Jadeja is actually a good odi player.

[King Tendulkar]

^But as an overall cricketer Pathan is a way better

But you say crapthan is better bowler You say Jadeja is better batsman And we know jadeja is better fielder So overall even by your own statements jadjea is better over all. This shows why jadeja is in team as name being put forward is only pathan, who is pants. His batting is average and actually pants.

[Vivek.S.123]

The no 7 spot has to be a batsman. the no 7 batsman 1. has to finish games in a chase or blast to a finish in innings 11. 2. has to take a team from 160/5 to 294 somtimes and hence has to bat solid. a bowling allrounder would be significant less returns over a period of time.

Ambati Rayudu should be our #7, with Raina moving to #5

[maniac]

Bit ott:giggle: And as fielder who is ahead?

Jaddu is the best fielder in the Indian side no doubt, but Pathan has been our best LOI bowler since his recent comeback. Jaddu is Ok and he played a terrific innings today but in pressure situations chasing a total I would trust Pathan more than Jadeja eventhough I still feel Jadeja is technically a much better batsman than even Raina. As a cricketer I still rate Pathan over Jadeja but at the same time I am not one of those blind Jaddu haters

[Lord]

England spent an entire decade playing such "packages" who would do okay in one aspect here and another aspect there. Look where they ended up.

they played too many of them:giggle: anyway Ojha isnt that great an ODI bowler imo

[trundlerNO1]

jaddu is the best, no argument please million dollar and talented AR

[King Tendulkar]

England spent an entire decade playing such "packages" who would do okay in one aspect here and another aspect there. Look where they ended up.

Nearly every team has a 7 or 8 who bats ok and bowls ok. They are needed to balance the team. Having yuvi as 5th bowler only is way to risky and give up any pressure created. Jadeja keeps the heat on. Only other option being touted is crpathan, whose batting is worse then jadjea, plus craptahn needs new ball which is horrific thought

[maniac]

But you say crapthan is better bowler You say Jadeja is better batsman And we know jadeja is better fielder So overall even by your own statements jadjea is better over all. This shows why jadeja is in team as name being put forward is only pathan, who is pants. His batting is average and actually pants.

A half-fit Jaddu is a better fielder and batsman than a fully fit Zaheer Khan....does that mean he is a better cricketer than Zak?

[Lord]

25 overs of spin when pitches hardly assist them ?

25?

[The Outsider]

Bit ott:giggle:

How is it OTT? Pathan is leagues ahead of Jadeja as a bowler. Jadeja is nothing but a darter. Even if you just look at the numbers, Pathan smokes Jadeja completely. He picks up 1.5 wickets per match as opposed to 1 wicket per match. Pathan averages 29 and Jadeja 36. And here is the relevant part, Pathan averages 30 and 23 in Australia and England which are the venues of the next major championships, Jadeja averages 100 and 38! There is simply no comparison between Pathan and Jadeja in those conditions and last year's CB series showed it.

[King Tendulkar]

A half-fit Jaddu is a better fielder and batsman than a fully fit Zaheer Khan....does that mean he is a better cricketer than Zak?

O come on, comparing apples with oranges. Of course zak is class. But you are comapring an opening seamer with someone who will at 7/8 and bowl some overs in odis

[King Tendulkar]

How is it OTT? Pathan is leagues ahead of Jadeja as a bowler. Jadeja is nothing but a darter. Even if you just look at the numbers, Pathan smokes Jadeja completely. He picks up 1.5 wickets per match as opposed to 1 wicket per match. Pathan averages 29 and Jadeja 36. And here is the relevant part, Pathan averages 30 and 23 in Australia and England which are the venues of the next major championships, Jadeja averages 100 and 38! There is simply no comparison between Pathan and Jadeja in those conditions and last year's CB series showed it.

The point is he may have improved! He certainly seems to have. We need to see if he is better for those tours and failures. Players learn from failures. We need to see

[Number]

25?

Jadeja and 1 specialist spinner and some of them by part timers.

[cowboysfan]

Please dont fooled by his once in a blue moon performance,this guy will fail miserably abroad and should not even be in the squad.

[Lord]

Jadeja and 1 specialist spinner and some of them by part timers.

part timers will come in only if a man bowler is thrashed(which he will). still against non SC teams,it better than playing 4 seamers imo.and pitches arent that unhelpful recently.spinners from other countries have done well there

[Lord]

Please dont fooled by his once in a blue moon performance' date='this guy will fail miserably abroad and should not even be in the squad.[/quote'] hes done well with the ball 4 games in a row now

[The Outsider]

The point is he may have improved! He certainly seems to have. We need to see if he is better for those tours and failures. Players learn from failures. We need to see

Yeah, we will get to see. But just looking at their skills I would be amazed if Jadeja can outperform Pathan with the ball outside the subcontinent. I just can't see anything in Jadeja's bowling which is going to trouble batsmen in those conditions. His arm ball is effective here because he gets some balls to turn a bit. Batsmen will just play him through the line away from home. Pathan can be cannon fodder on pattas, but we are talking about completely different conditions. And the 2 new balls rule is tailor made for a guy like Pathan where the captain will no longer be under pressure to bowl majority of his overs in the first 10-15 overs.

[Number]

Pathan's batting in lower order is underrated. You don't need match losing 50s from no. 7 , you need 30-35 quick runs and composure while chasing. Pathan played well in SL and won us a game by his batting with Raina. In CB series http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/518963.html ^Besides this game, 1 ODI against Aus where we won, he made crucial runs. In another game we got a game tied because of his quick runs with MSD where Jaddu almost screwed us by playing maiden from where we needed 50 balls 50 to 18 balls 35.

[The Outsider]

Pathan's batting in lower order is underrated. You don't need match losing 50s from no. 7 , you need 30-35 quick runs and composure while chasing. Pathan played well in SL and won us a game by his batting with Raina. In CB series http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/518963.html ^Besides this game, 1 ODI against Aus where we won, he made crucial runs. In another game we got a game tied because of his quick runs with MSD where Jaddu almost screwed us from 50 balls 50 to 18 balls 35.

Well said. Jadeja might be more useful in situations where the top 5-6 are gone quickly and he gets the team to a respectable score. But honestly, with our bowling we can't hope to defend respectable scores too often. But Pathan can be more useful in situations where short cameos are needed to win the game and where Jadeja's batting has cost us so many games.

[rkt.india]

That would be ideal and common sense' date=' but that's not how Dhoni works. Remember the CB series where he kept on playing putting on one pathetic performance after another.[/quote'] He played 3 spinners at a bouncy and seaming MCG pitch and that was really bizarre.

[rkt.india]

so u'll drop a player wen hes dong well coz he might do badly afterwards?:giggle: as Vibhash says,its rare these days for an Indian bowler to perform so well over 4 games

You play horses for courses too, some times. Jaddu is not an all-season bowler. He is handy only in SC. His past record outside SC has been poor.