kepler37b Posted May 1 Posted May 1 9 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: Cricketers marrying/dating outside religion has been going on for sometime. Not everything can be clubbed with LJ case, these shernis crave money and attention first. Even Abhishek I think is dating a Kashmiri Muslim model.. not that one should care but saw it on reddit once. Yeah. But lets not discount the presence of organized grooming gangs. singhvivek141 1
Lone Wolf Posted May 1 Posted May 1 19 minutes ago, Mariyam said: Misleading title. For it to be a case of “Love Jihad” , the identity has to be hidden/masked. At this stage ICF would title any love story involving a Muslim person as a case of “love Jihad”. Agreed Rizvi isn't hiding his identity or religion. This isn't LJ by means. But maybe OP is unaware of Sherni culture
Mariyam Posted May 1 Posted May 1 Just now, Lone Wolf said: Agreed Rizvi isn't hiding his identity or religion. This isn't LJ by means. But maybe OP is unaware of Sherni culture With all due respect, why are you calling this girl a ‘Sherni’? You are mocking her for making a choice. There is no element of coercion here, based on what I have read in that tweet. The cricketer asked her to memorise some Ayats. Strange, memorising something which you don’t understand helps how? She knows what she is getting into. She can walk away. There are many conservative families , predominantly Muslim, but also Hindu, where after marriage the woman is asked to tone down her social media profiles or disable her profile. Happens to a lot of Muslim girls. Not that I condone any of that restrictive controlling behaviour, but In this case, this anchor is aware of the restrictions the cricketer is likely to put on her, and has *still* chosen to continue the relationship.
singhvivek141 Posted May 1 Posted May 1 27 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: Cricketers marrying/dating outside religion has been going on for sometime. Not everything can be clubbed with LJ case, these shernis crave money and attention first. Even Abhishek I think is dating a Kashmiri Muslim model.. not that one should care but saw it on reddit once. Problem is not with marriage, problem is then forceful application of faith. Zak-Sagarika has married, so does Shivam and her muslim wife. But in open presence neither of them are forcing their religion over other. Issue arises when one part start applying "restrictions" over the other. Dont do this, dont do that, this is not allowed, that is banned. Slowly it leads to conversion and then adaptation of certain practices which are insulting to other. These shernis, even their parents deserve the blame and shame. Have become so greedy that they dont see anything beyond money. Thats what happens when you take your kids to phuket and pattaya instead of the local temples.
singhvivek141 Posted May 1 Posted May 1 33 minutes ago, kepler37b said: Yeah. But lets not discount the presence of organized grooming gangs. Madarsa's needs to be controlled for that first. With every madarsa registered and had a govt appointed maulana in it. AIMPLB needs to be abolished and it has to be one country one law for all. Those who have migrated to Pakistan, their land and properties belong to Indian govt.
singhvivek141 Posted May 1 Posted May 1 5 minutes ago, kepler37b said: Average muslimah.... Burning her and her family is the way. They want jannat, give them hell. These same pigs will do spygiri for Pakistanistan, and then libtards and moderate Muslims will defend them Manucrick and Laaloo 2
Mariyam Posted May 1 Posted May 1 22 minutes ago, kepler37b said: Average muslimah.... There is no news article.Just a tweet with a picture and some texts by a handle who is not from a new channel or associated with any print media. (Below) Average RW Internet troll behaviour? Spread rumours and not verify? Let’s assume that this news is true. The lady has been caught. The rapist will be caught soon. The law will take its course. Is this persons’ action indicative of that of an entire people? Nikhil_cric 1
Mariyam Posted May 1 Posted May 1 20 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said: Burning her and her family is the way. They want jannat, give them hell. These same pigs will do spygiri for Pakistanistan, and then libtards and moderate Muslims will defend them Calm down. Burning someone is not the way. India is a civilised country for a reason. There are courts. There is POSCO. Punishment will be harsh, rest assured. Spying for Pakistan has nothing to do with this. Many non Muslims have done it for a payout. Also stop with the ‘moderate Muslims will defend this’ shtick. No one is going to defend the rape of a child. Period.
Lone Wolf Posted May 1 Posted May 1 1 minute ago, singhvivek141 said: Shivam and her muslim wife. But in open presence neither of them are forcing their religion over other. Hindus not proselytizing is not the W that we think it is... I think it is certain that Dube has likely converted. Have seen the pictures on internet of his marriage via Muslim rituals also most claim his Kids are being raised as Muslim by his wife. H men date a lot of M women too but they don't marry them often coz they would have to convert. A mini historical concept here, Dogra Hindu King of Kashmir wanted a mini Spanish style reconquista in valley and his ideas were rejected by Priests from Varanasi saying that reconverted fellows cannot be given similar status as originals and shouldn't be recognised as equals. Talk about brain-dead concept. Dead certain Marathas despite all the powers they had in their peak also failed coz of these absurd restrictions and a Spanish style reconquista wasn't achieved in subcontinent.
