MANPADS but their AD's & radars are gone for all money. Amphibious invasion is impossible thankfully. Mullahs need to curb the regime change ops as ruthlessly as possible... Go full Tianmen if need arises. Different issue there Khamenei is old. Plenty of internal factions who are or can be turned. Khamenei death will trigger change in any case.
Tillu Posted January 3 Posted January 3 3 hours ago, ravishingravi said: Not really sure. That's what it seems on the surface. US is panicking about the de dollarisation efforts going on. China is settling it's oil trade with Venezuela and Iran in Yuan. Today's attack against Venezuela and the current protests in Iran are the side effects. They are also looking to create new chokepoints in Red sea and Persian gulf due to which UAE and Saudis are fighting in Southern Yemen. The current rabid hate against India everywhere on Social media is also due to India settling it's Oil trade with Russia in Rupees. Once they are done with Iran they will come heavily against us as well. If Iran falls we will lose our strategic advantage in KPK and Balochistan. singhvivek141 and ravishingravi 2
MechEng Posted January 3 Posted January 3 1 hour ago, G_B_ said: India also in catch 22 vs iran. Regime is rubbish abd clearly iran az country deserves better. But a USA friendly regime would supply pak with oil n gas during war. Let alone indian trade with central asia might be blocked. Regime change is not going to be so easy in Iran. Mind you if US directly attempts something now, they will be badly wounded and weakened even if they manage a regime change. Iranians are too proud a people to surrender without a brutal fight. G_B_ 1
MechEng Posted January 3 Posted January 3 10 minutes ago, Tillu said: US is panicking about the de dollarisation efforts going on. China is settling it's oil trade with Venezuela and Iran in Yuan. Today's attack against Venezuela and the current protests in Iran are the side effects. They are also looking to create new chokepoints in Red sea and Persian gulf due to which UAE and Saudis are fighting in Southern Yemen. The current rabid hate against India everywhere on Social media is also due to India settling it's Oil trade with Russia in Rupees. Once they are done with Iran they will come heavily against us as well. If Iran falls we will lose our strategic advantage in KPK and Balochistan. So, the world war has officially begun.
IndianRenegade Posted January 3 Posted January 3 The US has said it is just a white colonial power, anyone who thinks that’s good news for India is wrong. India needed the semblance of a moral, rules based order until it attained China level dominance, the next 3 yrs will be tricky.
IndianRenegade Posted January 3 Posted January 3 As suspected… US would have suffered losses if not for this.
G_B_ Posted January 3 Posted January 3 5 hours ago, Lone Wolf said: Assets in Balochistan and KPK would go Kaput as soon as regime change happens in Iran. Not to mention INSTC corridor is gone for good as well. Mullah regime is blessing in disguise for India in so many ways. Someone give these guys decent fighter jets, they have MANPADS but their AD's & radars are gone for all money. Amphibious invasion is impossible thankfully. Mullahs need to curb the regime change ops as ruthlessly as possible... Go full Tianmen if need arises. India should plan for regime change in Iran. Country is collapsing. Hard for any regime to hold out long term.
G_B_ Posted January 3 Posted January 3 3 hours ago, IndianRenegade said: The US has said it is just a white colonial power, anyone who thinks that’s good news for India is wrong. India needed the semblance of a moral, rules based order until it attained China level dominance, the next 3 yrs will be tricky. How do people of Indian origin feel about living in a white colonial power? In theory your taxes contribute to the military industrial complex. ravishingravi 1
IndianRenegade Posted January 3 Posted January 3 (edited) 44 minutes ago, G_B_ said: How do people of Indian origin feel about living in a white colonial power? In theory your taxes contribute to the military industrial complex. the same way your tax dollars protect the trillions that British raj stole from India. It is the guy who you support & claimed good for India did this, & blunted the diplomatic front of Indian response to Pahalgam. Which is why I advocated for the position Indian interest lie with Dems, for all their flaws they aren’t colonial white racists. Kamla & biden were typical rules based order folks, who would have continued propping up India as a counter to China. literally every reason Indian magartards used to support the regime is unraveling in realtime, including the antiwar/anti interventionist lie. Edited January 3 by IndianRenegade Lone Wolf and ravishingravi 2
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