rkt.india Posted January 25, 2011 Posted January 25, 2011 Yesterday. I watched the T20 match between NSW vs Queensland and this 17-year-old genuinely quick fast bowler was playing his 3rd match was bowling 145kph. He was really quick and impressive and had good line and lengths. Has already taken 7 wickets in 3 T-20 games at an average of 11.42, strike rate of 10.2, and economy of 6.66. He took 3 wickets in yesterday's match. He is one to watch out for in the future in world cricket. His cricinfo profile: http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/player/489889.html Here's an article related to him. http://www.bigpondsport.com/dont-rush-cummins--hopes/tabid/91/newsid/66644/default.aspx Don't rush Cummins - Hopes As impressed as James Hopes was with Patrick Cummins, the ex-international all-rounder did not want to see the young NSW quick in Australian colours any time soon. The youngest player to debut for NSW in almost 50 years continued his stellar rise with a match-turning 3-24 in the Blues' 17-run Twenty20 win over the Bulls on Monday night. The 17-year-old clean bowled Hopes during his stunning burst which featured deliveries reaching 145kph. 'He's 17, is he? That's a fair clip for a 17-year-old,' Hopes said. The Queensland captain predicted a 10-year international career for Cummins, but didn't want the teenager to be rushed into the Australian team. Cummins is already involved in a tug of war between NSW and the Centre of Excellence in Brisbane. The Blues want to groom the youngster for higher honours rather than see him relocate to the Centre of Excellence. Hopes hoped the powers that be took a long term view of Cummins, saying fast-tracking the teenager may lead to burn out. 'The kid is 17. Why don't you let him live his life a little bit before you start pushing him into too much,' he said. 'If you give him three or four years (to develop) what is he then - the grand old age of 21, 22? 'He is going to be a good player but the trick is not to see a good player and say we've got to pick him for this, this and this. 'He will be a good player in his early 20s and then he can be up for a 10-year international career.' But NSW batsman Ben Rohrer - who hit a match-saving 47 not out on Monday - said Cummins would benefit under the Blues structure. 'The way he is bowling at the moment you want to keep him in the squad and keep building his skills,' he said. 'Bowling at 145kph is exciting because he is only going to get stronger. 'I have only faced him once in the nets and he is pretty scary - I tried to get out of there as quick as I could. 'It's great to play with these kids - they have so much passion for the game it rubs off on everyone else.' Hopes could not hide his envy over the Blues' young stocks which also include 18-year-old Sean Abbott, who claimed 3-15 on Monday night. 'They have got some special young players - they are growing on trees down there.' NSW must win their final Twenty20 clash against Queensland at ANZ Stadium on Saturday night to cement a finals berth. Teen dream: Pace prospect rips through Bulls http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/teen-dream-pace-prospect-rips-through-bulls-20110125-1a37c.html If Patrick Cummins can ever live up to his soaring potential, the sprinkling of cricket fans at the Gabba last night will count themselves among the lucky few who witnessed the moment he took flight. His superlative spell of 140km/h-plus fast bowling was as swift as it was destructive. It was three overs to give hope to Australian punters after the most dismal of Ashes summers. His teammates should have taken him to the German Club and shouted him a frosty lager, if only he was old enough to drink. Advertisement: Story continues below At 17, it's just Cummins' third game at this level of cricket but already the drums are beating loud and clear. Decent judges, inspired by his 145km/h rockets, are daring to dream of the day when the youngster from NSW is wearing a cap of green, not blue. It's difficult to avoid being entranced by the possibilities. The kid from Penrith can't vote but he can send seasoned state cricketers packing. His whippy action, with a hint of Dale Steyn, generates tantalising pace that is only going to climb the scales as he clambers out of his teens. It wasn't just the manner of his wickets – two of his victims were clean bowled – but the quality. With the Bulls chasing a mediocre score of 141 for victory in their T20 Big Bash game and needing only to cruise, Cummins sent the top three back to the sheds to start a collapse that ended with the home side finishing short at 9-123. Chris Simpson (11) went first, having his stumps shattered as he tried to up the ante. Bulls captain James Hopes (1) was next, slashing wildly as Cummins found the target again before underperforming import Michael Lumb (10) skied one to be caught brilliantly by Sean Abbott (3-15), who at just 18 was almost as eye-catching. Cummins came back on to bowl the last over but some cheap runs in the dying balls couldn't take the shine off a night where he collected 3-24 and announced himself as one of the best fast-bowling prospects since Craig McDermott, who debuted for Australia in 1984-85 as a 19-year-old against the West Indies. The debate over Cummins' development is already in full flight, with NSW eager to keep him on familiar turf but Cricket Australia's Centre of Excellence at Albion keen to bring him into their system. Queensland captain James Hopes, who didn't have much to talk about last night in terms of the game, was happy to offer his thoughts on Cummins, urging CA to let him live his life and not be tempted to fast-track his talents. “He's 17 is he? That's a fair clip for a 17-year-old. Now the trick for Cricket Australia is not to rush him into anything. Give him time to grow into his body. They've [NSW] got some special young players. They're growing them on trees,†Hopes said. “The kid's 17. Why don't you let him live his life a little bit before pushing him into too much? If you give him three or four years, he's the grand old age of 21. He's a good player. The trick is not to see a good player in a few games and say we have to pick him in this, this and this. “Let him live a bit. He'll be a good player in his early 20s. Don't rush him.