Mariyam Posted August 1, 2011 Posted August 1, 2011 ^^^ Agree with Chandan 100%. Bell made wrong assumptions and was penalized for it. And he was attempting a run. No ambiguity there. An analogous, but extreme case would be Laxman going to the England locker room and telling them that he assumed that a batsman can't be bowled out in 4th innings at Trent Bridge, so he be allowed to bat again. Would that be in the "Spirit of the game"?
pinkfreud Posted August 1, 2011 Posted August 1, 2011 Well in keeping with the thread title, I must say Dhoni has totally proved his mettle today. Even sans this whole blotch on cricket that took place, the English bowlers have completely decimated our guys like a colony of termites ripping apart a caterpillar.
Sami231 Posted August 2, 2011 Posted August 2, 2011 It's a surprise that Strauss sought sympathy At the highest level of international sport, including Test cricket, and of course within the bounds of fairplay and sportsmanship, no quarters should be conceded, none sought. Therefore, Andrew Strauss could have avoided the request to Mahendra Singh Dhoni to reconsider India's run out appeal against Ian Bell - which the umpires had lawfully upheld. To beg for mercy in a prestigious, professional competition is unbecoming. It was surprising that Strauss willingly endured this terrible loss of face. Instead, he should have had the courage to inform Bell that he had erred. Bell himself admitted he had been "naive". Indeed, England ought to have taken the setback on the chin. Batsmen are run out all the time for not paying attention. It's not the pleasantest way to lose your wicket; yet this is very much part and parcel of a game of glorious uncertainties. Not one commentator in Sky Sports' panel disagreed with either India asking the question or the umpires' decision. Not even Ian Botham, who is normally insufferably nationalistic rather than neutral, as media observers are expected to be. Michael Atherton, Shane Warne, David Lloyd, Michael Holding, Sanjay Manjrekar and Nasser Hussain, while differing in their perspectives, were unanimous in highlighting that it was Bell's "doziness" that was responsible for him being rightly given out. Only Michael Vaughan - and he is not a Sky broadcaster - said that he would have been talked around at tea, which is when India withdrew their appeal. Even he, however, stressed: "I would have appealed just as Dhoni did." Warne went to the extent of saying that had Strauss knocked on the Australian dressing room door when Allan Border was captain, he would quite simply have been shown the door. There has never been any credible accusation that Border was either a cheat or that didn't play the game in the right spirit. Warne's comments illustrated a no-nonsense approach, which has often characterized Australia's outlook and has made them the most successful cricketing nation by far. Since India's advent into Test cricket, there are innumerable examples of sportsmanship on the part of Indian squads. Indeed, in 1979, when Srinivas Venkatraghavan complained about the unreachable short-pitched deliveries by the West Indies in a World Cup encounter at Edgbaston, Birmingham, he was immediately rapped on the knuckles by BCCI officials in Chennai, who had valuable business links with Britain. Gentlemanliness and success are an ideal combination. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/cricket/series-tournaments/india-in-england/top-stories/Its-a-surprise-that-Strauss-sought-sympathy/articleshow/9448838.cms
EnterTheVoid Posted August 2, 2011 Posted August 2, 2011 Hats off Dhoni. Don't care if no one else reciprocates the gesture, we don't have to play like thugs.
Rajiv Posted August 2, 2011 Posted August 2, 2011 You guys are giving Dhoni way too much credit or slack. Imagine this, if Eng were chasing down and Ian was few of the remaining batsmen with 100 runs to win, you guys think Dhoni would have let it gone. This series, this match and that moment was so sedate for Indians that letthing him off didn't matter while gaining some brownie points. This match was gone way before Eng 2nd Innings, as for the spirit - jeez, it was there coz it suited the situation
Rajiv Posted August 2, 2011 Posted August 2, 2011 It was Sachin - Not Dhoni TOI Post http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/cricket/series-tournaments/india-in-england/top-stories/Tendulkars-intervention-led-to-Bells-reinstatement-Report/articleshow/9452916.cms
akshayxyz Posted August 2, 2011 Posted August 2, 2011 How many times we have seen this - Batsman plays a stright drive, ball brushes bowler's fingers ( or sometime even a faint brush off clothes), ball goes on to hit the stumps, and batsman on the non-striker end is caught unaware. How can, claiming for that wicket, be called in the 'spirits of the game'?
Lord Posted August 2, 2011 Posted August 2, 2011 There has never been any credible accusation that Border was either a cheat or that didn't play the game in the right spirit. Warne's comments illustrated a no-nonsense approach, which has often characterized Australia's outlook and has made them the most successful cricketing nation by far. this is whats important,we needed to make a statement that we r here to win.instead we made a statement that we r pussies,come roll over us n roll over they did
Sachinism Posted August 2, 2011 Posted August 2, 2011 How many times we have seen this - Batsman plays a stright drive, ball brushes bowler's fingers ( or sometime even a faint brush off clothes), ball goes on to hit the stumps, and batsman on the non-striker end is caught unaware. How can, claiming for that wicket, be called in the 'spirits of the game'? Why is the non-striker out of his crease?
