Who would you have as your T20I openers?

[Ultimate_Game]

Serious question coz at the moment I've no idea how to pick 2 openers in T20Is when we have Jaiswal, Abhishek, Arya, Suryavanshi, Gill, Sai, and Samson. You can literally pick any 2 and you would not be wrong!

 

Never thought I would see a day like this. Khushi ke aansoon aa gaye aankhon mein. Looks like IPL is finally working for us in creating hitters.

 

Please select only 2 while voting as your first choice openers for T20Is.

Edited April 28 by Ultimate_Game

[Chakdephatte]

Which one was better? Priyansh's innings or this one? Hard to pick.

[Ultimate_Game]

1 minute ago, Chakdephatte said:

Which one was better? Priyansh's innings or this one? Hard to pick.

 

So torn right now. They were both such great innings as was Abhishek's 100. Literally any one of these players can play a match-winning knock of a 40 ball 100!

[Chakdephatte]

Wrong thread

Edited April 28 by Chakdephatte

[deepdynamo]

Sai and Gill are 150-160 SR players but consistent.

Jaiswal and Samson can pump it up to 170-180 SR but prone to stupid shots as well.

Abhishek is 200 SR batsman. If he bats for 50 balls, guaranteed to get 100.

Priyansh and Suryavansi are new kids on block. Both 200 SR but still too raw and new. 
 

[Ultimate_Game]

4 minutes ago, deepdynamo said:

Sai and Gill are 150-160 SR players but consistent.

Jaiswal and Samson can pump it up to 170-180 SR but prone to stupid shots as well.

Abhishek is 200 SR batsman. If he bats for 50 balls, guaranteed to get 100.

Priyansh and Suryavansi are new kids on block. Both 200 SR but still too raw and new. 
 

 

T20 format has changed rapidly. It's a game for explosive batters and ideal for next gen kids. I'm leaning towards Jaiswal and one of Abhishek, Arya or Suryavanshi. Don't see any place for Samson. If Sai keeps on performing, he can take Tilak's spot at 3 since with all these explosive openers, wouldn't mind a slightly more stable and consistent no. 3.

 

But what a problem for selectors to have! They can throw all these names in a box and pick any two like a lottery and it wouldn't be a bad decision.

[crictime]

No Sai Sudarshan and Shubman Gill. They dont make use of powerplay. The rest on the list are proper power players with the right intent for making max of the power play.

[cricketfan28]

Asharma, Arya and vanshi .exciting and looks next gen.

[Chakdephatte]

Why is Prabhsimran not in the list? 

 

20 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 If Sai keeps on performing, he can take Tilak's spot at 3 since with all these explosive openers, wouldn't mind a slightly more stable and consistent no. 3.

 

But what a problem for selectors to have! They can throw all these names in a box and pick any two like a lottery and it wouldn't be a bad decision.

Tilak just happened to score two hundreds on some of the flattest batting tracks ever. Patidar and Venkatesh Iyer are much better prospects for his spot. They attack more and play pace and spin well. 

Edited April 28 by Chakdephatte

[Lord]

38 minutes ago, Chakdephatte said:

Which one was better? Priyansh's innings or this one? Hard to pick.

 

This one. Chasing pressure and better bowlers

[Ultimate_Game]

2 minutes ago, Chakdephatte said:

Why is Prabhsimran not in the list? 

 

Tilak just happened to score two hundreds on some of the flattest batting tracks ever. Patidar and Venkatesh Iyer are much better prospects for his spot. They attack more and play pace and spin well. 

 

Prabhsimran doesn't have the high ceiling as the ones on the list. He's way too inconsistent and is a level or two below the rest. Plus he's an unfit phuck with belly like a middle aged uncle.

 

Patidar and Venky Iyer will need to do a lot more to get into the team. Not sold on Patidar as he hasn't shown he can handle pressure, and Venky would be much more useful if he bowls regularly. If Venky doesn't bowl, there're a number of batting options better than him.

[Ultimate_Game]

1 minute ago, Lord said:

 

This one. Chasing pressure and better bowlers

 

Yeah but that pitch had a lot of help for bowlers. Facing spin there was not easy.

[crictime]

We are better off with opening batsmen who can score 30 runs in an over in power play.  Accumulators should be kept away given that we have so many hitters as options for opening spot.

[Need4Speed]

it depends upon the pitch...and current form and experience..

 

on slightly tricky tracks Jaisawal is a must..

Abhsihsek Sharma now has International experience..

 

Vaibhav has lots of time to develop his game more a bit..against crafty spinners..

