Lord Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 In the current group format you can not have it based on group leaders as there are only 3 teams in a group. why not?the Ind-Eng game would hv a meaning.last night it was just another warmup. why dont we get rewarded for topping the group.we would hv to plau tougher groups.even points did not carry Link to comment
SLICKR392 Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 :hysterical::hysterical: Link to comment
Crookbond Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 why not?the Ind-Eng game would hv a meaning.last night it was just another warmup. why dont we get rewarded for topping the group.we would hv to plau tougher groups.even points did not carry Look mate be a little bit objective don't look it at as what "India" has done. The problem is that you just get 2 games in a 3-team group. One loss and you are no longer in contention which is a bit harsh. In a 3-team group, current system of seeds make sense. However, you put that to a 4-team group and then it becomes pure rubbish. Not to forget - there is a good enough chance for all 3 teams to end up no.1 and then NRR to come into play which makes it messy in T20 and more so with just 2 games played. I would say in a 3-team group format pre-seeds and group rankings both are equally the same. Link to comment
SLICKR392 Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 When it comes to leg spin' date=' Amit Mishra could be a good option. I definitely rate him above Piyush and Ojha.[/quote'] Might get us a wicket and drop gazillions of catches. Link to comment
Tridibans_16 Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 I have been saying this all along. Play Chawla against non-subcontinent teams. Leg spinners have always troubled them. In fact, I remember how the saffers struggled against Kumbles ans Sachin's googlies all through the nineties. Against Pakistan, play only Ashwin as Bhajji has always struggled v Pak. Link to comment
SLICKR392 Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 No chawla plz. He is half tracker specialist. Just go with 2 seamers and 2 specialist spinners considering it is going to be premadasa. use kohli's medium pace in between if required. Irfan and zak would do. + This would be the best and most balanced combination. Link to comment
Lord Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Look mate be a little bit objective don't look it at as what "India" has done. The problem is that you just get 2 games in a 3-team group. One loss and you are no longer in contention which is a bit harsh. In a 3-team group' date=' current system of seeds make sense. However, you put that to a 4-team group and then it becomes pure rubbish.[/quote'] I am against 3 team group as well,but even in 3 team group,why should any game be meaningless like yesterday,SA-SL game?how does it make sense? yeah all teams can end up 2 points,where NRR is fair judge imo.say if BD beat Pak tomorrow,they still wouldnt qualify unless they get big win as they got pummelled by NZ.which is fair. pre-seeds n group standings are not the same. Link to comment
Tridibans_16 Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 To be the world Champ, you have to beat the best in the business. Much like what we did in 2007 T20WC and the 2011 WC. In a way, it is for certain the winner will be from group B. All the teams in this group are in red hot form (Aussies with Watto/hussey/warner are good). So to proceed further, you have to peak at the right time. And also, whoever tops this group, will easily beat the other groups' teams. I foresee the two to proceed from AUS/SAF/IND/PAK to again meet in the finals. Link to comment
Texy Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Can Bangladesh cause an upset tomorrow? Winning margin: BD has to win by a margin of 37+ runs or within 15 overs Positives for BD: - Underdogs, will get major support from the neutrals - Fool looks to be in good touch (Ashra) - Young pup Nasir batted brilliantly (continuing his good form from Asia Cup) - Razzak & Mashrafe the only bowlers in good form Negatives for BD: - Will NOT get the support of 1 billion Indians (#Sept30th-Ind v Pak) - Potent Pakistani duas all the way from Birmingham/Luton, UK - Pressure from 150 million fans back home - Batting has been a major fail - Out of form Seniors in Tamim, Shakib - Bowling gave away 190 runs Link to comment
Lord Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 To be the world Champ, you have to beat the best in the business. Much like what we did in 2007 T20WC and the 2011 WC. In a way, it is for certain the winner will be from group B. All the teams in this group are in red hot form (Aussies with Watto/hussey/warner are good). So to proceed further, you have to peak at the right time. And also, whoever tops this group, will easily beat the other groups' teams. I foresee the two to proceed from AUS/SAF/IND/PAK to again meet in the finals. but two from group B will miss out despite being better than group A teams Link to comment
Clarke Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Threads asking rhetorical questions :headshake: Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 no way. Pakistan spinners will castrate them. Probably couple of good overs with bat and ball. That will be about it. Link to comment
Lord Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 we gotta play 5 bowlers Link to comment
Tridibans_16 Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 but two from group B will miss out despite being better than group A teams I agree. But whats decided is decided. To be fair to ICC, this is just a coincidence because when the seeding was done, Aussies and Indians were just piss poor in this format. Link to comment
Sid Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Most probably will be another thrashing for Bangbros. Link to comment
Executioner Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 not expecting big win, just hoping that we win by even a small margin for the sake of our pride! Link to comment
Lord Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 I agree. But whats decided is decided. To be fair to ICC' date=' this is just a coincidence because when the seeding was done, Aussies and Indians were just piss poor in this format.[/quote'] thats exactly the reason u dont pre-decide the seedings,no? Link to comment
SLICKR392 Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Chasing under 15 looks much simple than the winning by 35+ but as usual they would come up with piss poor shots and Pak chuckers can clean em up :idunno: G'luck bangbros :thumbs_up: Link to comment
Crookbond Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 I am against 3 team group as well,but even in 3 team group,why should any game be meaningless like yesterday,SA-SL game?how does it make sense? yeah all teams can end up 2 points,where NRR is fair judge imo.say if BD beat Pak tomorrow,they still wouldnt qualify unless they get big win as they got pummelled by NZ.which is fair. pre-seeds n group standings are not the same. :ohmy: How in a T20? Can you tell me another tournament where 2 games are used to judge NRR! No way dude, I understand where you come from but the problem is in typical Indian style you want jugaad solution for it. If you want the appropriate measure, ask for a 4-team group. NRR/Pre Seeds/BangBro thrashing are all on the same level. Link to comment
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