The Outsider Posted August 16, 2013 Posted August 16, 2013 From now on I'll try not to post in this thread. I've made my position regarding Modi very clear so there's not much left to post here.... Another casualty of Internet Hindus. :yay:
diga Posted August 16, 2013 Posted August 16, 2013 Another casualty of Internet Hindus. :yay: kya ghatiya term hai- internet hindus :wall: whoever coined it :facepalm:
FischerTal Posted August 16, 2013 Posted August 16, 2013 From now on I'll try not to post in this thread. I've made my position regarding Modi very clear so there's not much left to post here.... where will i get my daily dose of laughter from now? :((
zubinpepsi Posted August 16, 2013 Posted August 16, 2013 where will i get my daily dose of laughter from now? :(( yea.. we need more internet mullahs to make ICF and this country more sickular... :two_thumbs_up:
Crookbond Posted August 16, 2013 Posted August 16, 2013 Another casualty of Internet Hindus. :yay: Actually, S=G is a casualty of the fekulars :winky:
Clarke Posted August 16, 2013 Posted August 16, 2013 kya ghatiya term hai- internet hindus :wall: whoever coined it :facepalm:
Crookbond Posted August 16, 2013 Posted August 16, 2013 Narendra Modi shall not be granted US visa: American official http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/news/narendra-modi-shall-not-be-granted-us-visa-american-official/article5029069.ece Washington, Aug 16: A top American official has opposed grant of visa to Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi because of the “very serious” doubts that remain over his role in the “horrific” 2002 riots in the state. “Modi shall not be granted the privilege of US visa because of the very serious doubts that remain and that hang over Modi relative to his role in the horrific events of 2002 in Gujarat,” said Katrina Lantos Swett, Vice Chairwoman of the United States Commission on International Religious Freedom. The Bipartisan Government Commission reviews the facts and circumstances of religious freedom violations and makes policy recommendations to the US President, the secretary of State and Congress. “There are many, many unanswered questions that remain, there are at are many grave allegations, there are huge doubts,” she was quoted as saying by the New York Times. When asked about the possibility of Modi’s nomination as the BJP’s Prime Ministerial Candidate for the next Lok Sabha polls, she said, “It is no outside nation’s or no individual’s role to tell them who should be the next leader of India.” “For the people of India, I think it is important for them to consider very carefully who it is who they want to be their next Prime Minister,” she added. In 2005, the US denied Modi a diplomatic visa and revoked his existing tourist/business visa under the Immigration and Nationality Act, which makes a foreign government official who is responsible for particularly severe violations of religious freedom ineligible for an American visa, the NYT said. “Obviously what happened in 2002 in Gujarat was sectarian violence on a really massive scale. I don’t think you can say that that wasn’t a religious issue. It was a religious issue and the 2005 visa denial harks back to that,” she said. Modi has been lobbying hard to get the decision reversed. During a recent visit to the US, BJP President Rajnath Singh had said he would request for a review of visa ban on Modi. When pointed out that courts have not yet found any evidence of Modi’s involvement in the 2002 riots, Swett said, “Certainly in our system of justice you can be found not guilty, which is not the same thing as found innocent.” “Under these circumstances we should follow our laws, which say that we should not give a visa. Of course Modi wants us to reverse our position because that would be part of his rehabilitation process,” she said. “One of the things that concern us is that Modi seems more concerned with rehabilitating his own reputation than with providing recompense and rehabilitation for the surviving victims of those terrible events,” she added.
The Outsider Posted August 16, 2013 Posted August 16, 2013 Actually' date=' S=G is a casualty of the fekulars :winky:[/quote'] Fekulars! :giggle: You should patent that.
surajmal Posted August 17, 2013 Posted August 17, 2013 don't insult me. I have always been a BJP supporter and will continue to support it. I just do like Modi as a "leader" at all and I don't think he is the right person to lead India. 85 year old buddah is a much better option. :two_thumbs_up:
The Outsider Posted August 17, 2013 Posted August 17, 2013 kya ghatiya term hai- internet hindus :wall: whoever coined it :facepalm: Why is it a ghatiya term? Applying your neta's logic if you use the Internet and are a Hindu, then you are an Internet Hindu. :dontknow:
adi B Posted August 17, 2013 Posted August 17, 2013 lets not derail the thread..if u have criticized a leader,u should have the guts/courage to take back some criticism from the janta having opposing views..no need to refrain from posting,its just a thread after all :agree:
Crookbond Posted August 17, 2013 Posted August 17, 2013 Fekulars! :giggle: You should patent that. I didn't come up with it and I'm disappointed! In any case, apt word for many folks here.
zumi Posted August 17, 2013 Posted August 17, 2013 fekulars :hehe: but in all serious it's fecking stupid, makes no sense and underlines the defacto position of sonia's lapdogs and contrarians of name calling modi or his supporters.
saneindian Posted August 17, 2013 Posted August 17, 2013 So calling the idea of India being in danger because a leader X gets to the PM's post is not scare mongering and a personal attack on the poster?
