coffee_rules Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 If SA bat till tea tommorow batting 2-2.25 days on a pitch like this, should be possible for Indian bats. I am hopeful.
saneindian Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 We need a huge batting effort in the 2nd innings. Lose or not, but let's at least send out the message we are here to fight and make SA earn the wickets.
fineleg Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 This test surely can be saved LOL! :haha: Wake up, the series is NOT in India As Yoda said' date=' we miss Zak. ![/quote'] Shehez, While India missed ZK, its not the only reason. Our bowlers are impotent. ZK can have done a trick or two. But the rest of the bowlers dont show up, its no use. For example, Instead of SA declaring at 600-7 (with ZK), they'll declare at 600-4 (without ZK). Until and unless the other doofuses of Indian bowling lineup put their hands up - this series is a lost cause. And we can stop chest-thumping #1 Team in the world, well we are currently as per rankings - wont be for too long. (That last line is NOT for you - Shehez)
gaurav92 Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 Its not NZ attack here and the Saffers will get us in less than a day.
SachDan Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 well 270 if they declare now.....the minimum they'll declare at is lunch tomorrow' date=' which leaves 215 overs. What's the highest we ever batted in the 2nd innings?[/quote'] Anyway they won't declare before tea tomorrow..we'll have to bat out more than 200 overs to save the test and it's not gonna be easy even with pitch easing out considerably.
Shehezaada Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 According to StatsGuru, the most we've managed in the 2nd innings: 510 runs in 209 overs against England -> Lost But we have batted out 180 overs against New Zealand, and 178 overs vs Australia. We've been setting this records....why not this one?
Shehezaada Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 LOL! :haha: Wake up, the series is NOT in India Shehez, While India missed ZK, its not the only reason. Our bowlers are impotent. ZK can have done a trick or two. But the rest of the bowlers dont show up, its no use. For example, Instead of SA declaring at 600-7 (with ZK), they'll declare at 600-4 (without ZK). Until and unless the other doofuses of Indian bowling lineup put their hands up - this series is a lost cause. And we can stop chest-thumping #1 Team in the world, well we are currently as per rankings - wont be for too long. (That last line is NOT for you - Shehez) that I agree with, but maybe Zaheer making some inroads could have worked them up a bit?
Sachin=GOD Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 We can draw this test - others (who are speculating whether we will loose this on day 4 or day 5) may not have so much confidence in our batsmen but I have.
Laaloo Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 Anyway they won't declare before tea tomorrow..we'll have to bat out more than 200 overs to save the test and it's not gonna be easy even with pitch easing out considerably. There's also rain possibility on days 4 and 5 so that's gonna play a big role.
gaurav92 Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 Rains are the only hope for India to save this game, otherwise its all over in this Test.
SachDan Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 We can draw this test - others (who are speculating whether we will loose this on day 4 or day 5) may not have so much confidence in our batsmen but I have. If the series is being held in India or anywhere in the sub-continent, everyone would have backed India to save the game but in South Africa it's a different ball game altogether.
fineleg Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 We can draw this test - others (who are speculating whether we will loose this on day 4 or day 5) may not have so much confidence in our batsmen but I have. Cannot save this in SA against in-form Steyn, Morne breathing fire. Real hostile bowling attack they have, and we need all batsmen to fire. Viru is a screwup in 2nd Inn, Gambhir/Raina looking clueless, Laxy has the weakness of getting bowled, only Dravid (not at his best) and Tendu. What can two batsmen do?? Dhoni will be a noshow as far as batting is concerned.
dial_100 Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 Trust me guys, it is not very difficult pitch. SRT, VVS, Bhajji were batting reasonably well. Everybody will try and score in the second innings. If Sehwag goes on for 70-odd overs, we will not lose this by innings. Even RD/SRT or VVS stay there for long enough then we can try to scoree 400+ runs in the second innings to give away right impression. We just need to convey them that they got us in the first innings 1-odd time. We will fight. If we get anything above 450+ in the second innings, I think we have achieved what we need to from this test. Now real issue is that we do not have ability to take 20 wickets right now. With Zak added in the team, equation changes little bit and we get some early break throughs in the second test. It is sure that we will lose this one. Now lets see how far we can extend it and cut down the margin.
gaurav92 Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 ^And still the outcome was 136 :( I will be happy if we can avoid an innings defeat :)
Sachin=GOD Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 Trust me guys' date=' it is not very difficult pitch. SRT, VVS, Bhajji were batting reasonably well. Everybody will try and score in the second innings.[b'] If Sehwag goes on for 70-odd overs, we will not lose this by innings. Even RD/SRT or VVS stay there for long enough then we can try to scoree 400+ runs in the second innings to give away right impression. We just need to convey them that they got us in the first innings 1-odd time. We will fight. If we get anything above 450+ in the second innings, I think we have achieved what we need to from this test. Now real question is we do not have ability to take 20 wickets right now. With Zak added in the team, equation changes little bit and we get some early break throughs in the second test. It is sure that we will lose this one. Now lets see how far we can extend it and cut down the margin. If Sehwag goes on for 70+ overs, we will probably score more than 450-500.
SachDan Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 If Sehwag goes on for 70+ overs' date=' we will probably score more than 450-500.[/quote'] When was the last time Viru lasted more than 70 overs in the 2nd innings of a test!?
Andy Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 Let sehwag bat 7 overs in the 2nd Inngs that will better his 2nd Inngs record.
Laaloo Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 When was the last time Viru lasted more than 70 overs in the 2nd innings of a test!? Probably Adelaide 2008
Sid Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 Major flashback to the 90s exactly this performance is so reminiscent of our crap teams in the 90's
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