Ashok Sharma and Karthik Tyagi

[tweaker]

Ashok Sharma and Karthik Tyagi,both should play the next series.

Both should not be judged by 2,3 performance and should be backed for a long time.

Both can be all formats bowlers and can be rotated along with Bumrah, Siraj , Prasidh and can learn from senior bowlers especially Bumrah 

[Suhaan]

Both of them were 20-25 kph slower

[govinda]

1 hour ago, tweaker said:

Ashok Sharma and Karthik Tyagi,both should play the next series.

Both should not be judged by 2,3 performance and should be backed for a long time.

Both can be all formats bowlers and can be rotated along with Bumrah, Siraj , Prasidh and can learn from senior bowlers especially Bumrah 

They need 3 or 4 wicket haul esp tyagi

[Lone Wolf]

Watch them pick Aquib Nabi instead based on third world level domestic tournament called Ranji Trophy...

 

All hail the Trundlers shree shree Mukesh Koomar comeback loading as well 

[Ultimate_Game]

Rasikh Salam should be picked for T20s.

[Suhaan]

2 hours ago, Ultimate_Game said:

Rasikh Salam should be picked for T20s.

If there is one slot available for that sort of bowler ,I will go with Sakib much higher skill level and confidence 

[tweaker]

Ashok finally selected as replacement for A team.

 

Karthik would have to wait for next IPL.

[Manucrick]

9 minutes ago, tweaker said:

Ashok finally selected as replacement for A team.

 

Karthik would have to wait for next IPL.

They need to play ashok for tomorrow match we genuinely miss 140+ bowler 

[Ultimate_Game]

Mohsin (if fit), Prince, Ashok, Gurnoor, Rasikh, Sakib, Harshit, Arshdeep are the ones who should be in the white-ball pace bowling pool to support Bumrah. Pace allrounders should be Nitish Reddy, Shedge, Madhav Tiwari to see if anyone can complement and replace Pandya in the longer run.

[Need4Speed]

1 hour ago, Ultimate_Game said:

Mohsin (if fit), Prince, Ashok, Gurnoor, Rasikh, Sakib, Harshit, Arshdeep are the ones who should be in the white-ball pace bowling pool to support Bumrah. Pace allrounders should be Nitish Reddy, Shedge, Madhav Tiwari to see if anyone can complement and replace Pandya in the longer run.

Add Kartik Tyagi..Mayank Yadav after some more game time..initially T20

Edited June 16 by Need4Speed

[govinda]

1 hour ago, Ultimate_Game said:

Mohsin (if fit), Prince, Ashok, Gurnoor, Rasikh, Sakib, Harshit, Arshdeep are the ones who should be in the white-ball pace bowling pool to support Bumrah. Pace allrounders should be Nitish Reddy, Shedge, Madhav Tiwari to see if anyone can complement and replace Pandya in the longer run.

Rasikh dude you shamelessly love trundlers while dissing fast bowlers like tyagi. If you were our coach our team would compete with likes of uganda

[Ultimate_Game]

36 minutes ago, govinda said:

Rasikh dude you shamelessly love trundlers while dissing fast bowlers like tyagi. If you were our coach our team would compete with likes of uganda

 

Rasikh is mentally tougher and doesn't go to pieces. I want players who can show up on the big stage. What I've seen of Rasikh, he can and Kartik can't. Let him prove me wrong. I'm not going to push for a bowler just because he bowls fast and then gets hammered and loses the plot. The reason we started winning ICC trophies is coz we started backing mentally tougher players like Axar, Ishan, Dube etc. Kartik is another Siraj or Kuldeep. Maybe he can be picked for longer formats but in shorter formats he's a big no-no.

[Ultimate_Game]

1 hour ago, Need4Speed said:

Add Kartik Tyagi..Mayank Yadav after some more game time..initially T20

 

They've to prove they belong. Mayank hasn't replicated his pace and form from 2-3 seasons ago. And Kartik is mentally fragile. In fact I would prefer Tyagi in the longer formats where pressure would be less on him and nobody will go after him. Him and Siraj are better Test bowlers than shorter format ones.

