Prakat Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 Pakistan Supreme Court on Monday found Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani in contempt for not complying with orders related to re-opening corruption cases and summoned him to appear in person this week. The move escalates the pressure on Pakistan's weakened civilian government, which faces separate court procedures that could unseat its leadership and force early elections at a time of soaring tensions with the powerful army. "The Supreme Court has issued a contempt of court notice to the prime minister for not complying with its orders," Judge Nasir-ul-Mulk told the court which met to debate how to proceed on graft charges against the president. "He has been directed to appear personally on January 19," the judge added. The Supreme Court wants the government to write to Swiss authorities demanding that they re-open old corruption cases against President Asif Ali Zardari, which the government has so far refused to do so. Zardari and the government led by his Pakistan People's Party (PPP) say he has immunity from prosecution as long as he remains in office. The president is also under pressure from an investigation into who was behind efforts to solicit American help to prevent a coup apparently feared in the aftermath of Osama bin Laden's death and to clip the power of the army. Zardari's close aide, Husain Haqqani, was forced to resign as ambassador to Washington over a secret memo written last May and the Supreme Court ordered an inquiry on December 30 following a demand from the country's chief spymaster. Source: http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics/nation/pakistan-supreme-court-issues-contempt-notice-to-pm-yousuf-raza-gilani/articleshow/11509962.cms
ganeshran Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 IMO Military and judiciary have joined hands to oust the government. Imran should win in the next polls and rule till the next coup/dismissal.
Prakat Posted January 16, 2012 Author Posted January 16, 2012 If the Judiciary is backed by the Military then there's an end-game to this - which could be Musharraf most probably. Imran Khan wouldn't be in the picture in that case.
asterix Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 Did I heard this "Parliament Supreme" BS somewhere else recently?
Prakat Posted January 16, 2012 Author Posted January 16, 2012 ^ Where was this? Was it in relation to Anna? :hmmm:
ganeshran Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 If the Judiciary is backed by the Military then there's an end-game to this - which could be Musharraf most probably. Imran Khan wouldn't be in the picture in that case. It does seem that the judiciary and the military are backing each other which is strange given the fact that the two institutions had no love lost for each other during the previous government. Because of the previous conflicts, I seriously doubt that the CJ Iftikar would agree to reinstate Musharaff in any official capacity. His recent rent-a-quote image wont go down very well with the army either -and anyways Kayani being reluctant to back him was one of the primary reasons of Musharaf resigning. I also dont think Kayani has any appetite for a coup d'etat. Its counterproductive for the army to grab power and then take the blame for the problems of the country. It suits them much more that a weak civilian government be at the helm which can become a convenient scapegoat for poor governance giving them effective control of the defence and foreign policy. The leadership change of the notorious 111th brigade could have been more of a psychological move to remind the civilian government of the damocles sword dangling over them. The winner in all this turmoil is Imran Khan. Like Rohit Sharma sitting out while India was getting a mauling, IK's reputation gains by the day simply by not being a part of the government. If the court forces the Gilani government out, IK would be heavily backed by the establishment who are wary of both Sharif and Zardari given that they both might seek revenge for their tenures cut short. IK on the other hand, is a political novice with no hold over the complex power structures in Pakistan. How he can bring any semblance of change is beyond me
Clarke Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 What's the second option :hmmmm2: Did you mean Kayani, coz Mushi's retired ?
Prakat Posted January 16, 2012 Author Posted January 16, 2012 It does seem that the judiciary and the military are backing each other which is strange given the fact that the two institutions had no love lost for each other during the previous government. Because of the previous conflicts, I seriously doubt that the CJ Iftikar would agree to reinstate Musharaff in any official capacity. His recent rent-a-quote image wont go down very well with the army either -and anyways Kayani being reluctant to back him was one of the primary reasons of Musharaf resigning. I also dont think Kayani has any appetite for a coup d'etat. Its counterproductive for the army to grab power and then take the blame for the problems of the country. It suits them much more that a weak civilian government be at the helm which can become a convenient scapegoat for poor governance giving them effective control of the defence and foreign policy. The leadership change of the notorious 111th brigade could have been more of a psychological move to remind the civilian government of the damocles sword dangling over them. The winner in all this turmoil is Imran Khan. Like Rohit Sharma sitting out while India was getting a mauling, IK's reputation gains by the day simply by not being a part of the government. If the court forces the Gilani government out, IK would be heavily backed by the establishment who are wary of both Sharif and Zardari given that they both might seek revenge for their tenures cut short. IK on the other hand, is a political novice with no hold over the complex power structures in Pakistan. How he can bring any semblance of change is beyond me Good points! If Musharraf is brought back, it may not need the CJ to do anything, all that will be expected of them will be to do nothing. There are signs that Musharraf is sitting across the table with the Army. Similarly I feel Kayani's personal judgement with respect to coups will have little sway in what will be expected of somebody in his position when it comes to leading/backing/permitting a coup. Completely agree with you on Imran Khan sitting pretty in all this chaos and that he has tremendous public support. If he can turn that into electoral gains will have to be seen. Elections in rural Pakistan are traditionally managed by the landlords (landlord decides who gets the votes of his village/taluk) and the links between the leading political parties and these gentry is old and quite strong with election funding, land/property legislation etc. being part of the give and take. So unless IK makes or has made a play for this layer it is hard to see him winning votes in rural Pakistan esp. in Punjab (which is the UP of electoral Pakistan).
