Sid Posted July 22, 2010 Posted July 22, 2010 Yes. Agreed. But he's the Captain and has lost only his 2nd Test match ever as the skipper. So no one is going to utter a word against him (I guess) in the selection panel. wat the hell he could,is he hiding some great fast bowlers and not letting him play in the team,all this dhoni non sense should stop ,its our idiotic selectors who have picked yuvraj ,which i thought is one more horrendous selection in the their very esteem selection blunder list but looking at yuvis batting ,he looks in form and should score runs in this series
cowboysfan Posted July 22, 2010 Posted July 22, 2010 pujara looks like he is behind a bunch of players but who knows?.if they can drop mishra for no reason then they can defintely drop yuvi(who should never be picked for tests).
msb1991 Posted July 22, 2010 Posted July 22, 2010 Selectors have seemed to abandon logic in looking to groom Raina and Rohit Sharma for Test cricket. The fact is that they have done well in First Class cricket when given the chance, but they have not played enough Ranji Trophy or A team cricket to show consistency in different conditions against all bowlers. Pujara has shown unmatched consistency, excelling at the undoubtedbly higher level of cricket in England against West Indies A. He should be the key player who is looked at to replace Yuvraj. The selectors believe that because Raina and Rohit have shown proficiency at ODI level against good bowlers prove that they can handle the step up from FC cricket to Test cricket. However, when Pujara shows ability to play against international bowlers like Tonge, Baker, Bernard, Mahmood, Plunkett, etc - all doubts about whether he can step up, can be removed. Moreover, I disagree with any notice being taken of ODI cricket when regarding Test selection because it is a completely different game - different ball, different fields, different pitches, different restrictions - all totally different.
Sooda Posted July 22, 2010 Posted July 22, 2010 I imagine if Yuvraj is to be dropped it would be for Kohli. But he wont be for a little while yet, came good in the first innings, he should be stuck with for a while. In any case it would be unfair to stick Pujara at 6, hard place to bat in the lineup. Not least for a newbie.
msb1991 Posted July 22, 2010 Posted July 22, 2010 Indeed. I neglected to say that Yuvraj should not be dropped any time soon. He should get a prolonged run in the team and has hit valuable runs before - just needs to add consistency. Would be helpful to his cause if he could provide a few overs, like Marcus North has.
The Dark Horse Posted July 22, 2010 Posted July 22, 2010 Selectors have seemed to abandon logic in looking to groom Raina and Rohit Sharma for Test cricket. The fact is that they have done well in First Class cricket when given the chance' date=' but they have not played [b']enough Ranji Trophy or A team cricket to show consistency in different conditions against all bowlers. Pujara has shown unmatched consistency, excelling at the undoubtedbly higher level of cricket in England against West Indies A. He should be the key player who is looked at to replace Yuvraj. The selectors believe that because Raina and Rohit have shown proficiency at ODI level against good bowlers prove that they can handle the step up from FC cricket to Test cricket. However, when Pujara shows ability to play against international bowlers like Tonge, Baker, Bernard, Mahmood, Plunkett, etc - all doubts about whether he can step up, can be removed. Moreover, I disagree with any notice being taken of ODI cricket when regarding Test selection because it is a completely different game - different ball, different fields, different pitches, different restrictions - all totally different. That was how Yuvi was selected:winky:
akshayxyz Posted July 22, 2010 Posted July 22, 2010 I heard someone comment that, if Pujara is allowed in tests now, and if he fails, he will loose confidence. I say BS, what about this, he is being denied a chance, when he is playing at his best (not place, at least a chance), if you delay too much, he might loose confidence, and go back to shell. Another huge mistake in not picking Pujara is - Yuvraj has gotten enough chance to play alongside Laxman,Dravid,Sachin - still hasnt learnt much ( I think). If Pujara joins after these three leave, he may not get that privilege to share dressing room with them. Point being, if he is a future potential replacement of, lets say, Dravid, then let him share few matches with them.
msb1991 Posted July 22, 2010 Posted July 22, 2010 That was how Yuvi was selected:winky: Oh yes, I know - but it is a bit late to suddenly realise that a drop him suddenly from the XI. He is here now and should be given a fair shot over a prolonged period of time, something that only properly began when Ganguly retired.
The Outsider Posted July 22, 2010 Posted July 22, 2010 Oh yes' date=' I know - but it is a bit late to suddenly realise that a drop him suddenly from the XI. He is here now and should be given a fair shot over a prolonged period of time, something that only properly began when Ganguly retired.[/quote'] That is not correct, in fact is one of the biggest myths of Indian cricket. Yuvraj had got a continuous run of 13 test matches between our 2005 tour to Zimbabwe to the 2006 tour to West Indies. Even a player of Laxman's class was dropped to open up a spot for him. And later on Dravid was forced to open to allow Yuvraj to play in Australia. And Ganguly's retirement is two years old now. He is doing okay for now, but one has to question is he the best test match option we have.
