Ratings on Indian Players

[rkt.india]

MS Dhoni - 4/10 - Captain Cool played well for his 90 in the first Test, but that wasn't enough to seal the deal.He looked vulnerable against Steyn's swinging ball, and had no answers to Morkel's bouncers.He scored some negative points for his field placements too along with a negative mindset, which perhaps was one off the reasons, why the game slipped out of our hands (3rd Test). Sreesanth 7/10 - He looked good at times, but was wayward in the first Test.He bowled with some heart in the 2nd and 3rd Test, and looked more like a bowler in rhythm.His consistency was the key in the final Test, where he bowled the right channel all the time, and didn't experiment much with the lengths he bowled (Although he manufactured some new runs for a latest ramp walk ups:D). Zaheer Khan 6.5/10 - Zaheer had an ordinary series.He was injured in the first Test, look out of colour in the 3rd test too.But he scored his points for his good partnership with Laxman which set the tone for an Indian win, and also the initial breakthroughs that he delivered in the Second Test, just made the win possible.All in all, a much better performance is expected from him in the Next Series.

You forgot Dhoni's vital contribution in first innings of Durban test...till the third test he was the highest run getter for india in this series...he virtually failed in only one capetown innings and if you give Zak 6.5 who took 10 wickets at 24 in two tests...though Zak was average in this series if I look at his bowling than you cant give Sreesanth more points than him who took wickets at 41 not much lesser than Ishant's 48....Sreessanth has not done anything special here.....whenever he did well, he could not sustain that and than he equaled that with wayward bowling and released the pressure...

[vishalvirsingh]

OP does not think India deserved to be ranked number 1 team. After reading his player rankings' date=' I understood why he thinks that way.[/quote'] Ishant sharma was Hopeless ..He was the worst pacer.. the other two fared OK..Sree and ZAK. but i had higher expectations from ZAK..he gets a 6 /10 frome and Sree also gets a 6/10 as he could not take wickets in the second ininings now...Ishant gets a 3/10 and possibly india needs to test UMESH YADAV now. As Jaidev is a 2/10 guy now for a test match..he is much worse than ishant and cannot be picked.

[gaurav92]

You forgot Dhoni's vital contribution in first innings of Durban test...till the third test he was the highest run getter for india in this series...he virtually failed in only one capetown innings and if you give Zak 6.5 who took 10 wickets at 24 in two tests...though Zak was average in this series if I look at his bowling than you cant give Sreesanth more points than him who took wickets at 41 not much lesser than Ishant's 48....Sreessanth has not done anything special here.....whenever he did well' date=' he could not sustain that and than he equaled that with wayward bowling and released the pressure...[/quote'] Well Dhoni clearly lost the points due to his captaincy blunders as I mentioned (read that again). Regarding Zak, yes he bowled well, but didn't bowl as well as he could have, and hence he got less than Sree, as expectations were very high, OTOH Sree has done a decent job, and the expectations from him weren't too high, so he did his job quite well there for me, but there again, opinions differ, you may have a different perspective to look at the performance, and its absolutely correct too, I respect your opinion that yes Zak bowled better than Sree, but IMO Zak didn't bowl as well as he could have or least as well as we expected him to.

[Lord]

Sehwag - 2/10 GG-8.5/10 RD-2.5/10 SRT-9/10 VVS-8/10 Pujara-3/10 Raina-1/10 Dhoni-6/10 Bhajji7.5/10 Zak-4/10 Sree-4/10 Ishant-1/10

[induapp]

I would say 7/10.

[gaurav92]

Sehwag - 2/10 GG-8.5/10 RD-2.5/10 SRT-9/10 VVS-8/10 Pujara-3/10 Raina-1/10 Dhoni-6/10 Bhajji7.5/10 Zak-4/10 Sree-4/10 Ishant-1/10

Very strict with your makrs Bhai :( Ishant deserves -100 though :P

[Lord]

Very strict with your makrs Bhai :( Ishant deserves -100 though :P

Sehwag underperformed way too much.considering form he was in coming in this series.should've given good starts but failed to do so except Centurion 2nd innings.threw his wicket away rather than bowler getting him out except yesterday n maybe Durban 1st innings. Zak did well at Durban but failed to replicate it this game,specially wen Bhajji needed support in 2nd innings.at one point was bowling under 120ks.thats not wat u want Sree was pathetic in 1st test,but gradually got better.got few wickets off bad shots too.but his jaffa to Kallis was terrific.this test he bowled better but still lacked control,especially 2nd innings. true about Ishant.he shold've really used his height like Morkel did,but was absolutely pathetic,his bowling to Boucher was what swung this test for me.even tight bowling would've been handy,but he released pressure instead of applying it.should be booted for good

[vishalvirsingh]

