rkt.india Posted August 31, 2011 Posted August 31, 2011 If anyone has seen this video of him that guy will not doubt about his credentials of pace. In fact, he is looking faster than what speed gun is showing on several occasions in this clip. [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckkW05uX8hs]Varun Aaron - YouTube[/ame]
retterimp Posted August 31, 2011 Posted August 31, 2011 my 'eye-gun' tells me he is around 132kph we should have a poal of the speed range he hit in the game, and, assuming sample space is large enough, the average speed will be declared varun aaron's official average bowling speed in this game
Serani Posted August 31, 2011 Posted August 31, 2011 Anyone that thinks they can measure speed just by looking on some recording from a phone is a joker.
Cricket Tragic Posted August 31, 2011 Posted August 31, 2011 Were you at Leicester to inspect the pitch? It has a green tinge which usually helps the ball skid onto the bat. :cantstop:
Rightarmfast Posted August 31, 2011 Posted August 31, 2011 Anyone that thinks they can measure speed just by looking on some recording from a phone is a joker. EXACTLY ! Which is why I think you are making a joke of yourself here. When neither of us can assess the speed by naked eye, how come you are so sure and putting down RKT ? Its not as if we are watching Aaron for the first time. He has hit 150+ on a few occassions so I think its stupid to be pulling someone who do has some idea about fast bowling and speaking about the speed.
rkt.india Posted August 31, 2011 Posted August 31, 2011 Anyone that thinks they can measure speed just by looking on some recording from a phone is a joker. it can be impossible for those who just watch cricket for enjoyment but not who live cricket. i have bowled and watched fast bowlers since i have watched and played cricket. I watch cricket for fast bowlers and i dont say anything just for the sake of it. I have coached bowlers in a club in my town. and if you cannot assess a bowler's from a top order batsman's shots and reaction, you should just stay enjoying the game and let assessment to people like us. I have given enough video evidence in this thread to prove my points. watch the videos i have posted on this thread and if you cannot see he hurried Mcdonald on the last 2 balls in the OP video then there is no reason I should argue more.
Cricket Tragic Posted August 31, 2011 Posted August 31, 2011 it can be impossible for those who just watch cricket for enjoyment but not who live cricket. i have bowled and watched fast bowlers since i have watched and played cricket. I watch cricket for fast bowlers and i dont say anything just for the sake of it. I have coached bowlers in a club in my town. and if you cannot assess a bowler's from a top order batsman's shots and reaction, you should just stay enjoying the game and let assessment to people like us. I have given enough video evidence in this thread to prove my points. +1 McDonald was scared and backing away to leg against Aaron. Too quick for the weak Aussie. :nice:
Blue Panther Posted August 31, 2011 Posted August 31, 2011 it can be impossible for those who just watch cricket for enjoyment but not who live cricket. i have bowled and watched fast bowlers since i have watched and played cricket. I watch cricket for fast bowlers and i dont say anything just for the sake of it. I have coached bowlers in a club in my town. and if you cannot assess a bowler's from a top order batsman's shots and reaction, you should just stay enjoying the game and let assessment to people like us. I have given enough video evidence in this thread to prove my points. watch the videos i have posted on this thread and if you cannot see he hurried Mcdonald on the last 2 balls in the OP video then there is no reason I should argue more. :two_thumbs_up::two_thumbs_up:
Serani Posted August 31, 2011 Posted August 31, 2011 looool Rkt no offence bro but I am a fast bowler myself and play to a high standard. Maybe I should send you some clips of me bowling and you can guess my speed and see how far off the mark you are, what a fun game that would be.
speed_demon Posted August 31, 2011 Posted August 31, 2011 looool Rkt no offence bro but I am a fast bowler myself and play to a high standard. Maybe I should send you some clips of me bowling and you can guess my speed and see how far off the mark you are, what a fun game that would be. Sure it would be, why don't you make it and post it, all of us can try to guess the speed then.....