saneindian Posted August 17, 2013 Posted August 17, 2013 DM, you track Modi related news so closely. Once in a while kuch positive bhi post kar diya kar, like the Aussies decide to grant him the visa :P
saneindian Posted August 17, 2013 Posted August 17, 2013 BTW on the term 'fekular' or 'Internet Hindu", hope you guys do know the other side gets termed as e-NREGA (Internet NREGA) Sipahis
randomGuy Posted August 17, 2013 Posted August 17, 2013 So calling the idea of India being in danger because a leader X gets to the PM's post is not scare mongering and a personal attack on the poster? The poster might have misconceived notions but we can't say that he/she is trying to influence our opinion by spreading fear. BTW on the term 'fekular' or 'Internet Hindu"' date=' hope you guys do know the other side gets termed as e-NREGA (Internet NREGA) Sipahis[/quote'] Even though most of us supposed Modi-Bhakts are neither religious nor feku, if some people get a kick by calling us 'fekular'/'internet hindu', I think we should let them have all the fun.:--D
adi B Posted August 17, 2013 Posted August 17, 2013 come on guys,no need to indulge in name calling..thoda bahut keh bhi diya to jane do,lets cut the cr@p
Sachin=GOD Posted August 17, 2013 Posted August 17, 2013 Another casualty of Internet Hindus. :yay: Nah. Its just that there's nothing new and we are "debating" the same points over and over again - getting boring now. Will post if something interesting happens....
surajmal Posted August 18, 2013 Posted August 18, 2013 An outsider in a private club Had Rahul Gandhi made the speech Narendra Modi did last week, he would have been hailed as India's shining white hope. Had Prime Minister Manmohan Singh made this speech from the Red Fort, instead of the dreary one he did, it may have swept away the sense of gloom and doom that permeates the economy. Had any other chief minister made the speech, us political pundit types would have sat up and taken notice. But, since it was Modi, he had to be reviled. What he said was unexceptionable. So he had to be attacked on other grounds. Why did he need to steal the Prime Minister's show by making this speech on Independence Day? The truth is that August 15 lost its magic long ago and has been reduced to ceremonial tokenism of the worst kind. We need political leaders to make meaningful speeches on this day, but that this idea should have occurred to Modi is intolerable. So much so that even his former mentor, the tireless Shri Lal Krishna Advani, made an immediate veiled attack on him by saying that Independence Day should be an occasion when political leaders should refrain from criticising each other. Why? Shri Advani then trotted off to Rashtrapati Bhavan and was seen cozying up to Sonia Gandhi at the President's Independence Day tea party. I found this particular detail interesting because of my conviction that the reason why us denizens of Lutyens's Delhi hate Modi so much is because he is a rank outsider. He comes from the wrong class and caste. He speaks little English. He dares to criticise the Dynasty we revere. And he exhibits a marked disdain for socialism and secularism. These two ideas are sacrosanct for those who have privileged access to that most exclusive of Indian private clubs: Lutyens's Delhi. Not everyone who reaches Parliament or high levels of political power has automatic access to the club. You have to come from an important political family and you have to have attended the right kind of English-medium school. The heirs of important political leaders have easy access for these reasons. Not every bureaucrat has access but those of the right class are life members. High-flying hacks are always welcome and quickly learn the rules. You have to express political opinions that are 'secular' and 'liberal' and you have to make sure that you do not say bad things about the Dynasty. This is considered especially bad form. This is why, despite the obviously deleterious effects of dynastic democracy, you see few stories on the subject in the media. Once you become a member of the club you find yourself invited on almost a daily basis to exclusive dinner parties in grand houses and fine hotels. At these events you will see politicians of different parties greet each other like old school friends, despite what they may have said to each other publicly that day in Parliament. And it is at these events that you will see famous media personalities included in conversations that are always 'off the record'. If you break the rules, as I love to, then you risk being abused on national television by Gandhi family devotees like the unpleasantly loudmouthed Mani Shankar Aiyar. But, that is another story and I am digressing. In a column of this size, it is really possible to make only one point and the one I want to make this week is that it is not what Modi says that gets him into trouble. It is not what he did in 2002 that evokes such shivers of revulsion in Lutyens's Delhi. Rajiv Gandhi remained totally acceptable after 1984. It is who Narendra Modi is that is the problem. He represents an India that has so far been carefully kept outside the closed doors of the Lutyens's Delhi club. A rough, angry, passionate new India that does not recognise private clubs or their rules and that threatens to tear down the walls that conceal the colonised elite, bred by the British Raj, that continues to control all the levers of political power in India. Incredible though this may sound, the entire machinery of the Congress party is currently geared to finding ways of keeping Modi out of national politics. This endeavour has the complicit support of senior BJP leaders and this is why you now so often hear the Congress party's spokesmen publicly praise Mr Advani as a 'moderate' when till just the other day he was considered the man responsible for demolishing the Babri Masjid. The truth is that everyone, perhaps even Mr Advani himself, knows that a BJP campaign led yet again by him will almost certainly keep this party in opposition for another five years. But, at least this would prevent Narendra Modi from smashing down the gates of Lutyens's Delhi. http://www.indianexpress.com/news/an-outsider-in-a-private-club/1156563/1 Like I keep saying, Central BJP is compromised.
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