The Dark Horse Posted August 27, 2012 Posted August 27, 2012 Baba has already played in the Ranjis, he hasn't had a perfect start to his first class career, hopefully he would do well in the future:two_thumbs_up:
deathmonger Posted August 27, 2012 Posted August 27, 2012 Baba has already played in the Ranjis' date=' he hasn't had a perfect start to his first class career, hopefully he would do well in the future:two_thumbs_up:[/quote'] baba harmeet unmukt all have played fc. and now with their names in limelight they'll play more.
vayuu1 Posted August 27, 2012 Posted August 27, 2012 Chand,aparajith ,mohsin syed,harmit,zol,smit,ravikant,sandeep sharma
vayuu1 Posted August 27, 2012 Posted August 27, 2012 The thing this time around is that ,it's our bowling most if the time that won us matches
Magneto Posted August 27, 2012 Posted August 27, 2012 Rather than internationals, I am more interested to see whether any of these guys can make a mark in the domestic season this year. That is, if they get a break. Only Unmukht Chand (Delhi) and Prasanth Chopra (Himachal Pradesh) are certainties in their team. For the rest: a) Baba Aparajith - Might get into the TN Ranji Trophy side, but will be under pressure to perform. The team is filled with performing/good batsmen. b) Vijay Zol - May not get into the Maharashtra team outright, since Maharashtra had a good Ranji season last year with all their batsmen performing well. c) Hanuma Vihari - Didn't have a great Ranji season for Andhra last year, and neither did he have a great U-19 WC as well. Will be back to club cricket. d) Akshdeep Nath - Will not get through anywhere in current form. May play a couple of List-As for UP if lucky. e) Smit Patel - Will surely not replace the Gujarat captain. May get a match or two as a batsman. f) Sandeep Sharma - Since he's already played for Punjab and has been a star at the U-19 WC campaign, will surely get into the team. And will need to do better than the last season (6 wickets @41 in 4 innings) to stick around. g) Kamal Passi - Will not get into the Punjab Ranji Team right now and will have to wait for his opportunity. h) Ravikant Singh - Will be in the fringes of the Bengal team but will find it difficult to break through. May get a List A match or two. i) Harmeet Singh - Will be competing with Iqbal Adbulla for a spot in the Mumbai Ranji team. Will probably get selected ahead of Abdulla as well and probably have a great Ranji season. He'd done pretty well for himself in the three matches he has played for Mumbai; no clue why he got dropped after that. I'lll be glad if most of these players can turn out to be top Ranji players by the time they are 22-23.
Lord Posted August 27, 2012 Posted August 27, 2012 these players need to move around to get more chances.Smit is better than captain Patel,he should play in other Ranji side that doesnt hv a good keeper.similarly Zol can move to Rajasthan or any side lacking batsmen.
phaedrus Posted August 27, 2012 Posted August 27, 2012 the success and failure of the first 2 batches should serve as a good road map for these kids. they hopefully will understand that the only way to make it in the indian team is ranji no matter how much spotlight they might have on them right now.
Magneto Posted August 27, 2012 Posted August 27, 2012 these players need to move around to get more chances.Smit is better than captain Patel' date='he should play in other Ranji side that doesnt hv a good keeper.similarly Zol can move to Rajasthan or any side lacking batsmen.[/quote'] Well, Smit has to prove that he is better than captain Patel. At 16, Patel's batting looked pretty good as well. He can move to Saurashtra maybe, but no one's gonna give him a spot on a platter if they have a wicketkeeper who's performed well last year. Zol should stick around Maharashtra only, there's a bit of politics happening in the Rajasthan team presently. He'll get his chance sooner or later. What they should not do is to move to a weak team for a spot. Performances never get noticed if you play for a weak team, since the team never goes beyond the first round.
jj_28 Posted August 27, 2012 Posted August 27, 2012 Harmeet Singh should be the backup for Ojha, Ashwin at least for the Test squad in home series He seems the best back up to those two India A is a must for Baba, Chand, Harmeet, Smit Patel but only Harmeet should be brought into the team and that's because we have a lack of quality spinners
rkt.india Posted August 27, 2012 Posted August 27, 2012 Zol is only 17. He will still play age group cricket. He will play next WC too. Ravikant 18 too will play U19 age group for 1 year. Most of these players will also play U22 Colonel CK Nayudu trophy where we can keep an eye on them.
