punjabi_khota Posted June 6, 2011 Posted June 6, 2011 http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/06/06/live-blog-anthony-weiner-news-conference/?hp So it WAS his pic and he tweeted it :hysterical::hysterical::hysterical: What a ****ing dumb****...:headshake:
sangrock Posted June 6, 2011 Posted June 6, 2011 :hysterical: He has proved himself as a congressman by being involved in a sex-scandal! I think he can be the president now :cantstop:
yoda Posted June 6, 2011 Posted June 6, 2011 If only Bill Clinton had done this before he went before the Grand Jury. As they say, it is never too late. He was dumb, but smart enough to realize that he better speak up now.
Ram Posted June 6, 2011 Posted June 6, 2011 A morally bankrupt society produces morally bankrupt leaders. The recent spate of sex scandals among US politicians shows that, behind all the expensive suits and well groomed looks, lurk some grade A perverts. :headshake: From a personal point of view, I had had developed a lot of respect for Weiner, especially during the healthcare debate. He was one of the few dems who seemed to have the balls to stand up for what he thought was right. Now, it seems like not only does show balls during political discourse, bit also shows his weiner to women on the internet. Goodbye, political career of new York congressman Tony wiener! You will be missed!
Ram Posted June 6, 2011 Posted June 6, 2011 Just saw the press conference of him making the confession. Poor guy, seemed totally broken which is weird because he generally comes across as so confident and forthright. Too late dude, should have had all the guilt before sending pictures of your willy.
gs Posted June 7, 2011 Posted June 7, 2011 Not really sure why the public should judge this Weiner based on what he did in his personal life?!? He might be morally bankrupt, but that didn't seem to affect his performance as a politician.
beetle Posted June 7, 2011 Posted June 7, 2011 Not really sure why the public should judge this Weiner based on what he did in his personal life?!? He might be morally bankrupt' date=' but that didn't seem to affect his performance as a politician.[/quote'] agree.
DomainK Posted June 7, 2011 Posted June 7, 2011 Not really sure why the public should judge this Weiner based on what he did in his personal life?!? He might be morally bankrupt' date=' but that didn't seem to affect his performance as a politician.[/quote'] Politicians are judged by everything they do in their lives - public or private. In fact, all celebrities and public figures face the same problem. Nothing new in it. And I can not see how a politician can be "morally bankrupt" and still be trusted by the public to lead them. How does that work?
Guest Gunner Posted June 7, 2011 Posted June 7, 2011 Politicians are judged by everything they do in their lives - public or private. In fact' date=' all celebrities and public figures face the same problem. Nothing new in it. [b']And I can not see how a politician can be "morally bankrupt" and still be trusted by the public to lead them. How does that work? I had no idea that a high moral score was mandatory to be a politician. Btw, what is morality?
Ram Posted June 7, 2011 Posted June 7, 2011 I had no idea that a high moral score was mandatory to be a politician. Btw' date=' what is morality?[/quote'] What are you talking about dude? You cannot compartmentalize things like that and say "Well, as long as he delivers good governance, I don't care what he does in his personal life.." You will be setting a dangerous precedent if that is your benchmark. If that is the approach we have to take, the next obvious question is - for how long will you extend this rope? Is it ok if your representative was say a petty thief? How about if he physically abused his spouse? We have to set the highest moral and ethical standards for those who seek to repreent us, there is no room for wavering on this. If somebody like weiner is an unfair casualty of this strict yardstick, so be it. We need to set tough, uncompromising precedents. That is he only way to ensure excellence at the top.
Ram Posted June 7, 2011 Posted June 7, 2011 Btw, how dumb are some of these guys? Weiner would apparently respond to comments posted by women in some of his YouTube videos. This is not only the picture that is noe floating around. If youre one of highest profile congressman in the country and you go around distributing pictures of women on the iternet, with some of them showing his full face, it's only a matter of time before you're gonna be caught
Sachin=GOD Posted June 7, 2011 Posted June 7, 2011 Not really sure why the public should judge this Weiner based on what he did in his personal life?!? He might be morally bankrupt' date=' but that didn't seem to affect his performance as a politician.[/quote'] Disagree. This way even criminals may just be called "morally bankrupt" - should they be allowed if it doesn't affect their performance as a politician?
coffee_rules Posted June 7, 2011 Posted June 7, 2011 Every other politician of every country who doesn't get caught is morally super good?
yoda Posted June 7, 2011 Posted June 7, 2011 Bill Clinton was morally bankrupt (as some would say) but was 1000000000 times a better president than GWB was. Food for thought.
cowboysfan Posted June 7, 2011 Posted June 7, 2011 perverts(not molesters ) are worse than crooks in my book.
Guest Gunner Posted June 7, 2011 Posted June 7, 2011 What are you talking about dude? You cannot compartmentalize things like that and say "Well, as long as he delivers good governance, I don't care what he does in his personal life.." You will be setting a dangerous precedent if that is your benchmark. If that is the approach we have to take, the next obvious question is - for how long will you extend this rope? Is it ok if your representative was say a petty thief? How about if he physically abused his spouse? We have to set the highest moral and ethical standards for those who seek to repreent us, there is no room for wavering on this. If somebody like weiner is an unfair casualty of this strict yardstick, so be it. We need to set tough, uncompromising precedents. That is he only way to ensure excellence at the top. Two points: 1.There is a distinction between morality and criminality. I am discussing only morality. 2.What is moral for you is different moral for someone else. He thought that rather than cheat on his wife these daliances with women on the net was more moral. Who are we to judge what is more moral? All this yada yada bout thieves being elected etc doesn't some into the discussion at all. Furthermore we have not only elected thieves in India but also murderers and rapists so what does that tellyou about our morality?
Ram Posted June 7, 2011 Posted June 7, 2011 Two points: 1.There is a distinction between morality and criminality. I am discussing only morality. 2.What is moral for you is different moral for someone else. He thought that rather than cheat on his wife these daliances with women on the net was more moral. Who are we to judge what is more moral? All this yada yada bout thieves being elected etc doesn't some into the discussion at all. Furthermore we have not only elected thieves in India but also murderers and rapists so what does that tellyou about our morality? If your response to criticism about unethical/immoral behavior of elected representatives is that ‘Oh, there are even more bigger scumbags in power out there..’, then I am not sure what to say there.. On your first point about what is versus moral what is immoral – I think you have missed your point here. I am not here to judge Anthony Weiner’s morality, nor did I try to. My stand is VERY VERY clear – My benchmarks of moral and ethical behavior of people who want to hold public office and represent me are the HIGHEST and for good reason. We need such unwavering standards to ensure that corrupt and shady individuals do not get into positions of power. If we make a compromise today by saying ‘Oh well, all he did was send pictures.. He did not even do anything..’, then that will send a message to the rest of crooks out there that similar disciplinary transgressions will also be tolerated. Things can get only worse from there on. This isn’t about Anthony Weiner and what he did or didn’t do. This is about setting precedents. Once you see it from that standpoint, you will probably understand where I am coming from.
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