 

Priyansh Arya is free flowing and may give tough competition to Abhishek Sharma..if the latters form dwindles..but Abhishek bolws too so a plus..

 

Sanju samson..is a wk..so that helps with balance..

 

its really tough man..

 

probably I will hav eto go with Sanju + Abhishek for now.. as they have been doing well..

 

 

Abhishek\Arya\Vaibhav. they are 250\300 SR players... those will kill the game..if play decent number of balls..so as the high risk factor..with them.. we may keep one of them..for now..to partner with either Sanju or Jaiswal..

 

Happy headache as far as the batting is concerned..atleast top of the order..

 

Edited April 28 by Need4Speed

[Lord]

Jaiswal and Abhishek with Arya as backup

[tapandrun]

The kind of batting Jaiswal and Vaibhav did today is not possible consistency, but saying have an accumulator on one end and some1 who can hit on other end will also not produce consistent results.

 

For this thing to happen consistently team needs 2 batter who both are hitter and both start going after the ball from ball 1 and who ever is finding it best that day will go full throttle, same thing Abhishek and head were doing.

 

Having a designated hitter and accumulator is old thinking and easy for bowling side to figure out how to bowl to such combination, you know who is going to go after the bowling, deprive that batter of the strike, develop some kind of plan for the hitter so that they are not getting multiple boundaries per over that often and then they can have 55-65 run pp for a bowling side on a bad day and on good day there can be 1-2 wkt and sub 55 run pp.

 

What head and abhishek didi last season was bowling side did not had idea who to bowl and where to bowl but became unstoppable and team were happy if one of them gets out and have something like 66-1 in pp which. Which still is a good pp for batting side. but bowling side were happy to see one of those batter back 

[Lord]

11 minutes ago, tapandrun said:

The kind of batting Jaiswal and Vaibhav did today is not possible consistency, but saying have an accumulator on one end and some1 who can hit on other end will also not produce consistent results.

 

For this thing to happen consistently team needs 2 batter who both are hitter and both start going after the ball from ball 1 and who ever is finding it best that day will go full throttle, same thing Abhishek and head were doing.

 

Having a designated hitter and accumulator is old thinking and easy for bowling side to figure out how to bowl to such combination, you know who is going to go after the bowling, deprive that batter of the strike, develop some kind of plan for the hitter so that they are not getting multiple boundaries per over that often and then they can have 55-65 run pp for a bowling side on a bad day and on good day there can be 1-2 wkt and sub 55 run pp.

 

What head and abhishek didi last season was bowling side did not had idea who to bowl and where to bowl but became unstoppable and team were happy if one of them gets out and have something like 66-1 in pp which. Which still is a good pp for batting side. but bowling side were happy to see one of those batter back 

 

Those were uber pattas. Even Pant made runs

Same approach has failed massively this season. Its not sustainable. 

Ideally batsmen should be able to do with as per situation. They need to be aware who can attack whom, which bowler to be careful of etc. 

[tapandrun]

1 hour ago, Lord said:

 

Those were uber pattas. Even Pant made runs

Same approach has failed massively this season. Its not sustainable. 

Ideally batsmen should be able to do with as per situation. They need to be aware who can attack whom, which bowler to be careful of etc. 

 

Think they tried to over do themselves, initially thought its their strategy to put other teams under pressure saying they can score 300 this season but they drunk their own cool-aid.

 

But as IPl/T20 cricket is moving away from anchor/accumlators' role there are high chances that there will be player/batter who will have an outstanding season and could go bum next season without kinowing what is wrong with them as no time to fix it as someother team will be clicking and they have to catch-up.

 

This season all srh batter went off form together there was no1 who can win 1-2 games before some of the big hitter start getting into the zone. Same thing happened to rr though not as good a batting line up but now Jaiswal is scoring and now scoring at good rate but they have no1 who can win them games apart from him.

 

Looks at mumbai they were down and out but now each batter is clicking.

 

Gt's defensive opening have worked as they had good timely knocks by jos and rutherford at time to give the much needed impetus, even couple of hits from tewatia also helped, add add to that one of their opening was playing a big knock.  

 

Same plan of defensive openers is not working fr csk.

 

Defensive player = those who are not targeting 145+ sr from ball 1 or not targeting multiple 4/6 per over

 

and in accumulator+ hitter combo no mater which batter gets out the rr is bound to drop before they establish who is going to take-up hitting again. 

 

 

 

Edited April 28 by tapandrun

[vvvslaxman]

We need two Indian teams guys. It is impossible to play everyone. You never know who will click in which match.

[bowl_out]

Rishabh Pant