Lord Posted August 27, 2012 Posted August 27, 2012 Zol is only 17. He will still play age group cricket. He will play next WC too. Ravikant 18 too will play U19 age group for 1 year. Most of these players will also play U22 Colonel CK Nayudu trophy where we can keep an eye on them. n ofcourse IPL
rkt.india Posted August 27, 2012 Posted August 27, 2012 Dont see any of them play IPL apart from Unmukt next year.
jind Posted August 27, 2012 Posted August 27, 2012 i) Harmeet Singh - Will be competing with Iqbal Adbulla for a spot in the Mumbai Ranji team. Will probably get selected ahead of Abdulla as well and probably have a great Ranji season. He'd done pretty well for himself in the three matches he has played for Mumbai; no clue why he got dropped after that. Mumbai already had Abdulla and Powar...both take tons of wickets in Ranji and can bat as well. Harmeet was given a few games so that he gets a bit of experience at that level. I'm sure he should make the team in the upcoming years.
Lord Posted August 27, 2012 Posted August 27, 2012 Dont see any of them play IPL apart from Unmukt next year. Harmeet n Baba will be defintely picked up.maybe Ravikant n Chopra too
jind Posted August 27, 2012 Posted August 27, 2012 Harmeet n Baba will be defintely picked up.maybe Ravikant n Chopra too I think Harmeet was already in the Deccan team after the last u19 WC...though didn't get a game. Tbh, wouldn't mind him sitting on the benches in the IPL :--D
Lord Posted August 27, 2012 Posted August 27, 2012 I think Harmeet was already in the Deccan team after the last u19 WC...though didn't get a game. Tbh' date=' wouldn't mind him sitting on the benches in the IPL :--D[/quote'] yeah.dont want a Gaylestorm on him.although batsmen can be included in IPL
jind Posted August 27, 2012 Posted August 27, 2012 Baba Aparajith has lots of potential. The guy can bat with classy shots, guides the ball easily when pulling or hooking, can bowl spin with a ditto Ashwin action, and excellent catcher in the slips as well. :two_thumbs_up: yeah.dont want a Gaylestorm on him.although batsmen can be included in IPL haha, that also but more importantly needs a couple of years of FC :--D
jairamesh Posted August 27, 2012 Posted August 27, 2012 With the advent of IPL, many of these youngsters would now know (well probably all) playing for India won't be the "be all and end all situation". Whilst the personal pressure and self-expectations on them to get into the India playing XI would have been immense, at least now it's abit less intense knowing there are more opportunities to either earn an excellent living, get massive media/public exposure, play with international stars etc. (9 IPL X 7 playing positions = 63 spots, and that excludes the other 100 spots in the IPL squads!). And also with resources BCCI have, they could send out more Indian XI tours, i.e. India B and India C. Surely it would cost peanuts for BCCI to run these tours during off season.
psrb4u Posted August 28, 2012 Posted August 28, 2012 We are 3rd time World Champions!!! Hurray!!!:haha:
rkt.india Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 The waiting game ItÃÔ been two years in the making, this Under-19 World Cup title win over Australia last Sunday. The young colts of Indian cricket were tested repeatedly through the tournament but they made a quick mental transition that, to quote the clich? separates the boys from the men. Captain Unmukt Chand, with a superlative unbeaten 111 in the final, added to his growing reputation as a batting talent in domestic circles and enhanced it with a rare combine of the three Ts cricketers are expected to possessÃÕalent, technique and temperament. But, apart from Chand, there were important performances at different stages of the tournament from Harmeet Singh, Baba Aparajith, Smit Patel and Sandeep Sharma. Their graduation in junior cricket is now complete. The party, given Indian cricket and its hype machinery, may not yet be over, but what lies ahead for some of these youngsters is a stage in their respective careers where the grind of domestic cricket could get lonely, tiring, yet inherently exciting, given the bigger rewards that lie ahead, Indian Premier League (IPL) contracts notwithstanding. The gap between age-group cricket and domestic cricket is wide, and with the challenge of multiple formats (mainly four-day cricket), the cricketers will be required to bowl against better quality batsmen (or Ranji Trophy veterans) and excel in different conditions. The ultimate test of a domestic cricketer is his motivationÃÕhat unflinching desire to improve as a performer with every game, every season, and the thirst for excellence, a recognition of which is the elusive and coveted India cap. Tough road ahead As always with these Under-19 teams, a majority become anonymous within a couple of years owing to lack of opportunities or poor performances. Going by the performances in this edition, the three likely candidates for Indian colours could be Chand (Delhi), Aparajith (Tamil Nadu) and Harmeet Singh (Mumbai)ÃÂll of whom had represented their states before the World Cup. Praveen Amre, former Mumbai and India A coach (and a former chairman of the junior selection committee), reckons that the real journey for some of these cricketers begins