yoda Posted July 15, 2010 Posted July 15, 2010 Thats the whole point ' date=' he is not supposed to move out of the way of someone running towards him to celebrate/rub it in.[/quote'] aussie citizenship le liya kya? :giggle:
Pak_Forever Posted July 15, 2010 Posted July 15, 2010 Cricinfo says: As Asif celebrated that wicket he accidentally struck Ponting on the helmet...that won't improve his mood.:hmmm: Crapinfo at it again. Punter intentionally hit Asif. In Amer's incident, I blame Amer more as he needs to stay away from batsmen area once he gets them. Running into them will obviously result in collisions.
Desi Cartman Posted July 15, 2010 Posted July 15, 2010 aussie citizenship le liya kya? :giggle: yes .. many years ago .. but i m no fan of ponting :--D
Feed Posted July 15, 2010 Author Posted July 15, 2010 Lord's storm: Pakistan accuse referee Stuart Broad of bias toward Ricky Ponting over Mohammad Aamer bust-up Pakistan were involved in a furious exchange with match referee Chris Broad over the Ricky Ponting elbowing bust-up at Lord’s.More... Lord's storm: Pakistan accuse referee Stuart Broad of bias toward Ricky Ponting over Mohammad Aamer bust-up EXCLUSIVE By Lawrence Booth 14th July 2010 Pakistan were involved in a furious exchange with match referee Chris Broad over the Ricky Ponting elbowing bust-up at Lord’s. The ugly incident took place as ICC referee Broad visited the Pakistani dressing room on Tuesday evening to reprimand fast bowler Mohammad Aamer following his altercation with Australia skipper Ponting on the first day of the opening Test. A robust exchange ensued, with allegations that a member of the Pakistani camp swore at Broad as he left the dressing room. There are also allegations of a racial slur aimed at the former England Test opener, but this was denied by Broad last night. Fury: Ponting thrusts an elbow towards Aamer as the bowler celebrates in his follow-through It is understood it would be normal for the Pakistan captain, Shahid Afridi, to be present if the umpire was talking to one of his players. However, Broad last night denied this was the case. Broad’s stance infuriated the Pakistanis, who felt Ponting was the aggressor when he appeared to elbow the 18-year-old after Aamer had dismissed him for 26. And although the Pakistan Cricket Board have insisted the matter was closed, the row revives bitter memories of the tourists’ last visit to this country in 2006. On that occasion, Inzamam-ul-Haq’s men forfeited the fourth Test at The Brit Oval after the captain refused to lead his players out on to the field after tea on the fourth day following allegations of ball-tampering by umpires Darrell Hair and Billy Doctrove. Pakistan will play four Tests against England, starting later this month at Trent Bridge, and the hope is that their frustrations with officialdom here do not spill over into further trouble. Broad explained his decision to warn Aamer over his future conduct by citing a similar incident in the Twenty20 game at Edgbaston last week, when the teenager bumped into Australia vice-captain Michael Clarke during another wicket-taking celebration. ‘I told him that when he takes a wicket, he should celebrate with his team-mates rather than getting himself into the personal space of the outgoing batsman,’ said Broad. ‘It’s a spirit of cricket issue.’ But Pakistan’s sense of grievance at their treatment will not have been helped by the identity of the match referee in this game. Broad, who is the father of England fast bowler Stuart, has handed out punishments of one kind or another on nine occasions to Pakistanis during his seven years as an ICC official. He is also famous in Pakistan for refusing to leave the crease during a Test in Lahore in 1987 after he was given out caught behind.
achilles Posted July 15, 2010 Posted July 15, 2010 This is AWESOME. :yay: :aha: Broad :hehe: :hysterical:
DomainK Posted July 15, 2010 Posted July 15, 2010 I have no problems with the warnings given to Aamer. But Ponting should have received some fine in the least. That out stretched elbow can not be ignored. And yes, Broad is partial.
putrevus Posted July 15, 2010 Posted July 15, 2010 any man with two eyes can see Punter elbowed Aamer, yes he was invading his space but was elbowing warranted??no then how come that idio*t broad didn't see this like normal human beings saw this incident
DomainK Posted July 15, 2010 Posted July 15, 2010 any man with two eyes can see Punter elbowed Aamer, yes he was invading his space but was elbowing warranted??no then how come that idio*t broad didn't see this like normal human beings saw this incident He saw it. He just thought it was Ponting's right to elbow anyone within close proximity.
