rkt.india Posted December 3, 2011 Posted December 3, 2011 i dont know his opinion...but i want people who overhypes any bowler also get warned by outsider :winky: But where is the hype. He bowls 145K that what I said. Hype was made for Mithun by all Karnatakans calling him genuine quick, while he barely crosses 135Kmark.
BeautifulGame Posted December 3, 2011 Posted December 3, 2011 Based on Cricinfo (leaving out intentional slow balls) : Yadav : Fastest : 143.6 Kph Slowest : 124.2 Kph Average : 137.8 Kph Aaron : Fastest : 143.1 Kph Slowest : 129.5 kph Average : 137.2 Kph There wasnt really much btw Aaron and Yadav in terms of pace.Both probably bowled a bit slower to use the swing conditions.Just that Aaron had an off day.
ViruRulez Posted December 3, 2011 Posted December 3, 2011 If I have to be honest, Yadav looks more consistent including both speed and accuracy compared to Aaron as of now. Aaron might produce better and faster balls than Yadav at times but in terms of consistency Yadav is a lot better. Having said that, Yadav has also got more experience in both domestic as well as international level and that might also be the reason. Probably Aaron would also improve with time and become more consistent. However, if you notice at their domestic stats you will realize that Aaron is probably not great in tests as his first class record is around 45 or so but his ODI/List A stats are quite good. On the other hand, Yadav is more consistent in domestics too in both formats. So, that might be a good pointer though Aaron would also improve probably with more exposure. Their real tests would be against Australia where their economy would also be tested. To bowl under 6 RPO against WI is not a big deal and stronger teams like Australia, SA etc. will give better ideas.
Old guy Posted December 3, 2011 Posted December 3, 2011 1 Pakistani troll , 1 Sreesanth troll... thread ka complete satyanaash. topic : both of them were slow today. In overcast conditions bowlers keep their pace low in order to get more movement through the air. So that may be the reason. +1
saneindian Posted December 3, 2011 Posted December 3, 2011 Based on Cricinfo (leaving out intentional slow balls) : Yadav : Fastest : 143.6 Kph Slowest : 124.2 Kph Average : 137.8 Kph Aaron : Fastest : 143.1 Kph Slowest : 129.5 kph Average : 137.2 Kph There wasnt really much btw Aaron and Yadav in terms of pace.Both probably bowled a bit slower to use the swing conditions.Just that Aaron had an off day. Yadav's fastest was 146 and he bowled a lot of 140+ deliveries, especially in the last two spells. Aaron was struggling to hit 140 consistently though. More than the speed, he was spraying the ball trying too many things. As I said in another thread, a good learning experience for him. Will bowl under flatter conditions, will see days when he won't get anything right yet he will be expected to bowl 8-9 overs of his quota.
Old guy Posted December 3, 2011 Posted December 3, 2011 If I have to be honest' date=' Yadav looks more consistent including both speed and accuracy compared to Aaron as of now. Aaron might produce better and faster balls than Yadav at times but in terms of consistency Yadav is a lot better. Having said that, Yadav has also got more experience in both domestic as well as international level and that might also be the reason. Probably Aaron would also improve with time and become more consistent. However, if you notice at their domestic stats you will realize that Aaron is probably not great in tests as his first class record is around 45 or so but his ODI/List A stats are quite good. On the other hand, Yadav is more consistent in domestics too in both formats. So, that might be a good pointer though Aaron would also improve probably with more exposure. Their real tests would be against Australia where their economy would also be tested. To bowl under 6 RPO against WI is not a big deal and stronger teams like Australia, SA etc. will give better ideas.[/quote'] tail slogged.. rpo dont really matter if u want to make pool of fast bowlers as some guy showed stat both bowled intentionally slower and aaron's figures=yadav its just that yadav had better figures that people didn't noitce his speed.. he is in test team in australia so he needs to play all odis even ashwin went for runs it got much flatter as ball got softer (for both sides) even yadav wasnt like before when he returned in his last spell (even 2nd last) aaron was jsut like this in test match when confidence was down speed was down once he got that wicket is speed never came down and he got 2 more wickets in very short time
Old guy Posted December 3, 2011 Posted December 3, 2011 Yadav's fastest was 146 and he bowled a lot of 140+ deliveries, especially in the last two spells. Aaron was struggling to hit 140 consistently though. More than the speed, he was spraying the ball trying too many things. As I said in another thread, a good learning experience for him. Will bowl under flatter conditions, will see days when he won't get anything right yet he will be expected to bowl 8-9 overs of his quota. :two_thumbs_up: i thought i was the only one defending him LOL people in 1 match want these guys to bowl like steyn..im sure if he fails once again some one wil say in team concentrate on line and length (maybe fletcher is the one askign them to ball fast afterall he made the famous england bowlingl ine up who destroyed australia when they were on top) and people should realise itsn ot like we have some better bowler as replacement
The Outsider Posted December 3, 2011 Posted December 3, 2011 Whats your opinion about Aaron as well as Yadav? I've hardly had the time to watch any cricket for the last few months - the Newlands test is perhaps the only match I watched for any substantial length. Haven't seen them in action long enough to form an opinion.