Utalk Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 I think this PPP govt is on borrowed time. This inaction on corruption cases is ridiculous and judiciary has no choice but punish them. Army would love to take over but has no popular support. PTI and PMLn will strongly oppose a military coupe. I can see this saga ending within next four weeks with Gillani resigning. There will be a caretaker set up that will conduct next general elections probably in the summer. If next general elections were held now there would be split vote with N league edging it. Imran needs at least six months to gain momentum and transfer his popularity into votes.
ganeshran Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 Good points! If Musharraf is brought back, it may not need the CJ to do anything, all that will be expected of them will be to do nothing. There are signs that Musharraf is sitting across the table with the Army. Similarly I feel Kayani's personal judgement with respect to coups will have little sway in what will be expected of somebody in his position when it comes to leading/backing/permitting a coup. I dont think Iftikar Chaudhary would sit and do nothing if Musharraf is brought back. There is too much of bad blood between the two. Completely agree with you on Imran Khan sitting pretty in all this chaos and that he has tremendous public support. If he can turn that into electoral gains will have to be seen. Elections in rural Pakistan are traditionally managed by the landlords (landlord decides who gets the votes of his village/taluk) and the links between the leading political parties and these gentry is old and quite strong with election funding, land/property legislation etc. being part of the give and take. So unless IK makes or has made a play for this layer it is hard to see him winning votes in rural Pakistan esp. in Punjab (which is the UP of electoral Pakistan). Totally agree. Pakistan's rural landscape is still very feudal in nature. Both Sharif and PPP have their strongholds in Punjab and Sindh while IK is still very much an urban phenomenon. Until recently he was visible more on Internet forums than the streets of Pakistan but has now progressed a lot after some hard work in the last 1 year or so. If IK is to win a majority, he needs to get considerable support from the establishment which he seems to have.
ravishingravi Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 It is almost as if nature if conspiring to make Imran the PM. It might very well be set up on a platter of this "man of destiny".
Prakat Posted January 17, 2012 Author Posted January 17, 2012 He has to leverage his public support into his deal with the establishment. But, as a part of this process I see him becoming a part of the establishment at the end of it all, and then it would make little difference if it is Sharif or IK who is the HoS. If Musharraf is brought back, I see the ones doing the bringing back taking care of the Iftikar problem.
CSK Fan Posted January 18, 2012 Posted January 18, 2012 Lol, at the second option. Why on earth will someone think that the army is going to back Mushraff? Mushraff is a civilian now and a politician. If army comes to power, its Kayani who will rule. Though, most probably its Imran who is going to come to power, backed by army PLEASE CHANGE THE SECOND OPTION. DOES NOT MAKE ANY SENSE
Prakat Posted January 18, 2012 Author Posted January 18, 2012 This is still Pakistan we are talking about. Musharraf is definitely in the picture and given how events play out in the coming months, his return may be very imminent.
CSK Fan Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 This is still Pakistan we are talking about. Musharraf is definitely in the picture and given how events play out in the coming months' date=' his return may be very imminent.[/quote'] Dude Mushraff is a civilian now. If he comes to power, he will come through his political party and by aligning with other political parties. Your option says he will come through a military coup. How and why does that make any sense? If there is a military coup surely it will be Kayani in power
Nova Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 This is still Pakistan we are talking about. Musharraf is definitely in the picture and given how events play out in the coming months' date=' his return may be very imminent.[/quote'] http://tribune.com.pk/story/323922/musharraf-will-be-arrested-senate-assured/ :giggle:
Prakat Posted January 20, 2012 Author Posted January 20, 2012 ^ :hysterical: It's a mexican standoff. Entirely a game of chance of who takes over, who puts who in prison/deathbed. Wait and watch!
adi B Posted January 25, 2012 Posted January 25, 2012 none of these, imran khan is a puppet of the coup, the coup led by kayyani will come into power throwing imran out
Asim Posted January 26, 2012 Posted January 26, 2012 Guys I am surprised you are considering Musharraf as an option or possibility. He have absolutely NO role in Pakistani politics/leadership for at least next 8 to 10 years. I don’t even see him coming back in any near future. Lots of serious charges against him are waiting and even Army itself would never like him to come back and face such charges, those too against current independent judiciary (and especially infront of CJ Iftikhar Ch).
bulbul Posted January 26, 2012 Posted January 26, 2012 Guys I am surprised you are considering Musharraf as an option or possibility. He have absolutely NO role in Pakistani politics/leadership for at least next 8 to 10 years. I donÃÕ even see him coming back in any near future. Lots of serious charges against him are waiting and even Army itself would never like him to come back and face such charges' date= those too against current independent judiciary (and especially infront of CJ Iftikhar Ch). Pakis are ruled by such people only..it happened many times before u r politics is like u r cricket team who knows even Izaz but may become president one day :two_thumbs_up:
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