Virender Sehwag 3/10. - He did help us fight back in the first Test, but all in vain.Probably the reason why Smith decide to set a manmoth target was because of presence of this man in the XI.Although he didn't had a wonderful series, he still deserves a 3. Gautam Gambhir 8/10 - He was phenomenal in the third Test, although he looked edgy and streaky at times, but one can understand that, because of the conditions it wasn't easy out there.He batted with some passion on the final day, I can still remember his focus in the Napier Test, and this was almost the same as Napier, but against a better side which makes this innings very special. Rahul Dravid 3/10 - Got some jaffas, some absolute peaches, but all in all, a very disappointing Series for The Wall.We expected so much better outcomes from this man, but to be fair, he was unlucky at times, got run out once and played well on the final day of the Third Test.I expect him to come back strongly in the next Series. Sachin Tendulkar 9.5/10 - Well he was the only ton getter in the whole series, this itself speaks volumes about the tour he had.But again, he would have loved to see India winning after his brilliant 146 in the first innings, but not everything can go the way we want :). VVS Laxman 7.5/10 - Man for crisis.They say he plays well, and India wins, and that is exactly what happened.No one played well, India looked at reaching a fighting total, but this Man made sure we get beyond that, and along with Zak, stringed together a very vital partnership.I have never seen anyone bat so confidently with tail like he does, he thrives under such circumstances, and hence I have tons of respect for this Man.He always performs well when team needs it. Cheteshwar Pujara - 2/10 - He got 2 points just because of some good close in fielding, he never looked comfortable when he was at the crease, but since it was his first tour, we can forgive him as he didn't had any match practice there.But the illusion that some of us were in, about him performing well under trying and testing conditions seems to have taken a U-Turn.I do think he has some talent, but still needs some technical adjustments to survive against good seam attacks. MS Dhoni - 4/10 - Captain Cool played well for his 90 in the first Test, but that wasn't enough to seal the deal.He looked vulnerable against Steyn's swinging ball, and had no answers to Morkel's bouncers.He scored some negative points for his field placements too along with a negative mindset, which perhaps was one off the reasons, why the game slipped out of our hands (3rd Test). Harbhajan Singh 7/10 - Good Series for him.I know when the series commenced, no one thought of Bhajji bowling well, but he did manage to prove everyone wrong with his performance in Durban.The ball was turning, was bouncing, and Bhajji looked menacing, he pitched the ball in the right channel, bowled at the right pace, allowed the ball to bite the surface, and purchased some wickets with skills.He also looked threatening on Day 4, and got us 4 early wickets.He loses his points for not being consistent enough when the pitch had flatten out, and due to his bad performance in first Test. Sreesanth 7/10 - He looked good at times, but was wayward in the first Test.He bowled with some heart in the 2nd and 3rd Test, and looked more like a bowler in rhythm.His consistency was the key in the final Test, where he bowled the right channel all the time, and didn't experiment much with the lengths he bowled (Although he manufactured some new runs for a latest ramp walk ups:D). Zaheer Khan 6.5/10 - Zaheer had an ordinary series.He was injured in the first Test, look out of colour in the 3rd test too.But he scored his points for his good partnership with Laxman which set the tone for an Indian win, and also the initial breakthroughs that he delivered in the Second Test, just made the win possible.All in all, a much better performance is expected from him in the Next Series. Ishant Sharma 0/10 - He was the most disgusting part of the tour, his no ball spree, his inefficiency to bowl at the right channel all the time, his inconsistency in hitting the right lines was the main reason why couldn't build the pressure on the SAF and allowed them to score freely in the second innings of the Third Test after we had them in our net with 6 down for nothing substantial.We had Bhajji and Sree bowling their hearts out to build some pressure, and here Ishant was releasing all the pressure applied, with his bowling, for which even "ordinary" is a compliment. In a nut shell, it was a series of ups and downs.India had their share of ups and downs as well.Both the teams looked very competitive, and we saw some really grooving, absorbing Test Cricket.It was a splendid series, and that is what one expects when a No.1 side clashes with a No.2 side ;-)

Yes IShant needs to be replaced by Umesh Yadav...i dont think any other guy is good enuf for a test 11. Mithun seems to be slower and Umesh is preferred, nehra is not fit enuf to bowl for 5 days. even zak looks UNfit and he slows down considerably with the new ball. Praveen Kumar does not swing the old ball and once he does not swing he does not look a international baller at all.

