asterix Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 Bhai, all I'm requesting to Dhoni is to not take Batting PP too late and leave it for jelly legs Bhikhari Jadeja. As i've said earlier, Dhoni can very well keep his 'keep' in the team but shouldn't screw us both ways by delaying the Batting PP and then leaving it for malnourished Bhikhari..That's double whammy..
IKnowU Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 I cant find a match where he did something really good to contribute to the winning of the team. :banghead:
asterix Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 This the best chance for Dhoni to have a shot at ODI WC. it's being played in subcontinent. He shouldn't screw up in team selection. The next WC will be in 2016. Dhoni has one of the best set of hitters like Sehwag, UV at his disposal in this WC. Who knows whether he or Sehwag or UV will be captain or in the team in next WC or not. He should grab this chance with both the hands and ditch Jadeja. After this WC, Jadeja and many players like him will be at his 'disposal' and he can do whatever he 'wants'. He can even gift his bat to Jadeja. By that time Jadeja will be able learn to 'handle the bat'. Dhoni should focus on winning the WC and not on Jadeja...
Lord Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 This the best chance for Dhoni to have a shot at ODI WC. it's being played in subcontinent. He shouldn't screw up in team selection. The next WC will be in 2016. Dhoni has one of the best set of hitters like Sehwag' date= UV at his disposal in this WC. Who knows whether he or Sehwag or UV will be captain or in the team in next WC or not. He should grab this chance with both the hands and ditch Jadeja. After this WC, Jadeja and many players like him will be at his 'disposal' and he can do whatever he 'wants'. He can even gift his bat to Jadeja. By that time Jadeja will be able learn to 'handle the bat'. Dhoni should focus on winning the WC and not on Jadeja... its in 2015
achilles Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 Just read an sms again. Switching a few terms- Dhoni can fake an orgasm for Kris, Kris can fake a player for Dhoni.
Ram Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 All the irrelevant Jadeja bashing aside, when will the Indian team ever wake up to the fact that Jadeja is not a no.7 bat? Even assuming that he does have some abilities as a batsmen and it’s the pressure of the situation in the middle that gets to him, that by itself is no reason to play him at 7 because his batting traits simply do not fit the job description of a no.7 batsmen. To play in that position, you must have 1) A power game 2)Abilitiy to close out games 3)Abilitiy to clear in the infield during the final batting PP 4)Ability to bat with tail-enders and 5)Ability to handle high-pressure situations against top quality bowling attacks. The scary part is, none of what we have seen so far suggests that he has atleast one of the five listed characteristics. It isn’t simply enough to say ‘Oh, he can hold a bat, we think he can do well..’ At best, he’s a no.8 bat who gives Dhoni control in the bowling and an athletic body in the outfield. Its about time the Indian team reconciles with the truth and stop indulging in some wishful thinking. We simply CANNOT afford to go into the WC with this guy at 7. If that happens, our WC campaign, more importantly, Sachin’s ODI swansong, is doomed to fail.
asterix Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 Same difference..:--D If there is a difference, how can it be the same? :dontknow: If there is a difference' date=' how can it be the same? :dontknow:[/quote'] You missed the smiley..:winky:
asterix Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 Oh yes. I totally forgot. Thanks Morris for reminding me. Yes, it's the last swan song of Sachin. Why are we deiberately screwing up our chances? I think Sachin should step in and use his 'powers' to sort this issue out at the 'higher level'. Dhoni is too adamant to change..
Karan114 Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 Jadeja can bat. He has the ability and technique. What he also has is a complete inability to play under even the slightest of pressure. His brain and body just freeze up' date= he has no idea of what shots to play under the situation, he starts haring up and down the pitch like a headless chicken, and the inevitable happens. Can he sober up if given enough chances? I really don't know, but signs are not looking too bright for him. + Textbook example of a batsman who chokes under pressure.
