SachDan Posted September 6, 2010 Author Posted September 6, 2010 Yes age will be a mitigating factor. I guess 2-3 year ban if found guilty and give him a chance to redeem himself...especially if it is found out that he bowled the no ball under the influence of his captain. He can clear his head and come back. If this is just a one-off case, ban him for five years but many previous matches involving Pakis are also under investigation and we don't know for how long he's been part of this fixing syndicate.
Hindustani Posted September 6, 2010 Posted September 6, 2010 haven't read the thread or other discussion going on but here is the thing - You can not have 2 different ruling for same crime just because one of the guilty has put his fake age to be 18. You also can not make the rules on the fly, something which people are asking for, either all should be banned or all should go scot-free
King Tendulkar Posted September 6, 2010 Posted September 6, 2010 If age is a factor' date=' then none of the pakis will be punished as they never age...[/quote'] Exactly. It wil just be another thing they fraud in, that they will lie even more about ages to escape harsh punishments. If anyone actually thinks aamer is 18 they are nuts. Expect pakis to debut now at 12 years old!
Sachinism Posted September 6, 2010 Posted September 6, 2010 Nailed it Absolutely. Lets take this opportunity to try and clean up cricket. If Amir wants to be let off lightly he'll need to co-operate
riwi999 Posted September 6, 2010 Posted September 6, 2010 I normally like Athers but I cannot agree with him on this. If leniency is shown because of the age, it will encourage players to start cheating as young as possible. 18 is young no doubt, but it is not young enough to not know that what he was doing was wrong. I said "life ban" earlier. And I still stand by that. Or at the very least, 10 years. If at all he is banned, it is more likely to be a few months IMO. Thanks to all the lobbying by the Athertons and Holdings of this world. These are the guys who weaken the game. I don't care if he is the greatest player on earth. The game is bigger than him. And that is what needs to go out clearly to all players. Whatever punishment the players get now (assuming they are found guilty and are punished) will be watched keenly by everybody around the world. Aspiring players need to realise that crime does not pay. Sorry, but a ban of a few months or a couple of years is nothing. Might as well scrap it altogether and let these guys go. Why pretend?
riwi999 Posted September 6, 2010 Posted September 6, 2010 Very well said, Boycs. A plea bargain for Aamer is not a bad idea. And if there are other rotten apples out there, they need to be exposed too. I have a feeling that there are other players there though only these three are in the limelight. Like Hameed said, you are a crook only if you are caught.
asterix Posted September 6, 2010 Posted September 6, 2010 I hope Amr gets let off by getting a lenient punishment. I hope being a young bowler, he becomes a 'role model' for many more young bowlers in Pakistan..I hope this cycle continues..If PCB is not taking any action on top of what ICC is taking who are we to protest? If PCB thinks Amir has not done any grave mistake and gives an impression that it's upto ICC to do whatever they need to, they'll not do anything to Amir for sullying the 'image' of PCB and Pakistan, then I hope more and more young Pak bowlers follow the 'path' which Amir took..
IKnowU Posted September 6, 2010 Posted September 6, 2010 Aamer should be given a plea bargain. Spit out everything aka the truth and expose everyone and he can be let off with a light consequence. We all know Aamer got seduced into this fiasco, this should be his chance to make something out of his career. Either spit out the truth or face the consequences with rest of the pack.
thongale Posted September 6, 2010 Posted September 6, 2010 Ban him for life if found guilty. No second thoughts. Weeds should be eliminated.
asterix Posted September 6, 2010 Posted September 6, 2010 I strongly feel ICC should get PCB to hand out the punishments/fines. ICC should let PCB know the charges etc. and let PCB to decide the best possible action. Unless PCB is involved, it will always be 'Them Vs Us'. PCB/Pakistan will go to town that they didn't wanted to take harsh action but ICC (controlled by BCCI) did this and that. PCB has been trying it's best to hide itself in this fiasco as if they don't have any responsibility other than trowing hissy fits and blaming the whole World. Let PCB decide what course of action that wish to take and they will be responsible for that action and not ICC. If ICC takes any action and if Amir gets off lightly and does fixing again in future, everybody, including PCB/Pakistan will blame ICC.
thongale Posted September 6, 2010 Posted September 6, 2010 ^^ AWTA But will PCB act in a mature way? Recent experiences show it is not the case.
asterix Posted September 6, 2010 Posted September 6, 2010 ^^ AWTA But will PCB act in a mature way? Recent experiences show it is not the case. No they'll not and they have to pay for it. And I hope they don't act in a mature way. I mean when have they acted in a mature way? But if you don't involve those tossers, they'll not take any responsibilities and will always be ready to blame everything on ICC and BCCI. This was PCB's failure and they are the PRIME culprits and they only have to DEAL with it. They cannot hide anywhere now and then again get their Corrupt High Commissioner to deal with ICC in future and blame the whole World. This is their problem and they themselves have to take action or take action on top of any ICC action. They cannot have their cake and eat it too. "Na Kaam Ke, Na Kaaj Ke, Dushman Anaaj Ke".. Saale Fekerz, good for nothing cricket board..
zen Posted September 6, 2010 Posted September 6, 2010 Some sound points by Sir GB. Some of this is similar to what I had said in "Guilty until proven innocent"
Asim Posted September 6, 2010 Posted September 6, 2010 (can a Poll be added into this thread regarding the same question as thread title)
Sachinism Posted September 6, 2010 Posted September 6, 2010 What options do you want - 2 year ban - 5 year ban - 2 year ban followed by rehabilitation - Chinese torture
Asim Posted September 6, 2010 Posted September 6, 2010 What options do you want - 2 year ban - 5 year ban - 2 year ban followed by rehabilitation - Chinese torture No, just 2 simple options: - Should be punished same as Asif and Butt? - Should be punished seperatly? (ofcourse lesser than Asif n Butt)
Lord Posted September 6, 2010 Posted September 6, 2010 options -life ban -life ban with a billion dollar fine -life ban with a jail -life ban with solitary confinement with Zaid Hamid :--D
Sachinism Posted September 6, 2010 Posted September 6, 2010 Aite hopefully one of the admins puts it up
vvvslaxman Posted September 6, 2010 Posted September 6, 2010 What options do you want - 2 year ban - 5 year ban - 2 year ban followed by rehabilitation - Chinese torture or one over against Harbhajan singh
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