†The loss puts a serious dent in Queensland's hopes of making the finals of the Big Bash but their charge isn't without hope. Sound wins over WA at the Gabba tonight and a win in the rematch with the Blues in Sydney on Saturday will give them a puncher's chance. “We've done the maths already and we knew we had to win one of these two games. We would have preferred it to be this one. We've got to win our last two games and end up on six points with a few other teams,†Hopes said. Some of the shots from the Bulls won't be required viewing on the video screen but Hopes could find some positives. His bowlers performed with discipline only to be undone by man-of-the-match Ben Rohrer, whose unbeaten 47 off 25 balls proved to be the decisive knock. Michael Neser, the 20-year-old South African born all-rounder, finished with 3-33 and looks like becoming a long-term member of the Queensland set-up. “He's getting better and better. He's got a bit of go about him. We haven't seen the best of his batting but that will come. We're going to keep picking him and give him every chance,†Hopes said. Some poor fielding didn't help Queensland, with a number of run-outs there for the taking should they have been able to hit the stumps. Tonight's match against WA starts at 7pm, with many of those affected by the floods being given free tickets to come and enjoy a night away from the big clean.
rkt.india Posted January 25, 2011 Author Posted January 25, 2011 http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/nsw-hint-homes-the-real-centre-of-excellence-for-young-bowler-20110122-1a0it.html PROMISING Blues fast bowler Patrick Cummins will be urged to stay in NSW rather than accept an offer to live at the Centre of Excellence in Brisbane in what appears to be a rebuke by Blues management of the national development system. A wide-ranging review of Australian cricket is expected in the wake of the Ashes loss, and this is likely to include an assessment of the domestic competitions and the player development structure. NSW administrators, however, are keen to show their state has a record of success in developing players for higher honours. They want other states to lift their games. Advertisement: Story continues below ''A few states just send talent scouts around now and try to pick out the eyes of those states that are doing the hard work,'' Blues selector Brian Taber said. ''NSW aims to develop players through under-age systems and a strong grade cricket competition. Every state gets allocated the same amount of money from CA. But some states are more interested in paying off enormous costs for infrastructure than player development.'' Taber said he was happy for players to leave NSW if it was in their best interest. He believes, however, that the 17-year-old Cummins is on the right path now and should stay in Sydney. ''He's had quite a few approaches to go interstate already,'' said Taber, a former Test representative who has spent more than 30 years working with state youth teams. ''He's just finished his HSC and he wants to go to university. The Centre of Excellence has been on to him, wanting him to go up there full-time. I think that could be the worst possible scenario. ''The best thing for Patrick would be to stay in NSW and we'll help him through his university degree and when he has time he can work here under our supervisors and be monitored. He's enjoying life and enjoying his cricket. Let's keep it that way.'' Cummins holds a Basil Sellers Scholarship which, among other aims, is intended to help talented young cricketers with education costs. On Wednesday, the Penrith paceman made his debut in a Twenty20 match against Tasmania in Sydney. He impressed with 3-29 in a narrow loss. ''Over the last couple of years we've seen Josh Hazlewood, Tim Armstrong, Nic Maddinson and others come through,'' Taber said. ''Patrick Cummins is one we've been watching for about the past 12 months or so and has exploded onto the scene now. He's a great talent. ''It's important for us to hang on to guys like Mitchell Starc and Josh Hazlewood, the guys who've come through our system and have a great future. They're outstanding young players and I'd prefer them to stay in NSW. I'd rather they didn't go to the Centre of Excellence.'' Maddinson, a left-handed batsman, made his Sheffield Shield debut in October, and has already accumulated 365 runs at 52. Taber said NSW were reaping dividends from investment in grassroots cricket. ''As long as I can remember NSW has had exhaustive selection processes for under-age national championships, including country kids, schools and clubs,'' the selector said. ''It's meant that NSW hasn't missed many talented players. ''We've had the right people looking after the programs and we've had a board that's supported cricket at grassroots level. ''We've got good programs that are well administered and well funded and, because of that, we're able to produce top players.''
diegovegaz Posted January 25, 2011 Posted January 25, 2011 yes, i saw him was pretty good in his debut game bowled a magnificent 20th over in the next game
Sachinism Posted January 25, 2011 Posted January 25, 2011 I think he was the guy Shane Warne tweeted about
Lord Posted January 25, 2011 Posted January 25, 2011 yeah saw him.there was another youngster,Shaun Abbot,both bowled 140+ n were accurate,so embarassing to see youngsters hitting 140+ n be accurate while our national team pacers get clobbered bowling at 125ks
hari504504 Posted January 26, 2011 Posted January 26, 2011 145 at 17 !!..when a fast bowler is still maturing.. he'd be hitting 100mph by the time he is in his 20s..
