Sooda Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 this is nothing more than a figment of your imagination.we have a world cup and a world cup final with only four bowlers.:hysterical: We had a very good team then. Give us an in form Tendulkar, Gambhir, Yuvraj and perhaps most importantly Zaheer and then we have a batting line up that can chase down almost anything and post big totals of their own pretty much anywhere in the world. And with Zaheer a pace attack that is good. Right now our top order is fragile and bowling worse still. the notion that a 5th bowler(simialr or worse thsn his peers) can raise the quality of your attack is totally fiction. 5 bowlers > 4 bowlers is also fiction. I dont get it, youre arguing for Jadeja or Irfan at 7 but not for 5 bowlers. In my view either Jadeja or Irfan ARE the 5th bowler and I guess the 7th Batsman. Im not asking for a 5th specialist bowler, there is none. Im saying we can not play 7 bats inc Dhoni (so say a Tiwary instead of Jadeja) which I thought what youre asking for, and 4 specialist bowlers. You seem to be counting RJ as a batsman which is inaccurate, he is an allrounder. Esp at home where he is a containing bowler i guess. one good knock and suddenly Jadeja is a batsman, THAT has no factual basis or logical merit or cricketing sense. A lot to prove yet.
youngindia Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 We had a very good team then.. its not wise to think about things that are not going to win us matches. australia has 2 WCs with symonds ,lehman and moody and the thiord one with watson. ind has won a wc and a wc final.so there are far improtant things to winning in cricket than the narrow scenario of the 5th bowler. the fifth bowler is not going to win us matches or prevent an attack from getting thrashed.they won't make a major difference. so why worry about issue of lesser priority and weaken our vital strength is the question? imran's approach is "get in the matchwinners and fill in the blanks". it works beautifully.our matchwinners are 7 batsmen. so get them in and fill in the blanks. even while discussing for the 2003 wc, the same questions were raised. i am answering for the umpteenth time and tired by now I dont get it, youre arguing for Jadeja or Irfan at 7 but not for 5 bowlers. In my view either Jadeja or Irfan ARE the 5th bowler and I guess the 7th Batsman. i said i am ok with jadeja or specialist bats. You seem to be counting RJ as a batsman which is inaccurate, he is an allrounder. i assure you i am quite accurate. usually allrounders are stronger in one dept and weaker in one dept. jadeja is significantly stronger in batting while bowling is much weaker suit and as such can only qualify as a batting allrounder. he has potential only on the batting front to be a matchwinner. in bowling , he can be useful at times ,nothing more. for a reference, he already has higher average than shaun pollock,botham and kapil despite being a junior player at best . he is heading towards 30's already. bowling allrounders usually maintain lower standards. anyway i don't need these stats to idnetify a batsman or bowler. Esp at home where he is a containing bowler i guess. one good knock and suddenly Jadeja is a batsman,' no cigar. even ppl were criticising him three years ago for not being a hitter and all,i was big on his batting potential.
Number Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 sir jadeja'a wiki page keeps getting edited. :hysterical::hysterical::hysterical: sir sri sri sri jadeja ji. :cantstop:
Lord Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 sir jadeja'a wiki page keeps getting edited. :hysterical::hysterical::hysterical: sir sri sri sri jadeja ji. :cantstop: what?
Number Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 what? Someone edits his wiki page almost everyday, putting all those 'sri' ,'sir', 'ji' in his name. :giggle:
King Tendulkar Posted January 19, 2013 Author Posted January 19, 2013 2 wickets for Sir Jadeja. No haters dont forget this if he fails with bat!!:cantstop:
Marut Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 sir jadeja'a wiki page keeps getting edited. :hysterical::hysterical::hysterical: sir sri sri sri jadeja ji. :cantstop: It may be Jadeja himself.:cantstop:
The Outsider Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 Yeah keep carrying on with the self gloating exercise at home, before the awaited and expected humiliation.
f.b.m Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 He is quite good in SC conditions but useless overseas. He can be a decent 3rd spinner on turners in test matches too but shouldn't be picked otherwise.
SLICKR392 Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 He is quite good in SC conditions but useless overseas. He can be a decent 3rd spinner on turners in test matches too but shouldn't be picked otherwise. He is a meaningless player to have oversees. Pathan needs to replace him oversees.
CG Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 3-19 cant take wickets:laugh: English Guys cannot play darts.Wait till watson and warner murder him in broad daylight.
SLICKR392 Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 English Guys cannot play darts.Wait till watson and warner murder him in broad daylight. I can see Watto hammering him but Warner's gonna chock.
Old guy Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 im more worried abt how they will hammer ashwin tbh
SLICKR392 Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 im more worried abt how they will hammer ashwin tbh Warner goes extremely defensive in turning pitches. He scored a 130 ball 50 against the likes of Deonarine
Old guy Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 Warner goes extremely defensive in turning pitches. He scored a 130 ball 50 against the likes of Deonarine im saying this after watching today's game ashwin was bowling utter shyte lets hope he gets back his form
Trichromatic Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 5th consecutive good performance by Sir Jadeja. :hatsoff:
FreakazoiD Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 He is quite good in SC conditions but useless overseas. We play more than 50% of our games in SC conditions. And if you include WI wickets which have become even slower than some Indian ones, that would go up to 60-70% around the world. Would you select a team for 30% of your games or 70%?
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