[govinda]

50 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

Rasikh is mentally tougher and doesn't go to pieces. I want players who can show up on the big stage. What I've seen of Rasikh, he can and Kartik can't. Let him prove me wrong. I'm not going to push for a bowler just because he bowls fast and then gets hammered and loses the plot. The reason we started winning ICC trophies is coz we started backing mentally tougher players like Axar, Ishan, Dube etc. Kartik is another Siraj or Kuldeep. Maybe he can be picked for longer formats but in shorter formats he's a big no-no.

I understand your point but bowlers like rasikh would be eaten alive by sena batters. There is saying in cricket that pace cannot be taught. Look at Bangladesh how they are encouraging fast bowlers and you want us to go back to trundlers like kamboj and rasikh

[Ultimate_Game]

20 minutes ago, govinda said:

I understand your point but bowlers like rasikh would be eaten alive by sena batters. There is saying in cricket that pace cannot be taught. Look at Bangladesh how they are encouraging fast bowlers and you want us to go back to trundlers like kamboj and rasikh

 

Rasikh has shown and delivered more than others. If there's anyone better by all means play them. But you can't rule against the guy without a cricketing reason.

[vvvslaxman]

40 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

Rasikh has shown and delivered more than others. If there's anyone better by all means play them. But you can't rule against the guy without a cricketing reason.

He faced 1 ball against Pakistan. 20th over last ball. He smashed him for a massive six. India won the match by 7 runs. He picked 2 for 30 as well

 

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/acc-men-s-t20-emerging-teams-asia-cup-2024-25-1455335/india-a-vs-pakistan-shaheens-4th-match-group-b-1455339/full-scorecard

[Ultimate_Game]

2 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

He faced 1 ball against Pakistan. 20th over last ball. He smashed him for a massive six. India won the match by 7 runs. He picked 2 for 30 as well

 

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/acc-men-s-t20-emerging-teams-asia-cup-2024-25-1455335/india-a-vs-pakistan-shaheens-4th-match-group-b-1455339/full-scorecard

 

I like the fact that the guy shows up and delivers no matter the situation. On paper he shouldn't even be close to likes of Kartik, Prasidh etc. But I would pick Rasikh over them coz I know he won't implode and I can depend on him. He isn't a world beater but he won't buckle under and lose the match for you either.

[singhvivek141]

2 hours ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

They've to prove they belong. Mayank hasn't replicated his pace and form from 2-3 seasons ago. And Kartik is mentally fragile. In fact I would prefer Tyagi in the longer formats where pressure would be less on him and nobody will go after him. Him and Siraj are better Test bowlers than shorter format ones.

 

Tyagi has to prove his fitness in FC, that will help him build his muscle memory.

 

For Tests...Gurnoor, Eden Apple Tom, Prasidh, Akashdeep, Siraj, Bumrah, Harshit are there. We can hopefully pull in Ashok as well and he can bowl lot of overs without breaking down, and is a good fielder and no mug with the bat. 

 

At the moment, only Akashdeep & Ashok are the ones who can not only contribute with bat & ball but also field well. Harshit too is there but his fitness can be a ? mark.

 

Heard good things about Eden Apple Tom's batting/tonking ability as well...hope he is a good fielder. We need such guys.

[singhvivek141]

16 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

I like the fact that the guy shows up and delivers no matter the situation. On paper he shouldn't even be close to likes of Kartik, Prasidh etc. But I would pick Rasikh over them coz I know he won't implode and I can depend on him. He isn't a world beater but he won't buckle under and lose the match for you either.

 

Trundling is easier to control.

 

Fast bowling requires you to be on your full potential...with all parts moving like a machine. Thats why it is a hard job and hence fast bowlers need more backing and opportunities.

 

Problem is we Indians are usually impatient, we have this "show me more" syndrome. 

[Ultimate_Game]

4 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

 

Trundling is easier to control.

 

Fast bowling requires you to be on your full potential...with all parts moving like a machine. Thats why it is a hard job and hence fast bowlers need more backing and opportunities.

 

Problem is we Indians are usually impatient, we have this "show me more" syndrome. 

 

We are more than patient. But performances trump everything else. Go and learn in domestics coz if another player is outperforming you in domestics, how can you be a better pick in intls? Pick him in intls but based on what?