Serani Posted January 26, 2011 Posted January 26, 2011 145 at 17 !!..when a fast bowler is still maturing.. he'd be hitting 100mph by the time he is in his 20s.. Its impossible to tell
vvvslaxman Posted January 26, 2011 Posted January 26, 2011 145 at 17 !!..when a fast bowler is still maturing.. he'd be hitting 100mph by the time he is in his 20s.. That is somewhat resembling Pakistan fan's claim. A myth. As you get older you gain pace. By the time you turn 50 you will bowl at 789 kph :cantstop: .
Laaloo Posted January 26, 2011 Posted January 26, 2011 145 at 17 !!..when a fast bowler is still maturing.. he'd be hitting 100mph by the time he is in his 20s.. That's paki logic right there :buba:
bulbul Posted January 26, 2011 Posted January 26, 2011 Anything can happen remember Ishanth hitting 145 in OZ ... before that series he is Used to bowl at around 135 in India against Pak no need to discuss his current speed :)
hari504504 Posted January 26, 2011 Posted January 26, 2011 That is somewhat resembling Pakistan fan's claim. A myth. As you get older you gain pace. By the time you turn 50 you will bowl at 789 kph :cantstop: . only because he is physically still 'maturing' in his teens ..he'd get a lot stronger by the time he exits his teens. and ofcourse the reverse starts happening once he gets into the late-twenties.
Dravid Posted January 26, 2011 Posted January 26, 2011 That is somewhat resembling Pakistan fan's claim. A myth. As you get older you gain pace. By the time you turn 50 you will bowl at 789 kph :cantstop: . :hysterical: pakis, thx big to allah for creating them, mashallah
rkt.india Posted January 27, 2011 Author Posted January 27, 2011 only because he is physically still 'maturing' in his teens ..he'd get a lot stronger by the time he exits his teens. and ofcourse the reverse starts happening once he gets into the late-twenties. I do not think so..Take an example of Andrew Flintoff..In 2000s at an age of 24-25 Flintoff used to bowl at around 135 and then in his late 20s to low 30s when he retired at 33 he used to bowl 140-150..Brett Lee at the age of 34 still bowling 140-150s..same with Akhtar at 35 bowls 145, Dirk Nannes is 35 year old and still bowls fast... These are also the example that injuries does not make you slow...and all these pacers had a fair share of injuries specially Brett Lee, Flintoff, and Akhtar...it is a personnel's choice to slow down to prevent injuries and to play more matches and prolong the career...like Zak who used to bowl 140s did and also Munaf....
hitman1980 Posted January 27, 2011 Posted January 27, 2011 He has just played t20s!!! how can he be rated .. lolzz Aussies r so desperate to showcase their talent ..
rkt.india Posted January 27, 2011 Author Posted January 27, 2011 He has just played t20s!!! how can he be rated .. lolzz Aussies r so desperate to showcase their talent .. He is fast and only 17 in itself is a reason to hype him
hitman1980 Posted January 27, 2011 Posted January 27, 2011 145 is fast?? u can find so many guys who r 145 and fast .. may be not in India :D .. but still they r all over the world .. Nothing special to be hyped abt .. come on guys just 2-3 t20s and this guy is hyped .. lolzz Let him play some proper first class cricket .. This is nothing but a desperate attempt by aussie media to showcase their talent.. they know they have already gone bankrupt of talent ..
rkt.india Posted January 28, 2011 Author Posted January 28, 2011 145 is fast?? u can find so many guys who r 145 and fast .. may be not in India :D .. but still they r all over the world .. Nothing special to be hyped abt .. come on guys just 2-3 t20s and this guy is hyped .. lolzz Let him play some proper first class cricket .. This is nothing but a desperate attempt by aussie media to showcase their talent.. they know they have already gone bankrupt of talent .. There are not many bowlers who bowl 145...you can count on your fingers and he is bowling 145 at 17 years of age...can't you see the difference?tell me how many there who bowled 145 at 17?
CG Posted January 28, 2011 Posted January 28, 2011 Anything can happen remember Ishanth hitting 145 in OZ ... before that series he is Used to bowl at around 135 in India against Pak no need to discuss his current speed :) 2w-RaJjumLo 152km/h to be exact-
rkt.india Posted January 28, 2011 Author Posted January 28, 2011 Anything can happen remember Ishanth hitting 145 in OZ ... before that series he is Used to bowl at around 135 in India against Pak no need to discuss his current speed :) This only happens with Indian pacers...not Australians
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