Sachinism Posted August 2, 2011 Posted August 2, 2011 How the spirit of Sachin Tendulkar gave Ian Bell a reprieve in run-out furore Sachin Tendulkar has emerged as the key figure behind India’s dramatic change of heart that led to them recalling Ian Bell after controversially running him out. Sportsmail can reveal that far from being an act of sportsmanship from India captain Mahendra Singh Dhoni that led to Bell’s reprieve on Sunday, it was the intervention of the Little Master that upheld the Spirit of Cricket. Dhoni has been widely praised for defusing an ugly incident in the second Test after the England No 3 had wandered out of his crease, thinking that the third day had reached tea, only to be run out by Abhinav Mukund. Boos rang out around Trent Bridge as umpires Asad Rauf and Marais Erasmus confirmed that the ball was still live and that Bell was out — after first checking with the India skipper that he definitely wanted to appeal. Andy Flower, the England team director, and captain Andrew Strauss then went to the tourists’ dressing room asking Dhoni and coach Duncan Fletcher to reconsider during a tense 20-minute interval that could have had severe ramifications for Anglo-Indian relations. It was suggested that Dhoni changed his mind after talking with his team and India, who had received abuse from a section of the crowd, got a standing ovation from the Nottingham public after it became clear that Bell had been reinstated. But a source close to the England dressing room revealed that it was Tendulkar who emerged as the hero of the hour and enabled Bell to get away with what even he described as his own stupidity. ‘Dhoni was asked three times on the field whether he was appealing and each time he said yes,’ the source told Sportsmail. ‘Then when Flower and Strauss went to see Dhoni and Fletcher they said their captain insisted the decision would stand. Tendulkar was the voice in the dressing room that got Bell reinstated.’ It is no surprise that one of the greatest players to ever grace the game would be such an influential figure in such a big decision and would be aware of the implications of the run-out standing. The atmosphere between the teams would have been tense for the rest of the summer while the sometimes fraught relationship between the two countries’ boards would have been further stretched. Tendulkar is the most influential person in Indian cricket and it is widely believed that it is his objections to the decision-review system that has led to India refusing to allow Hawk-Eye to play a part in the decision-making process. He will also have remembered that England returned to India after the terrorist attacks on his native Mumbai in 2008 to complete a tour that saw the 38-year-old score an emotional century in an Indian victory in Chennai. Once Tendulkar had spoken Dhoni listened and a decision that — according to the letter of the law — was perfectly fair was swiftly overturned. It was also one that was quickly accepted by the rest of the India side who hold their illustrious team-mate in such high regard. The England team quickly emerged on their balcony to applaud the Indians as Bell ran out after tea. By then they knew that it was Tendulkar they were applauding. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cricket/article-2021311/How-spirit-Sachin-Tendulkar-gave-Ian-Bell-reprieve-run-out.html#ixzz1TrbMkeFi Everything I said about Dhoni now goes for Sachin :hitler:
Cricket Tragic Posted August 2, 2011 Posted August 2, 2011 Daily Mail /thread PS. Has been posted already.
Sachinism Posted August 2, 2011 Posted August 2, 2011 Daily Mail /thread Yeh I guess I should have questioned the source lol
pinkfreud Posted August 2, 2011 Posted August 2, 2011 Is this true or not? Seems to be.. it's all over the news, not just DM.
pinkfreud Posted August 2, 2011 Posted August 2, 2011 _oi6jKoxzxs&feature=player_embedded#at=67 Jus' saying, even though it's OTT (i.e. the way TN is putting it across).
hitman1980 Posted August 2, 2011 Posted August 2, 2011 India need to get over the sachin syndrome .. It was dhoni who got pressurized by this .. So its dhoni's fault .. Sachin is known to keep his goody goody image in media at the cost of country .. So no wonders.. He is the utmost selfish person .. Even after so many years he still hasn't learned how to play in pressure situations .. We need to get rid of big 3 now .. We can't lose more badly then we r doing now ..
deepak_sach Posted August 2, 2011 Posted August 2, 2011 India need to get over the sachin syndrome .. It was dhoni who got pressurized by this .. So its dhoni's fault .. Sachin is known to keep his goody goody image in media at the cost of country .. So no wonders.. He is the utmost selfish person .. Even after so many years he still hasn't learned how to play in pressure situations .. We need to get rid of big 3 now .. We can't lose more badly then we r doing now .. Trolling...
vamos_rafa Posted August 2, 2011 Posted August 2, 2011 India need to get over the sachin syndrome .. It was dhoni who got pressurized by this .. So its dhoni's fault .. Sachin is known to keep his goody goody image in media at the cost of country .. So no wonders.. He is the utmost selfish person .. Even after so many years he still hasn't learned how to play in pressure situations .. We need to get rid of big 3 now .. We can't lose more badly then we r doing now .. Thanks, now please delete your account. We don't want non-sense spread all across the forum.
SachDan Posted August 2, 2011 Posted August 2, 2011 India need to get over the sachin syndrome .. It was dhoni who got pressurized by this .. So its dhoni's fault .. Sachin is known to keep his goody goody image in media at the cost of country .. So no wonders.. He is the utmost selfish person .. Even after so many years he still hasn't learned how to play in pressure situations .. We need to get rid of big 3 now .. We can't lose more badly then we r doing now .. Before that you should stop watching cricket.
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