Texy Posted July 15, 2010 Posted July 15, 2010 Chris Broad is a known racist....how is he still in ICC, I'm not sure..... I'm with Pakistan on this one
putrevus Posted July 15, 2010 Posted July 15, 2010 He saw it. He just thought it was Ponting's right to elbow anyone within close proximity. there is big problem with ICC match referees, all white guys are totally biased with Broad leading the pack will not do anything to aussie players and Poms and all Asian guys (all of them have some inferiority complex) have no guts to do anything either. Have we ever seen any pommie or Aussie getting suspended.No you cant blame Ponting no one has dared to do anything to him and his teammates ,so they do as they please.
yoda Posted July 15, 2010 Posted July 15, 2010 If Aamer's celebration is OTT and deserves a warning, wonder what the ICC has done regarding Shane Watson's sendoffs which is real OTT where he literally curses at the player and not just run around in jubilation like Aamer did. Surely a match ban?
Fontaine Posted July 15, 2010 Posted July 15, 2010 if this is not about race and racial discrimination then what is this about. It's about one player almost running into another while the 2nd player reacted. Anything outside of that is your opinion, including anything about race.
putrevus Posted July 15, 2010 Posted July 15, 2010 It's about one player almost running into another while the 2nd player reacted. Anything outside of that is your opinion, including anything about race. My views are about Broad racial bias not ponting's reaction.Ofcourse it is my opinion and it concurs with Pakistan's team and many others.
King Tendulkar Posted July 15, 2010 Posted July 15, 2010 I agree Broad is a certified racist! These decisions On Ponting and Aamer have to be viewed through this fact.
Ram Posted July 15, 2010 Posted July 15, 2010 Broad has a history of questionable refeering, but I think this whole Aamer-Ponting issue was handled just right. When a bowler is running directly towards you at a brisk pace, of course there’s going to a reaction from the batsmen. What do you expect Ponting to do, just stand back and hope Aamer evades him? Some batsmen might have swayed away, Ponting probably raised his arm to brace himself for the impact. But the important part is, there was no explicit malicious intent from either side. No one way trying to hurt the other. When the adrenalin is pumping and players are excitied, things happen on the field. There is no need to go on a punishing rampage when it is quite clear that no party intended to cause any bodiliy harm. Was Aamer right in running directly at Ponting? No. Was Ponting right in raising his right elbow in a rather suspicious manner? No. But Aamer instigated the whole thing, which was probably why he was warned. By the way, why is Chris Broad still allowed to referee in matches involving asian teams, given the history of confrontation he has with us? The ICC will probably swear that despite all the allegations, Broad has been impartial and has done things by the book, but why invite trouble and unnecessary attention by having such controversial appointments? Don’t they know that, given Broad’s history, even reasonably justifiable decisions like these will come under a cloud? The whole situation is baffling.
asterix Posted July 15, 2010 Posted July 15, 2010 Why has Chris Broad never ever 'spoken' to Ponting for any of his behaviours? Ponting was not only elbowing in this case, he 'mouthed off' while leaving. The umpires too are baised and don't give proper feedback to the match refree. Billy Bowden is one of the prime examples.. The fact is that Broad has been a long time Beer buddy of Ponting and most of the Aussie players and hence doens't find anything wrong in their on-field behaviour...
Lord Posted July 16, 2010 Posted July 16, 2010 lol GG ran into watson to deliberately elbow him while here some idiot bowler came running towards potning and all he did was move his elbow for his own safety. No one has given me a satisfactory answer yet to how would have ponting known that Aamer would take a 90* degree turn when he was 2 inches away ? Also from the video its clear that they were so close that had ponting not moved his elbow, Aamer's elbow would have hit potining. Hating a player and a referee is one thing but its stupid to blindly ignore the fact that a 6.5 feet tall human was running towards a player and would have made a physical contact ( even if not , he was threatening to ). u dont put ur elbow out for self defence.Ponting could've swayed away or signalled Ameer to stop.as i said bowler celbrate like that all the time,they run towards the keeper n thier mates(happened in RP Singh-Pollock case too).its the batsman's job to avoid it n move away.still wen Amer saw that Ponting wasnt gonna move,he turned.but Ponting chose to elbow.its pretty clear he wanted to hurt Amer
Flyingarrow Posted July 16, 2010 Posted July 16, 2010 I hate ponting but feel that his act was intuitive in self defense where he did not extend his elbow outside his body. Mohd Aamer and some other not so clever bowlers who try to bring their celebration too close to the departing batsman need a kick in the butt as well. What Business Aamer had about going so close to Ponting in the first place. This idiot had pulled this trick on Tendulkar (may be after dismissing him in CT) but didn't get physical. I mean he is not a bull to run towards the batsman like that in the first place. Broad let him off easy but that doesn't take away from the fact that broad is a certified racist pig. Ponting is sure learning from German coach in manners of and dealing with nose picking. :)
Sachinism Posted July 16, 2010 Posted July 16, 2010 ^^ Totally agree. I'm surprised to see so many blaming Ponting. I hate the guy, but don't think he is at fault
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