Old guy Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 I do not think this is new - I have never got the idea about merging threads in any case unless they are duplicates. ah kenley against merging:hysterical:
SLICKR392 Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 An Indian calling English people "Pom" is kinda stupid and pointless. No, its not. It's something that the Aussies made up but that doesn't mean only they can state them as 'poms'.
Stan AF Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 Sunil Gavaskar fears for 'vulnerable' India AFP | Posted on Oct 30, 2012 at 12:51pm IST Mumbai: Batting great Sunil Gavaskar says England's "final frontier" could prove to be just a small hurdle as they bid for a first Test series win against "vulnerable" India in almost three decades. Gavaskar said the home side were going into the four-Test series against the world's number two team with a "wobbly" batting line-up and a weak-looking pace attack, with spin being the lone encouraging factor. "Amazingly the situation is eerily similar to the tours of England and Australia last year," Gavaskar wrote in his column in the Mumbai-based Mid-day newspaper, referring to two humiliating 4-0 routs suffered by the Indians. "Both England and Australia were vulnerable and there for the taking, but India messed it up and after the first Test of both the series just did not look as if they would win a day leave alone five days of a Test match. "India today are in the same vulnerable position that England and particularly Australia were in 2011." India ceded the world number one Test ranking to England in 2011, losing 4-0, with Australia repeating the dose in the series that started in December last year and ended in January 2012. With England and Australia touring in a busy home season, Mahendra Singh Dhoni's men are hoping to make amends for their embarrassing reverses now they are playing in familiar conditions. But Gavaskar said the retirement of Rahul Dravid and VVS Laxman, and Sachin Tendulkar's recent poor form, had weakened the famed Indian middle-order. "With the openers too not quite in form, the batting is looking wobbly," wrote Gavaskar, the first batsman in history to score 10,000 Test runs. "The settled air (in the Indian ranks) that was there at the beginning of 2011 is not there and that is why this is a great chance for England." Tendulkar, 39, the world's leading run-maker, has gone 25 innings without a hundred in Tests since making 146 against South Africa in Cape Town in January 2011. In the bowling department, Gavaskar said pace spearhead Zaheer Khan lacked support with the new ball, leaving spinners Ravichandran Ashwin and Pragyan Ojha to shoulder the burden of bowling England out twice. "Ashwin is a quick learner and Ojha is very consistent," he wrote. "On pitches where there is some turn they could prove tricky customers." The return of Kevin Pietersen had made the tourists stronger, Gavaskar said, adding that new captain and opener Alastair Cook could play a vital role in England's campaign. "Cook will be the steadying factor. He has a good record in India and if he can bat like he did in his debut series in 2006, the final frontier could just be a small hurdle for England," Gavaskar wrote. England, who last won a Test series in India under David Gower in 1985 and have described the forthcoming series as the "final frontier", opened their tour on Tuesday with a three-day match against India 'A' at the Brabourne stadium in Mumbai. The tourists will play another three-day game in Mumbai and a four-day match in Ahmedabad before Tests in Ahmedabad, Mumbai, Kolkata and Nagpur. The tourists, who will also play two Twenty20 matches after the Tests, will go home for Christmas before returning in the New Year for a five-match one-day series. http://cricketnext.in.com/live/news/gavaskar-fears-for-vulnerable-india/68746-13.html
SLICKR392 Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 If you're just getting up - Finn news is no serious injury picked up by scans. Ruled out rest of match with thigh strain. Will be monitored. Alison Mitchell on Twitter.
King Tendulkar Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 Good +ve thread KT :two_thumbs_up: don't give a damn about people who believe in jinxing :giggle: Superstitions are for the mentally weak. Seems we have a lot of mentally weak people on ICF:giggle: England batters struggling against India A and our part time spin attack. Wolloping will happen in tests! p.s remeber when I predicted we would batter the aussies at home and recieved loads of people saying what a silly prediction as we would not batter them. Well we battered them :--D This jinxing thing does not seem to be an exact science:winky:
BeautifulGame Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 Superstitions are for the mentally weak. Seems we have a lot of mentally weak people on ICF:giggle: England batters struggling against India A and our part time spin attack. Wolloping will happen in tests! p.s remeber when I predicted we would batter the aussies at home and recieved loads of people saying what a silly prediction as we would not batter them. Well we battered them :--D This jinxing thing does not seem to be an exact science:winky: When did we ever batter AUssies at home?
King Tendulkar Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 When did we ever batter AUssies at home? 2-0 good enough kid:--D http://www.indiancricketfans.com/showthread.php?t=122945&page=2&highlight=batter+aussies
Sidhoni Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 Similar thread was created by you when we toured them last year! :(( But, lets stay positive! :cheer:
Sooda Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 England were not vulnerable when India toured last year! Dont know wth Sunny is on about. Anyway this tour will be tough, will not be a wallopping, Gavaskar rightly points out our batting is fragile, and the top order esp vs the Eng pace attack...And we dont have the same kind of aura vs touring spinners that we once had....batting just isnt as good as it was...
Executioner Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 im south african :dontknow: you r probably a south african with an Indian father, a russian mother, who supported all these teams: PWI, DD, KXI punjab. You have been in an affair with girls of 30 different nationalities :cantstop:
SLICKR392 Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 you r probably a south african with an Indian father' date=' a russian mother, who supported all these teams: PWI, DD, KXI punjab. You have been in an affair with girls of 30 different nationalities :cantstop:[/quote'] :cantstop:
Old guy Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 you r probably a south african with an Indian father' date=' a russian mother, who supported all these teams: PWI, DD, KXI punjab. You have been in an affair with girls of 30 different nationalities :cantstop:[/quote'] i even support bangladesh :icflove:
Magneto Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 England were not vulnerable when India toured last year! Dont know wth Sunny is on about. Anyway this tour will be tough, will not be a wallopping, Gavaskar rightly points out our batting is fragile, and the top order esp vs the Eng pace attack...And we dont have the same kind of aura vs touring spinners that we once had....batting just isnt as good as it was... It's gonna be 1-1.
India-KXIP fan Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 It's gonna be 1-1. Nah, no chance. Just look at India's home form, their SC form. Our spinners form, their batsmen's form against spinners. India should at least win, just remains to be seen by how much.
Magneto Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 Nah' date=' no chance. Just look at India's home form, their SC form. Our spinners form, their batsmen's form against spinners. India should at least win, just remains to be seen by how much.[/quote'] Two reasons: a) Gauti/Sehwag/Yuvi/Sachin out of form. For the first time in a decade, India will solely depend on a couple of rookies against a quality opponent. They also have an in-form quality spinner; something none of the recent visiting teams have had. b) Cook/KP/Patel/Prior might be able to play out Ojha and Ashwin decently, and they do have a long tail. I think we'll have really flat tracks for 2 Tests and spin-friendly tracks for the other two tests.
Trichromatic Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 Zaheer is horribly out of form, bowling filth in all formats and can't buy wickets. Yadav will only help them to ease the pressure by giving boundary every over. Batting Openers - worst in world with this kind of form No 4 - Anderson, Finn and Broad will bombard him with full length fast deliveries on off. Finn will get him most of the time with 90mph full delivery. 1 wicketkeeper - who can fluke few innings. Non-test standard no 6. So we would rely on 2 inform batsmen who have just started their test life. England is clearly stronger team and they have already beaten this mediocre team badly last year.
Stan AF Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 Allowing Eng to win even a single test match is a loss itself, IMHO. We should do what the Paki's did to Eng.
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