Lone Wolf Posted May 1 Posted May 1 44 minutes ago, Mariyam said: With all due respect, why are you calling this girl a ‘Sherni’? You are mocking her for making a choice. There is no element of coercion here, based on what I have read in that tweet. The cricketer asked her to memorise some Ayats. Strange, memorising something which you don’t understand helps how? She knows what she is getting into. She can walk away When did I say Rizvi is wrong here? He is following his ethics/ideals and asking his gf/partner or whatever to do the same. Sherni concept is about fooling people/masses in case things don't work out. She is an adult and very much knows what she is getting into. She ain't a victim in the case that's the point. Mariyam 1
Mariyam Posted May 1 Posted May 1 1 minute ago, Lone Wolf said: When did I say Rizvi is wrong here? He is following his ethics/ideals and asking his gf/partner or whatever to do the same. Sherni concept is about fooling people/masses in case things don't work out. She is an adult and very much knows what she is getting into. She ain't a victim in the case that's the point. Rizvi is not wrong yet. One can also ask, Why should she memorise some Ayats? If his behaviour towards the girl changes for the worse if she does not memorise the said ayaats, then he is wrong.
randomGuy Posted May 1 Posted May 1 For LJ cases, Bajrang dal (part of VHP) is doing good work. There are by now maybe 1000s of cases in my twitter feed where Bajrang dal saved girls/families. Bajrang dal recently launched a helpline as well. The case of shernis although more common than LJ is also not common (except in Bollywood). Probably the least per capita shernis exist in Gujarat due to the society and upbringing by parents.
kepler37b Posted May 1 Posted May 1 24 minutes ago, Mariyam said: There is no news article.Just a tweet with a picture and some texts by a handle who is not from a new channel or associated with any print media. (Below) Average RW Internet troll behaviour? Spread rumours and not verify? Let’s assume that this news is true. The lady has been caught. The rapist will be caught soon. The law will take its course. Is this persons’ action indicative of that of an entire people? Ok..
kepler37b Posted May 1 Posted May 1 49 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said: Burning her and her family is the way. They want jannat, give them hell. These same pigs will do spygiri for Pakistanistan, and then libtards and moderate Muslims will defend them There is a telugu saying.. " Evan A mouse will show it's dick to a incapable cat" Until Hindus transform themselves into a militant faith, nothing is going to change. "Let's care about family and myself wonly" hindoo must be mocked and beaten. Blaming Islamists is pointless. They have been same for long. singhvivek141, Lone Wolf and Laaloo 3
Lone Wolf Posted May 1 Posted May 1 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Mariyam said: Rizvi is not wrong yet. One can also ask, Why should she memorise some Ayats? If his behaviour towards the girl changes for the worse if she does not memorise the said ayaats, then he is wrong. Original tweet source is dodgy, anyways if she isn't okay with all this she can walk away. She isn't held at gunpoint. Edited May 1 by Lone Wolf
singhvivek141 Posted May 1 Posted May 1 31 minutes ago, Mariyam said: Calm down. Burning someone is not the way. India is a civilised country for a reason. There are courts. There is POSCO. Punishment will be harsh, rest assured. Spying for Pakistan has nothing to do with this. Many non Muslims have done it for a payout. Also stop with the ‘moderate Muslims will defend this’ shtick. No one is going to defend the rape of a child. Period. Civil laws applies for humans, not for inhumans. And there are many folks who defend these claims, did we forget about the rape & death of Dr. Madhavi in Hyderabad ? Leftists specifically went only to the Muslim perpetrators house to garner sympathy on how he is the sole bread earner for his family. Does it gives him free pass ? Heck, even in Nirbhaya case, the one minor who was a Muslim was defended and is still roaming free. Probably even boasting of his achievement. Rest all are dead. Unless the psychology behind these incidents arent stattered. These incidents will continue to rise....and someday it will explode in retaliation causing massive loss of live and infra. Manucrick 1
Lone Wolf Posted May 1 Posted May 1 10 minutes ago, kepler37b said: There is a telugu saying.. " Evan A mouse will show it's dick to a incapable cat" Until Hindus transform themselves into a militant faith, nothing is going to change. "Let's care about family and myself wonly" hindoo must be mocked and beaten. Blaming Islamists is pointless. They have been same for long. Exactly crying victim everytime... Either adapt or Perish. We need a Centralised system in place like Abrahamics which can bring some changes into the rituals as well. Bring back Shakti traditions back into the Temples for a change.
singhvivek141 Posted May 1 Posted May 1 39 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: Hindus not proselytizing is not the W that we think it is... I think it is certain that Dube has likely converted. Have seen the pictures on internet of his marriage via Muslim rituals also most claim his Kids are being raised as Muslim by his wife. H men date a lot of M women too but they don't marry them often coz they would have to convert. A mini historical concept here, Dogra Hindu King of Kashmir wanted a mini Spanish style reconquista in valley and his ideas were rejected by Priests from Varanasi saying that reconverted fellows cannot be given similar status as originals and shouldn't be recognised as equals. Talk about brain-dead concept. Dead certain Marathas despite all the powers they had in their peak also failed coz of these absurd restrictions and a Spanish style reconquista wasn't achieved in subcontinent. These concept is there in every OG religion. Even Jews dont accept others in their community so easily. Its only the recent ones, who believe in absolute numbers and are using every trick off the sleeve.
Lone Wolf Posted May 1 Posted May 1 3 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said: These concept is there in every OG religion. Even Jews dont accept others in their community so easily. Its only the recent ones, who believe in absolute numbers and are using every trick off the sleeve. That's how it should be.. Jews also accepted lost Joos of Manipur as their own and settled them in Israel. Exceptions exist. If I was the King I would have went ahead with idea and low key solved the K problem. His ideas were actually not even radical, he simply gave a choice that people can come back to Original faith if they want to. The priests brought caste angle and how they cannot marry and mingle with Original folks and all that stuff. Mind you KP's rejoiced at their decision as they feared their status in the valley will diminish if King's plan materialised. Less than a Century later they were driven out Tribalism has always triumphed in History.
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