goose Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 The IPL is a complete and utter lottery ! That the T20 format is a roll of the dice is something we all knew anyhow. Then you take the world's best players and sprinkle them evenly amongst 8 teams with most sides employing those players as opening bats and you have a recipe for a statistical borefest. Roll a single dice enough times and you'll get a six 16.6667% of the time. Play enough IPL games and you'll win the same amount as the next guy (unless you're Kolkata Dick Riders). As I write we're over half way through and 3 points separate 1st and 7th. There's simply no room to shine in this format. The beautiful game is going to be reduced to a net run rate debacle. Oh, and once we're done with the league phase, you've got one bite at the cherry in the semi-finals, and again in the final - sudden death. Russian roulete gets ramped up another notch. The league phase is far too long (56 games too long to be precise) and the knockout phase too short. Discuss at your leisure ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fineleg Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 The IPL is a complete and utter lottery ! That the T20 format is a roll of the dice is something we all knew anyhow. Then you take the world's best players and sprinkle them evenly amongst 8 teams with most sides employing those players as opening bats and you have a recipe for a statistical borefest. Roll a single dice enough times and you'll get a six 16.6667% of the time. Play enough IPL games and you'll win the same amount as the next guy (unless you're Kolkata Dick Riders). As I write we're over half way through and 3 points separate 1st and 7th. There's simply no room to shine in this format. The beautiful game is going to be reduced to a net run rate debacle. Oh, and once we're done with the league phase, you've got one bite at the cherry in the semi-finals, and again in the final - sudden death. Russian roulete gets ramped up another notch. The league phase is far too long (56 games too long to be precise) and the knockout phase too short. Discuss at your leisure ! Your whole post can be summarized as "IPL = circus". Yes, but neverthless, teams fighting it out and teams being close to each other points-wise is much better to keep the tournament alive. So, that's not a bad thing, right? (and b4 the "why do you watch circus?" folks are in, well - currently circus is the only thing in town, with indian players in it, so Lalit Modi does not give us much choice. This being in SA is a good thing though) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboysfan Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 meh-this has been discussed to death.you either like it or you dont .I on the other hand dont go around forcing purists to like T20 and the IPL but the purists i have seen cant let it go.They want to impose their views of how ridiculous the whole T20 and IPL is on others and the sad part is that they know its a losing cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomainK Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Dont like IPL....stop watching IPL. Simple. Stop whining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amits Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 wel said goose. bring back odis and i hope the next ipl is played in the 50-over format & not 20/20 20/20 sucks & it is murder of cricket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted May 5, 2009 Author Share Posted May 5, 2009 The points congestion and subsequent knockout phase is a statistical consequence of the format - has nothing to do with cricket. Picking the top three to contest a triangular, or even the top two to contest a best of three would be better. The top four from eight followed by two semi-finals and one final is rank stupid. Top four from sixteen one could understand. It's all unadulterated bollox. I just can't get it up for IPL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suraj Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 I love IPL IPL rocks:two_thumbs_up::two_thumbs_up: Stop 50-50 cricket, only 20-20 is good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Problem is not with the format (20/20), rather with this random list of players. You have players coming and going at random making the event very unpredictable. A team like RR, if it had players like Watson and Sohail again this year from the beginning, would have most likely kicked ass again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted May 5, 2009 Author Share Posted May 5, 2009 meh-this has been discussed to death.you either like it or you dont .I on the other hand dont go around forcing purists to like T20 and the IPL but the purists i have seen cant let it go.They want to impose their views of how ridiculous the whole T20 and IPL is on others and the sad part is that they know its a losing cause. meh yourself. show me the post that highlights the statistical inevitability of points congestion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboysfan Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 i would rather have point congestion than 2 or 3 teams sucking so horrendously(like IPL-2).This unpredictability actually makes IPL-2 better than IPL-1-plus the south african pitches are awesome.I also believe the number of teams is too less but we are still in the infancy of IPL and i have no doubt that they will increase the number of teams -more fun for me i guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamy Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 i would rather have point congestion than 2 or 3 teams sucking so horrendously(like IPL-2).This unpredictability actually makes IPL-2 better than IPL-1-plus the south african pitches are awesome.I also believe the number of teams is too less but we are still in the infancy of IPL and i have no doubt that they will increase the number of teams -more fun for me i guess. Yes, this indeed is better than IPL-1 when it comes to the points table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jf1gp_1 Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 So what are you complaining about; unlike WC which Aussies have reduced to nothing more than a waste of time, BCCI has created such a competitive series that half way through the tournament any of the 7 out of 8 teams could make it to semi's ? If having 1 semi/final is a lottery then what do you call the format of 9 WCs we have had till date ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted May 5, 2009 Author Share Posted May 5, 2009 so if we toss a coin 100 times with you heads and me tails a 51-49 scoreline would excite you? worryingly i think the answer might be yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amits Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 i am missing odis bring back odis:protest: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 so if we toss a coin 100 times with you heads and me tails a 51-49 scoreline would excite you? worryingly i think the answer might be yes. If you like watching a coin toss, then yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted May 5, 2009 Author Share Posted May 5, 2009 So what are you complaining about; unlike WC which Aussies have reduced to nothing more than a waste of time, BCCI has created such a competitive series that half way through the tournament any of the 7 out of 8 teams could make it to semi's ? If having 1 semi/final is a lottery then what do you call the format of 9 WCs we have had till date ? i have a better idea. lets get six sides, number them 1 to 6, and roll a single die 60 times. bet you they'll all end up with between 8 and 12 wins. Imagine how close it would be ! Orgasms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Outsider Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 I made this point last year as well - it makes no sense to play 56 games just to whittle down 8 to 4. Either have a final straight up after the 56 games or divide the teams into groups if you want to play Semi Finals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veer Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 my guess is that IPL will get boring after 3-4 years.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomainK Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 i have a better idea. lets get six sides' date=' number them 1 to 6, and roll a single die 60 times. bet you they'll all end up with between 8 and 12 wins. Imagine how close it would be ! Orgasms.[/quote'] You cant see any differnce between cricket and coin tossing? One fineleg was enough. Now we have another one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboysfan Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 you know i would like to continue this argument but its beyond pointless to have it against a few holdouts who dont matter-carry on without me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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