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WTF.....that's not true. I know many golts who are certainly not genius but are doing pretty good in life. Yes but many of them at one point or other tried to give IIT-JEE a chance. I was smart enough to know my capabilities, when my dad asked me once if I would like to give the entrance exam a shot, I chucked and said "please". :P
omg-this was exactly my experience too.
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@Raghav - guess you missed the word - baloney' date=' even though you highlighted it. :).[/quote'] I had not missed that word and I understand that Ram does not agree with the notion.Yet putting down hard work of boys is something uncalled for when this thread is about appreciation of their success.
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^@#20 Besides - However many tutions they take, students who are not genuinely passionate about Maths/Science - will not get through JEE (definitely not good ranks). And the ones who are not passionate, will find their way to timepass in those coaching classes. But, yes parents should keep their eyes open and if they see their kid is not the maths-material, they should not push them, rather help them realize their passions.

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I had not missed that word and I understand that Ram does not agree with the notion.Yet putting down hard work of boys is something uncalled for when this thread is about appreciation of their success.
Agree completely - the discipline/hard work part should be imparted early on. And that applies to every field - (except Bollywood may be).
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WTF.....that's not true. I know many golts who are certainly not genius but are doing pretty good in life. Yes but many of them at one point or other tried to give IIT-JEE a chance. I was smart enough to know my capabilities, when my dad asked me once if I would like to give the entrance exam a shot, I chucked and said "please". :P
I am sure what you are saying is the truth, my comment was half tongue in cheek
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^@#20 Besides - However many tutions they take, students who are not genuinely passionate about Maths/Science - will not get through JEE (definitely not good ranks). And the ones who are not passionate, will find their way to timepass in those coaching classes. But, yes parents should keep their eyes open and if they see their kid is not the maths-material, they should not push them, rather help them realize their passions.
Exactly!!! I felt sorry for most of my friends who appeared for JEE. Some of them were not even as good in studies as I was, and I was just above average at best. They were just not cut out for this stuff. I was lucky my parents never pressurized me. :icflove:
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I am sure what you are saying is the truth' date=' my comment was half tongue in cheek[/quote'] I guess i got a little carried away. :P
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^@#20 Besides - However many tutions they take, students who are not genuinely passionate about Maths/Science - will not get through JEE (definitely not good ranks). And the ones who are not passionate, will find their way to timepass in those coaching classes. But, yes parents should keep their eyes open and if they see their kid is not the maths-material, they should not push them, rather help them realize their passions.
:hysterical::hysterical: yeah, all the passion for math and science in those passionate people dries out when half the people end up doing MBA in few years and selling soap and manipulating excel files :two_thumbs_up: Point is: passion is neither necessary nor sufficient to do well in something like JEE. You need some aptitude and rest is just bloody mindedness.
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:hysterical::hysterical: yeah, all the passion for math and science in those passionate people dries out when half the people end up doing MBA in few years and selling soap and manipulating excel files :two_thumbs_up: Point is: passion is neither necessary nor sufficient to do well in something like JEE. You need some aptitude and rest is just bloody mindedness.
I did not intend to say that being passionate about maths and science is necessary & sufficient condition that is why I added - definitely not the good ranks. Likewise - aptitude+hardwork is also not necessary and sufficient condition, esp when put against a passionate person with similar aptitude. Also, who said one has to carry a single passion through out their life? It is natural for people to get motivated by high paying jobs. What is the point in being passionate for carrom, if it cannot pay for your living expenses. Also who said one cannot cease to be passionate about anything at all anymore, lot of ******* happens in life. Also, most of the 'passionate for math' people who happen to chose MBA (over research/MS ) - still go for quant kind of work post MBA.
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I did not intend to say that being passionate about maths and science is necessary & sufficient condition that is why I added - definitely not the good ranks.
I am talking good ranks. Lots of CS/EE grads from IITs go straight to IIMs...:dontknow:
Also, who said one has to carry a single passion through out their life? It is natural for people to get motivated by high paying jobs. What is the point in being passionate for carrom, if it cannot pay for your living expenses.
Agree, but my point still remains.
Also, most of the 'passionate for math' people who happen to chose MBA (over research/MS ) - still go for quant kind of work post MBA.
Thats bullcrap . Quant work after MBA is at pretty retarded level. Real quant work (of any depth whatsoever) is still done by math/physics/engineering PhDs and maybe some people with MS in Finance type of degrees.
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I am talking good ranks. Lots of CS/EE grads from IITs go straight to IIMs...:dontknow:
Lots != most. most != All. and using "All" does not exclude the possibility of exceptions. And things do not stay same forever or have been same forever. I guess most of the top rankers (CS/EE), until around mid/late-90s batches preferred MS/PhD over IIMS - At least the ones who were genuinely good at cs/maths (top CGPAs). And many of those "CS/EE going for IIMS" do it mainly for the money part and since they find it easy to crack the math part of CAT. Back to JEE. When I said being passionate about Maths/Science - I meant enjoying the process and JEE process is all about maths/science. And I do not see anyone with sufficient aptitude putting that extra hardwork - if he is not enjoying it.
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Btw - as for most of the teenagers, I doubt whether you can actually force them into doing things against their wish (in other words, make them do something they are not enjoying). They are as cynical/stubborn/rebellious as any archetypical 60+ y/o cynic. The bloody-mindedness attitude (against genuine-interest) comes with time and other practicalities of life.

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Golts are weird (I am one but was born and brought up in Chennai so more of a machi)' date=' they are either outright geniuses or complete dip*****s, wonder why.[/quote'] +1
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