[rkt.india]

Sehwag - 2/10 GG-8.5/10 RD-2.5/10 SRT-9/10 VVS-8/10 Pujara-3/10 Raina-1/10 Dhoni-6/10 Bhajji7.5/10 Zak-4/10 Sree-4/10 Ishant-1/10

best rating till now:two_thumbs_up:

[pensionplan]

Sachin Tendulkar 9.5/10 - Well he was the only ton getter in the whole series, this itself speaks volumes about the tour he had.But again, he would have loved to see India winning after his brilliant 146 in the first innings, but not everything can go the way we want :). VVS Laxman 7.5/10 - Man for crisis.They say he plays well, and India wins, and that is exactly what happened.No one played well, India looked at reaching a fighting total, but this Man made sure we get beyond that, and along with Zak, stringed together a very vital partnership.I have never seen anyone bat so confidently with tail like he does, he thrives under such circumstances, and hence I have tons of respect for this Man.He always performs well when team needs it.

VVS gets all the praises here but SRT gets the marks almost perfect marks mind you. May be SRT=God carries some handicap points and gets added to the final tally. Anyway to each his own.

[Ranjha]

Sehwag-2/10 Gambhir-8/10 Dravid-2/10 Tendulkar-9/10 Laxman-8.5/10 Raina-1/10 Pujara-2.5/10 Dhoni-5.5/10 Singh 8.5/10 Khan-6/10 Sharma-0/10 Sreesanth-6/10

[bihutoli]

If Ishant gets a zero, Udankat gets a - 2 which I think is fair enough and speaks volume about our fast bowling resources.

[Watson87]

Ishant deserves more points than Raina, he did take a few wickets, he is not as bad as some of you guys are stating. Ishant will only get better, Dravid had a horrible series too, same with Veeru but I don't think Ishant deserves a 0, maybe 0.5.

[The Outsider]

It seems with "predictability of faithful geyser" you are incapable of presenting a counter point or even staying relevant to the thread. Actually now it is clearer why my arguments are lost on you. Maybe I ll dumb it down for you next time. But just to reiterate for your benefit, I have no interest in the actual stat of No.1 as per ICC ranking. They have their system and India is No.1 according to them. As for the tenability of rankings, prior to this series India had not won a test series against SA in India in last 5 years ( drawn two ), neither drawn or won one in SA, they had not won in Aus, SA have won in Aus., both of them have won in Eng. After his tour India have proved their mettle in SA by drawing (not winning) series which tells you as much about India's record prior to this as much as it explains the "ostrich" approach of so called Indian fans.. So, the question was is India the "undisputed" best team in the world ? I never said there is any other "undisputed" best team in the world. But the crux of the matter was how much should one harp about the ranking and how much should one look at Indian cricket's record at these places from historical perspective. To me you don't become a heavyweight champion till you play and win against the toughest competitors in toughest conditions. For lesser souls like you, the stat of No.1 from ICC might suffice.

LOL! Grow a funny bone, man! It was a comment made in jest. Anyhow, we've already discussed all this before and I don't feel like rehashing the same arguments. Till, you understand that if there is a class taking an exam, there will always be a number 1 student and he will be undisputed as long as fair practices were followed, there is no point.

[rkt.india]

I have divided 10 points/3 tests= 3.33 points per test Sehwag-1.5+0.5+0=2/10 Gambhir-2+DNP+3.33=5.33/10 Dravid-1+0.5+0.5=2/10 Tendulkar-3.33+1+3.33=7.66/10 Laxman-0.5+3.33x1.5+1=4.83+1.67=6.50/10 (since we won 2nd test so those points will be 1.5 times better than others) Raina-0/10 Pujara-DNP+1+0=1/10 Dhoni-3+1+1=5/10 Singh 0.5+2.5+3=6/10 Khan-DNP+3.33+2=5.33/10 Sharma-0.3+0.3+0.3=0.9/10 Sreesanth-0+2+2=4/10

[kabira]

well..did we have superselector for this?? Just see the points there. Only issue will be Laxman's 96 which should be 1.5 times per run than runs at Cape town.

[CSK Fan]

VVS gets all the praises here but SRT gets the marks almost perfect marks mind you. May be SRT=God carries some handicap points and gets added to the final tally. Anyway to each his own.

It was 2 innings vs 1, wasnt it?

[gaurav92]

VVS gets all the praises here but SRT gets the marks almost perfect marks mind you. May be SRT=God carries some handicap points and gets added to the final tally. Anyway to each his own.

Well mate, I say that his knock got us the victory, but we also can't undermine the fact that he failed in 3 innings, and Sachin on the other hand has runs on his side to support my point.And yes I gave him 7.5 despite not scoring well in the First Test, which speak for his 96 in great volumes, No ?

[The Outsider]

It was 2 innings vs 1' date=' wasnt it?[/quote'] His first innings 38 was also the highest score from either side in the first innings and just one short of the second highest score of the match.

[CSK Fan]

His first innings 38 was also the highest score from either side in the first innings and just one short of the second highest score of the match.

True. Also the difference between the second and the third test was to do with the performance of our bowling attack. Our batting was good in both