now. He says, ŵhey must realize that they have to work harder for a minimum of five-six years, perform consistently for their states to make their mark as future India cricketers. Amre warns against fast-tracking some of these cricketers, as experts like Ian Chappell have called for. ŵhere is a process that everyone should go through because if some of these people fail at the highest level, the support system at our domestic level isnÃÕ that strong. They will be labelled as failures overnight and the player himself might not know how to deal with it since heÃÔ young. It is important that we give them time to develop and mature as cricketers, he says. Former India opener Aakash Chopra agrees: Ūt would be foolish to bypass existing structures in domestic cricket and move them into senior levels (A team/national team) and in doing so, it sends a wrong message to other professionals. We have to be patient with some of these players and see what theyÃÓe made up of before we even consider them for the national set-up. Up and away ChandÃÔ gradual rise as a domestic cricketer has been impressive. His 151 for Delhi against Railways on a green wicket at the Roshanara Club Ground, New Delhi (2010-11), in only his fourth game for the state is still spoken about in glowing terms. But his impetuous, at times poor, shot selection let him down repeatedly. On ChandÃÔ progress, his IPL franchise colleague and former India all-rounder Ajit Agarkar says: Å©is improvement has been steady. I played against him in his debut season for Delhi (a couple of seasons back) and even got him out. From whatever I saw on television on Sunday, it was a special innings. To have that sort of a temperament in a final as a captain, that too in Australia, says a lot about his improving maturity as a cricketer. In Delhi cricketing circles, Chand has been known as a prodigious talent right from his schooldays. Having watched him closely as an opposition coach, Amre reckons his improvement is largely due to a newfound sense of self-belief and confidence. Å©eÃÔ more confident, and having seen him play, he always had the shots and the attitude to succeed, says Amre. Chand will be part of the India A team which tours New Zealand around end-September. Parallel to ChandÃÔ rise in Delhi is Harmeet SinghÃÔ growing reputation as a fine left-arm spinner. Singh, who made his debut for the Mumbai Ranji Trophy team in 2009-10, got a haul of 17 wickets in his first three games before being sent back to age-group cricket for reasons ranging from indiscipline to the demands of team composition. According to Mumbai off-spinner Ramesh Powar, SinghÃÔ development as a spinner is outstanding. Ÿe keep talking to him whenever we get the chance. As a bowler, heÃÔ got a lot of potential and he believes in getting batsmen out by flighting the ball in the air, says Powar. Amre, who was coach when Singh made his debut for Mumbai, says: Å©e is worth keeping an eye on. Unfortunately, there are established players in the Mumbai starting XI now (two left-arm spinners), but if heÃÔ patient, he will get his opportunities. Chopra, who has played against Singh as a batsman, reckons he will have to wait. Ū played against Harmeet last year in one of the pre-season tournaments, and I thought he was impressive in terms of approach. ItÃÔ important that he grabs whatever opportunities he gets with Mumbai and that will help him immensely going forward. The rather interesting problem with Mumbai cricket today is the plethora of left-arm spinnersÃØith the likes of Iqbal Abdulla and Ankeet Chavan already in the first XIÃÂnd Singh may have limited opportunities. State calls Baba AparajithÃÔ consistent rise in junior cricketing circles has been phenomenal. A regular member of the Tamil Nadu Under-19 side, and subsequently the national junior side, heÃÔ an interesting all-round prospectàmore accomplished batsman with competent bowling abilities. For a batsman who used to struggle against the short ball, he looked more than comfortable in Australia, a technical deficiency heÃÔ overcome in the last 12 months. Ū am really impressed with Aparajith, says Chopra, adding, Å©e looks really organized as a batsman, knows his shots and has a good defence. Also, he can contribute with the ball if needed. The party for some of these blokes, like it or not, might end as soon as the domestic season starts. Their immediate objective? To break into their respective state teams (except for those already established) and improve further. They need the following couple of years to establish themselves in their sides, then consistent performances may lead to a call-up to the national side. ÉõÉõ U-19 players who made it to the senior team 1988: Nayan Mongia, Venkatapathy Raju, Narendra Hirwani 1998: Virender Sehwag, Harbhajan Singh, Amit Bhandari, Laxmi Ratan Shukla 2000: Yuvraj Singh, Mohammad Kaif, Ajay Ratra, Venugopal Rao, Reetinder Singh Sodhi 2002: Irfan Pathan, Parthiv Patel 2004: Robin Uthappa, Suresh Raina, Shikhar Dhawan, Dinesh Karthik, R.P. Singh 2006: Rohit Sharma, Cheteshwar Pujara, Piyush Chawla 2008: Virat Kohli, Ravindra Jadeja, Abhinav Mukund, Saurabh Tiwary 2010: Jaydev Unadkat http://www.livemint.com/2012/08/29203225/The-waiting-game.html?h=B
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