ShebbySB Posted August 31, 2011 Posted August 31, 2011 looool Rkt no offence bro but I am a fast bowler myself and play to a high standard. Maybe I should send you some clips of me bowling and you can guess my speed and see how far off the mark you are, what a fun game that would be. That's a good idea,lets do that......what say RKT?U can prove ur point.Anyway I think we should end this stupid thread right here.None can judge a bowler by watching a video of him of 3 balls.So just wait & see what happens,time will tell everything.
rkt.india Posted August 31, 2011 Posted August 31, 2011 Yeah..Why not serani..I judged him because i have seen him before..But tell me how have you judged him...Sachinism was saying 77 mph lolest
rkt.india Posted August 31, 2011 Posted August 31, 2011 One thing more serani.Post a video where you have bowled to an international batsman.
express bowling Posted September 1, 2011 Posted September 1, 2011 Anderson isn't' date=' Broad is quicker. I was at the tests sitting in the stand behind the bowlers, speed gun and watching live point to Broad being quicker. Ishant averages 136k, occasionally hits 140 once in an over. Broad was bowling some overs that were regularly above 140, hit 145k in one.[/quote'] Ishant was bowling 135k to 145k in the West Indies test matches. He was bowling 134k to 141k in England but that was most probably because he was carrying the ankle injury for which he will have an operation. Ishant, like most pacers frequently bowls 3/5 kph quicker in the ODIs and T20s, where he has touched 152k this season. Anderson is not a genuine quick and Broad is definirtely faster than him. He is about the same pace as Ishant when both are fit. If Broad is a fast bowler then so is Ishant. If not bowling a lot of 90mph deliveries is not fast then neither are fast. I think both are fast in the ODIs etc and fast medium in test matches.
Kriterion Posted September 1, 2011 Posted September 1, 2011 You just watch whenever he plays in ODIs' date=' keep an eye on speed guns all through the match and see if he hits 145K or not. There was no speed gun here, so cannot convince you, but that delivery was certainly 145K. Batsmen dont play like that to a slower bowler and would have been hit for six or four over midwicket.[/quote'] i dunno, it looked pretty slow...but to me it seems that usually the slower looking deliveries are the ones that clock express pace.
rkt.india Posted September 2, 2011 Posted September 2, 2011 i dunno' date=' it looked pretty slow...but to me it seems that usually the slower looking deliveries are the ones that clock express pace.[/quote'] look last delivery was certainly looked quick.
fineleg Posted September 2, 2011 Posted September 2, 2011 One thing more serani.Post a video where you have bowled to an international batsman. That's like a jibranpatel/gaurav92 bet thread clause!
rkt.india Posted September 2, 2011 Posted September 2, 2011 That's like a jibranpatel/gaurav92 bet thread clause! that is because there are factors to assess the speeds. This is one of them how an international batsman react to deliveries which are fast, medium fast etc. Like yesterday in Pak-zim match, there were no speed guns but I can say Sohail Khan was bowling in mid 130s most of the time , some times going up to high 130s and fastest must be around 141-142. Aizaz Cheema was slower than him though I did no seem much of Cheema. Junaid was around 135K too.
vvvslaxman Posted September 2, 2011 Posted September 2, 2011 At this point i have to say he is way too over hyped. He has no real decent stock delivery. Ishant is a far better bowler than him. That is not saying much.
rkt.india Posted September 2, 2011 Posted September 2, 2011 At this point i have to say he is way too over hyped. He has no real decent stock delivery. Ishant is a far better bowler than him. That is not saying much. Ishant already has 4 years of international experience. It is not really fair to compare him to Ishant. Also explain what stock delivery Munna, Vinay, and RP have right now. He has raw pace which is good enough for him to be groomed and to see his stock deliveries you need watch him first and see how he goes. He will develop. Our bowlers wont develop if they continue play first class cricket. He bowl outswinger and can cut it back too. I had shown it in the video where he took 5 wickets. He can seam it both ways. He bowls very close to the stumps that is why he will be better bowler than Ishant and he is quicker too. According to you, we must continue to play Vinay and RP who do not have any future. He is not gonna do worse than them and will get experience and exposure to bowl to quality batsmen which will help him improve. If he has it in him then this will be a great learning curve for him.
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