bulbul Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 Damn! How can someone compare world cup with overseas series's, they both are different kinds of things. Isn't it? As per my book after becoming world champions you have to show some more consistency and promise because you are the world champions, for us (Pakistan and India) prime example is Australia, look how they dominated world cricket after winning every world cup. welcome to Bashing j/k :icflove:
Adeel Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 welcome to Bashing j/k :icflove: Glad to be here with you guys :teeth_smile: Am I right with my point?
bulbul Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 Glad to be here with you guys :teeth_smile: Am I right with my point? obviously...many of your Brothers are here getting their daily doses :winky:
Pak_Fan_4_Eva Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 Glad to be here with you guys :teeth_smile: Am I right with my point? Welcome to ICF. Here you will get bashed in both cases.:icflove:
deathmonger Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 Damn! How can someone compare world cup with overseas series's, they both are different kinds of things. Isn't it? As per my book after becoming world champions you have to show some more consistency and promise because you are the world champions, for us (Pakistan and India) prime example is Australia, look how they dominated world cricket after winning every world cup. We have dominated ODIs in which we are world champions.
CSK Fan Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 We have dominated ODIs in which we are world champions. At home. We have even dominated tests at home
deathmonger Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 At home. We have even dominated tests at home Do you even check? We have won our last ODI series in Aus, Pak, SL, NZ and WI. Only place we lost was in SA in a close series and in Eng in a rain affected series.
BeautifulGame Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 At home. We have even dominated tests at home Sigh.We have won our last ODI series in Australia Pakistan New zealand Srilanka West Indies and Bangladesh.Thats 6 of the 8 test playing nations we have won ODI series in apart from thrashing every team at home.The only 2 series we have lost is in SA (where we fought closely without top players ) and in England where we played a near 2nd choice XI. If this isnt dominance what exactly is?
ganeshran Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 Sigh.We have won our last ODI series in Australia Pakistan New zealand Srilanka West Indies and Bangladesh.Thats 6 of the 8 test playing nations we have won ODI series in apart from thrashing every team at home.The only 2 series we have lost is in SA (where we fought closely without top players ) and in England where we played a near 2nd choice XI. If this isnt dominance what exactly is? No thats not dominance. Dominance is when each loss is considered an upset like how it was with Australia. How we perform at home is pretty much similar to their overall pattern. Even Away from home, we have been a damn good side, but we dont dominate. We lost a pretty tough series in SA. In England we werent even able to win a single match.
Adeel Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 Welcome to ICF. Here you will get bashed in both cases.:icflove: Shukriya Dost! Hope we have good time here with our Indian fellow members.
rahulrulezz Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 you call that getting personal ? heres Lurker abusing me : http://indiancricketfans.com/showpost.php?p=1556168&postcount=759 Want more ? ? tbh there is not even a single abusive word in this post used by him against you.. nothing about your family...on top, i found this post of his quite funny:giggle:... Yeah want to see my picture and my woman ? :hysterical: I believe you bro.. you are the one who were doubting about Lurker personal life and telling me that every guy on net says that he benches 200 pounds and has gf like Aishwariya... why are you justifying yourself... such as I didnt have to go far.. just went to your last 40 posts.. TWO of the threads you were involved in last week resulted in closing down of the thread.. thanks to your abusive posts.. here are some of abusive posts by you in jus last week... So now the resident rettard actually believes that he is not a total idiot and a pathetic troll Listen bloody rodent ... shape up or ship out ... I have had it with your moronic nonstop trolling. You are bleddy not even amusing. So you have 3 choices going forward pretty soon there will be a bamboo showed so far up your rotten ass that you why dont you also show those posts where you and papa troll proved me wrong thru a whole bunch
rahulrulezz Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 Rahulbaba' date=' what happened you went quiet ? No comments on your buddy's abuse ? :hmmm:[/quote'] no offence bro but I have a full time engineering job, my gf(future fiance), gym and guitar on weekdays to take care off ..so it gets harder for me to come online and reply to ya posts... all I am saying is Lurker is a nice guy so you don't need to abuse him just cuz he doesnt agree with your opinion of Sachin is god or Sachin is better than Bradman... and please don't abuse me in ur next post.. you are way older than me, have achieved way more and I respect u for that so don't wanna get in some stupid arguement with ya
BeautifulGame Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 No thats not dominance. Dominance is when each loss is considered an upset like how it was with Australia. How we perform at home is pretty much similar to their overall pattern. Even Away from home, we have been a damn good side, but we dont dominate. We lost a pretty tough series in SA. In England we werent even able to win a single match. That sort of Aura will only be created if we continue to dominate for another 4 - 5 years with another world cup or two.Even Aussies took time to build similar sort of aura.Remember Newzealand beating Australia regularly in early 2000 and Aus even losing a series at home 2002 i think.But that doesnt mean they werent dominating ODI cricket at that time. But the fact is that we have won ODI series in 6 out of 8 test playing nations apart from thrashing everyone at home including Australia.Maybe its not as close to domination as Aussies or west Indies but much better than being just decent away from home.
The Outsider Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 I would not even require all three series wins to top the WC win. Australia and South Africa series win would have been enough for me to trade the WC for it, not that I have the WC. Yeah there is tremendous excitement and euphoria in front on winning a WC, but all major cricket nations except England and New Zealand have won the WC (and NZ have been one of the most consistent performers), but the fact remains that neither India, Pakistan, or Sri Lanka have won a test series in Australia or South Africa and don't look like doing it for decades. As a cricketing achievement winning a series in Australia and South Africa would be the pinnacle of cricketing accomplishment for a subcontinent team.
Adeel Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 I would not even require all three series wins to top the WC win. Australia and South Africa series win would have been enough for me to trade the WC for it, not that I have the WC. Yeah there is tremendous excitement and euphoria in front on winning a WC, but all major cricket nations except England and New Zealand have won the WC (and NZ have been one of the most consistent performers), but the fact remains that neither India, Pakistan, or Sri Lanka have won a test series in Australia or South Africa and don't look like doing it for decades. As a cricketing achievement winning a series in Australia and South Africa would be the pinnacle of cricketing accomplishment for a subcontinent team. Nailed it!
Magneto Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 I would not even require all three series wins to top the WC win. Australia and South Africa series win would have been enough for me to trade the WC for it, not that I have the WC. Yeah there is tremendous excitement and euphoria in front on winning a WC, but all major cricket nations except England and New Zealand have won the WC (and NZ have been one of the most consistent performers), but the fact remains that neither India, Pakistan, or Sri Lanka have won a test series in Australia or South Africa and don't look like doing it for decades. As a cricketing achievement winning a series in Australia and South Africa would be the pinnacle of cricketing accomplishment for a subcontinent team. Seems like South Africa is not really a major cricketing nation, but winning a series there would be the pinnacle of cricketing accomplishment. :dontknow:
The Outsider Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 Seems like South Africa is not really a major cricketing nation, but winning a series there would be the pinnacle of cricketing accomplishment. :dontknow: Yeah, I missed South Africa. Doesn't change the crux of the argument. And I completely appreciate and understand the argument from people who value cricketing success depending on how many people celebrate it on the streets rather than it's difficulty on the ground. After all, we are the land of the IPL.
Trichromatic Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 We have won the world cup earlier, but we never won a series in Australia and SA.
Number Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 We won WC not because it was easy but we prepared and planned for it better. We don't win in Aus or SA because we hardly prepare to the required level.
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