ZodiaC Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 "Jadeja needs to contribute more with bat. When he came into the team he was more of a batsman who could bowl. But now he has turned into more of a specialist bowler. He bowls at the death, he bowls in the power plays. So, I think he is the best potential we can turn into an all-rounder," Dhoni said ahead of Thursday's final in which India play Sri Lanka. The dostana continues.. WTF is he talking about? Potential and Jadeja shouldn't be mentioned in the same effin sentence. If they really need an allrounder, go for Pathan.He can't do any worse than Nehra in leaking runs anyways. He can still give us the early breakthroughs if he's given the new ball. And Yuvi, Viru or Raina can do a better job than what Jaddu does now. And thus we can play 2 specialist spinners + 3 seamers.
ZodiaC Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 Jadeja is nothing but another Dinesh mongia, the difference is that he had a better first class record and even in international matches used to chip in with 20's or 30's. So in a way Jaddu is worse than Mongia. And this guy is our potential allrounder for the future? What has the world come to!?
youngindia Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 sorry, dhoni and co, its your own ignorance of the real world that's the problem here. the problem here is "no time" for the world cup. its ridiculous to expect kohli or jadeja to be dominant in the international arena within 2 years after playing at u 19 level. they do not strike the ball well enough and that's a bare minumum.it will take some time to refine timing. they are not going to improve enuf in time for the world cup,. the selectors and dhoni are following a losing path here.
youngindia Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 The scary part is, none of what we have seen so far suggests that he has atleast one of the five listed characteristics. It isn’t simply enough to say ‘Oh, he can hold a bat, we think he can do well..’ the problem with your posts is you lack enuf appreciation of how player evolves stage by stage. a player is different when he is 20, when he is 25, when he is 30. first understand that what you see today is not going to be the case even 2 years down the line. second cut off this nonsense about power game.its about timing. it usually takes years to achieve spectacular timing. the reason kohli or jadeja do not clear boundaries consistently now is they do not strike it well enough,. they need some more years.
Patriot_Nikhil Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 He can bat --> Potential He is a decent bowler most times (def not the T20 WC) and even good some times Problem is you cant have him higher than No7 considering the ppl that you will be relegating to the lower order (Gambhir, Dhoni, UV, Raina, etc)... If you still want to play him but play him below No7, then you have Bhajji at No7... While Bhajji has played a few good knocks, he hardly inspires confidence as a stable No7 bat... So if you play Jaddu, no other option but to bat him at No7, which given his recent performances is proving too be disastrous. On the other hand the guy averages 33 with the bat and is bowling well in ODIs of late (averaging 44)... Interesting dilemma... Solution --> Play a batsman at No7 and that your bats can correct the bloodbath from your bowlers...
Clarke Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 Its all about yuvi and sehwag returning to the squad. They should together be able to bowl 10 overs under most circumstances. Mr. hunger strike will not be needed anymore.
Ranjha Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 Jadeja ko uthana padega if dhoni doesnt stop playing him for the love of our nation.
cowboysfan Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 jadeja is dead to me,this team has gone south after his inclusion in the national side.no price for guessing why.
Ranjha Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 jadeja is dead to me' date='this team has gone south after his inclusion in the national side.no price for guessing why.[/quote'] I mean you see him and you feel pity for the poor guy. If I see him around, I will pass him a roti or 2.
Manny_Pacquiao Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 Jadeja can bat. He has the ability and technique. What he also has is a complete inability to play under even the slightest of pressure. His brain and body just freeze up' date= he has no idea of what shots to play under the situation, he starts haring up and down the pitch like a headless chicken, and the inevitable happens. Can he sober up if given enough chances? I really don't know, but signs are not looking too bright for him. yep, a batting average of 38 or therebaouts suggests he can definitely bat. but his game isnt suited to batting at no.7. he can't slog. he puts too much pressure on the batsman at the other end by taking up too many dots. and WORST OF ALL. his running between the wickets. he is an AMATEUR at running between the wickets. i have lost count of the number of times, he would make a call and send the other guy back, or when he would cluelessly take off from the non striker's end. even in the last match vs pakistan he nearly ran out Suresh Raina. he is a weak link in this batting lineup and could easily cost india a victory with his shaky batting and stupid running between the wickets if the game gets close. he already has, actually. the most worrying thing is that dhoni says he is the best india has at this point in time. so i guess he isnt going anywhere.
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