Karan114 Posted December 3, 2011 Posted December 3, 2011 Can take a cue from Yadav in that regard. 2 years ago Yadav wasn't even half the bowler he is now. Looks to have worked hard on his run up' date=' release, wrist position and importantly on his overall fitness and stamina. Won't be out of place to say that Umesh (and Mithun) have perhaps got the fittest bodies out of all Indian pacers of recent times.[/quote'] Very good point about Yadav's improvement. When I saw him Zimbabwe last year, I wondered what all the hype was about - his pace while okay wasn't exceptional and he didn't move the ball. He looks a completely different bowler now - genuinely quick and moves the ball (admittedly he must be more used to the SG ball). Aaron can similarly improve though as you say Yadav is a really well built chap which helps.
The Dark Horse Posted December 3, 2011 Posted December 3, 2011 Dravid_TheWall, this is your final warning. I've got a lot of complaints about your Sreesanth obsession and trolling in threads about any pace bowler. You are out of here if you bring up Sreesanth in any thread unless: 1. The thread is about him in particular 2. The thread is about Indian pace bowling in general 3. Someone else brought Sreesanth into the discussion before you. :hilarious:
bulbul Posted December 3, 2011 Posted December 3, 2011 But where is the hype. He bowls 145K that what I said. Hype was made for Mithun by all Karnatakans calling him genuine quick' date=' while he barely crosses 135Kmark.[/quote'] Lol keep the generalisations out....None of us hyped any one from our state... If they are good enough hey will come up or else goes down... we provided enough greats so far....now we dont have any exciting talents coming out..happens..even Mumbai not able to produce many greats after Sachin.... * you pick everyday a pacer from Ranji and hype them even without giveing 2/3 seasons for them ....
rkt.india Posted December 3, 2011 Posted December 3, 2011 Lol keep the generalisations out....None of us hyped any one from our state... If they are good enough hey will come up or else goes down... we provided enough greats so far....now we dont have any exciting talents coming out..happens..even Mumbai not able to produce many greats after Sachin.... * you pick everyday a pacer from Ranji and hype them even without giveing 2/3 seasons for them .... am i media man or ex-player so i will hype them. i just talk and discuss about them here as this forum is to discuss about cricket and cricketer.
bulbul Posted December 3, 2011 Posted December 3, 2011 am i media man or ex-player so i will hype them. i just talk and discuss about them here as this forum is to discuss about cricket and cricketer. Dont take everything so seriously... i am fine whatever you write.. but the generalisation you made in Last post was wrong...
achilles Posted December 3, 2011 Posted December 3, 2011 Aaron seems to be like Sreesanth v2.0. Tremendous potential, can consistently bowl at 140ks, a touch of arrogance, articulate and a very confident young man. But where is the hype. He bowls 145K that what I said. Hype was made for Mithun by all Karnatakans calling him genuine quick' date=' while he barely crosses 135Kmark.[/quote'] I remember the jubilant face of Srikkant after Mithun was picked for his debut series. Kris said, "We have picked India's first genuine fast bowler". A genuine pacer who can't even touch 140ks. :hysterical:
Old guy Posted December 3, 2011 Posted December 3, 2011 Aaron seems to be like Sreesanth v2.0. Tremendous potential, can consistently bowl at 140ks, a touch of arrogance, articulate and a very confident young man. I remember the jubilant face of Srikkant after Mithun was picked for his debut series. Kris said, "We have picked India's first genuine fast bowler". A genuine pacer who can't even touch 140ks. :hysterical: actually no aaron does not sledge much.. sreesanth cant always bowl in 140's this guy can this is first time he was expensive cut him some slack team management ,selectors saw something in him thats why he was selected for australia
rkt.india Posted December 3, 2011 Posted December 3, 2011 Dont take everything so seriously... i am fine whatever you write.. but the generalisation you made in Last post was wrong... so what was wronh with that. i meant karnatak ranji team players, coaches, media, etc. i am not saying or other posters did it. You were not even here then. venkatesh prasad was still talking about mithun can hit 140 plus in england ODI series.
bajrang Posted December 3, 2011 Posted December 3, 2011 guls pace is back today :yay: yeah only against bangladesh he has the balls to bowl fast. any other quality team will rip apart his wayward fast bowling. another sami.
carnish Posted December 3, 2011 Posted December 3, 2011 Umesh is way ahead of Aaron though its still early to judge... guess Aaron needs to have a look at his run up
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