The Dark Horse Posted July 22, 2010 Posted July 22, 2010 Oh yes' date=' I know - but it is a bit late to suddenly realise that a drop him suddenly from the XI. He is here now and should be given a fair shot over a prolonged period of time, something that only properly began when Ganguly retired.[/quote'] Yes, I think he'll do pretty well in this series at least will match his average, the real test is when we go outside the subcontinent. Having said that, we cant be sure that any youngster replacing him will do well. The only annoying thing is that he does the same mistakes again and again- Bowlers could literally plan his wicket and get instant results. Hope he works on his game- having people like Sachin and Dravid in the team, i dont think it will be impossible.
Clayton Bigsby Posted July 22, 2010 Posted July 22, 2010 There is no hope for Yusless, give him more time,WTF IS THAT BASED ON? A cancer who needs to be gotted rid off and fast and take that so called spinner with him
Ranjha Posted July 23, 2010 Posted July 23, 2010 Yuvraj looked good and now with murli gone, we can expect a 100 from yuvraj..looking forward to see him bat next match.
achilles Posted July 23, 2010 Posted July 23, 2010 wat the hell he could' date='is he hiding some great fast bowlers and not letting him play in the team,all this dhoni non sense should stop ,its our idiotic selectors who have picked yuvraj ,which i thought is one more horrendous selection in the their very esteem selection blunder list but looking at yuvis batting ,he looks in form and should score runs in this series[/quote'] Yuvi will come good in this series. Not only because he's a superb batsman but because he is a hurt Punjabi.
Clayton Bigsby Posted July 23, 2010 Posted July 23, 2010 Your logic that Yuvraj will make runs, is because he is a hurt Punajbi, what planet are you from? Many people are living in denial, we don't have a Warne or Akram that will blast SL out.
Ranjha Posted July 23, 2010 Posted July 23, 2010 Your logic that Yuvraj will make runs, is because he is a hurt Punajbi, what planet are you from? Many people are living in denial, we don't have a Warne or Akram that will blast SL out. how does a spinner like warne blast a team out? spinners dont blast, they bamboozle. anyways there is no murli in lanka now..so they only have one decent malinga which we can handle if we apply ourselves. Other batsmen performed worse than yuvraj in this test and looking at the fact that yuvi got out to murli both times and looked very comfortable against the rest, and he is not there now..I expect a big hundred from yuvraj.
Lord Posted July 23, 2010 Posted July 23, 2010 how does a spinner like warne blast a team out? spinners dont blast, they bamboozle. anyways there is no murli in lanka now..so they only have one decent malinga which we can handle if we apply ourselves. Other batsmen performed worse than yuvraj in this test and looking at the fact that yuvi got out to murli both times and looked very comfortable against the rest, and he is not there now..I expect a big hundred from yuvraj. dont worry Mendis will take care of Yuvraj
The Realist Posted July 23, 2010 Posted July 23, 2010 Yuvi will come good in this series. Not only because he's a superb batsman but because he is a hurt Punjabi. I am detecting some sarcasm there! :giggle: The sooner recycled garbage like Yuse is removed from the team the better. India have been carrying him for the past half a decade, a whole series was compromised in Australia just to shoe-horn this overhyped, overweight and one dimensional player into the team. And for what? How many match-winning performances have we had? He is simply not a test grade player. Never has and never while be - just look at the career stats. Seriously it's time to realise this is just is not working out and move on and give others a chance. You' don't stay in a dead-end relationship in the deluded thinking that it will somehow improve if you give it endless chances. Give me Ian "sherminator" Bell any day of the week cause at least he has improved after being given several opportunities.
Fontaine Posted July 23, 2010 Posted July 23, 2010 Selectors have seemed to abandon logic in looking to groom Raina and Rohit Sharma for Test cricket. The fact is that they have done well in First Class cricket when given the chance' date=' but they have not played [b']enough Ranji Trophy or A team cricket to show consistency in different conditions against all bowlers. Pujara has shown unmatched consistency, excelling at the undoubtedbly higher level of cricket in England against West Indies A. He should be the key player who is looked at to replace Yuvraj. The selectors believe that because Raina and Rohit have shown proficiency at ODI level against good bowlers prove that they can handle the step up from FC cricket to Test cricket. However, when Pujara shows ability to play against international bowlers like Tonge, Baker, Bernard, Mahmood, Plunkett, etc - all doubts about whether he can step up, can be removed. Moreover, I disagree with any notice being taken of ODI cricket when regarding Test selection because it is a completely different game - different ball, different fields, different pitches, different restrictions - all totally different. I don't see anything wrong with the likes of Raina/Pujara/Rohit not being in the test side for now. I would rather these guys continue to get vital experience on A tours, first class cricket and domestic cricket because they're still young enough to mature and refine their technique especially Raina who's more used to limited overs batting. Pujara, I agree has shown the temperament and technique required and so has Rohit to a certain extent. There's no doubt in my mind that with Dravid/SRT/Laxman all in the late 30's the time for these young guys is going to come very soon. Unless Yuvraj really flops in the next 4/5 tests then he should get an extended run to prove his worth.
Clayton Bigsby Posted July 23, 2010 Posted July 23, 2010 Laxman and Yuseless need to go, just wasting time and eating at opportunities that are best served by others
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